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Leftists are even making the same excuses for this. | IN HISTORY, THREE GROUPS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THOUGHT; THE COMMUNIST PARTY, THE NAZIS, AND THE RADICAL LEFT; JUST SAYIN’ | image tagged in michael scott,memes,freedom of speech,leftists,communism,neo-nazis | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
3,062 views 74 upvotes Made by Funguy. 4 years ago in politics
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3 ups, 4y,
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Yeet this is true...
1 up, 4y,
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Ikr
1 up, 4y
:)
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3 ups, 4y
and they call us conservatives nazis and fasicts... i wonder which theory they supported...
6 ups, 4y,
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1984 George Orwell quote | image tagged in 1984 george orwell quote | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
For Orwell, freedom of speech was the freedom to speak the truth specifically.

He would be surprised to hear his legacy is being invoked these days to defend the airing of nonsense and conspiracy theories.

The tyrannical government of 1984 was illegitimate because it was based on lies: War is peace, freedom is slavery, etc., while the *truth* was censored.

These observations need to inform any nuanced discussion of these issues.
2 ups, 4y,
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Spot the difference | image tagged in spot the difference | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
The OM was referencing George WASHINGTON.

How do you make the leap to George ORWELL?
2 ups, 4y,
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Interesting Presidential opinions on freedom of the press through the years | image tagged in icarly interesting,freedom,freedom of the press,freedom of speech,first amendment,presidents | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
https://medium.com/the-1000-day-mfa/like-sheep-to-the-slaughter-87ec806af1d8

More famous quotes on free speech

Guess what Donald Trump thinks about it?
2 ups, 4y
That doesn't answer the question - unless, of course, everything circles back to Trump because it's all his fault.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
TR’s statement on press freedom; not referenced in the excerpt I posted but it would slot right in
2 ups, 4y
That doesn't answer the question - unless, of course, everything circles back to Trump because it's all his fault.

Original meme had nothing to do with Trump.
1 up, 4y,
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OP posted a George Washington quote on free speech, but the overall topic of the meme is free speech.

It turns out many people throughout history have had something to say about this subject

Let’s look at some more quotes!
2 ups, 4y
That doesn't answer the question.
2 ups, 4y
Yeah, but who decides what truth is? If you have a group of selfish politicians telling us what absolute truth is (which by the way the guy you quoted said objective truth is fading out of the world), that is really dangerous. They’ll probably tell us “their truth” (to say it in those terms; truth is not personal) and if we don’t agree, then we get screwed over.
I hated growing up because I never felt like I had a chance to think and decide things for myself, so I felt rebellious for a while, but checking out the left, it was so ridiculous that I actually put anger aside to view it for what it was. Anger makes people deaf and blind, but for me, it was too much despite my rage. And to be honest, many things I was angry about are things the left does, but they do it in a much sneakier way. You can’t think for yourself around leftists. You believe what they believe, or else. Never be personal. Learned that the hard way. Everything I hated about childhood is prevalent in the left and not the right. This is why I am so confused why rebellious people lean left. It makes no sense.
3 ups, 4y,
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He would also be incredibly surprised that so many moronic conservatives co-opt him as their own, when in reality he was an ardent and avowed democratic socialist.
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3 ups, 4y,
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He was writing about a Communist state. At the time Communism was the biggest evil in the world. People hadn't fully realized that there is not enough difference between Communism and Socialism. In fact Socialism is the gateway into Communism. The central planners first trying to push people on strong suggestion (Socialism) then when that doesn't work then they use force (Communism).

The real scary thing is how many of the youth in America have completely the Communist lie. Antifa and BLM (the organization not the movement) are pro Communist groups.
2 ups, 4y
Sadly, this is the case. Marxism is very appealing to young people. It describes a lot of people’s situations. But it is a joke in fixing inequality or fixing any of the problems it claims to solve. It hurts more than it heals. I read biographies from survivors of these governments, and they all start the same way, a trajectory America is on.
2 ups, 4y,
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A communist state is an oxymoron but go off.

And are you engaging at all with the point that Orwell was literally a socialist, or no?
2 ups, 4y
"And are you engaging at all with the point that Orwell was literally a socialist, or no?" - The first word of TOAN's reply was "He" - referring to Orwell. Read and comprehend, don't get triggered.

Antifa & BLM are oxymorons. Antifa uses fascist tactics. BLM doesn't care about the black individual lives, they only care about getting attention, power, and money.
2 ups, 4y,
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I always knew he was a socialist.
1 up, 4y,
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Good for you.
2 ups, 4y
I was actually just talking about him a few days ago in a quote that I thought made no sense.
2 ups, 4y
I do not co-opt him as a conservative, since I originally know him from uttering the modern zeitgeist saying “Objective truth is fading out of the world.” I don’t agree with him on many things.
5 ups, 4y,
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Indeed

And when we say “surprised” or “incredibly surprised,” we really mean “shocked and mortified”

As would most figures in history when conservatives butcher their quotes
1 up, 4y
Well, this moronic conservative is in full opposition to fascism and totalitarianism and knows that GO was also in opposition to that, even if he was a socialist.

The message of his books, especially Animal Farm and 1984, is that absolute power corrupts absolutely, that the sheep will always do what they're told, and that one really needs to think really hard about giving up individual liberties just because someone "in charge" tells you that it's for the collective good.
4 ups, 4y,
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Yeah fr they do the same exact thing to people like MLK jr. too, another democratic socialist.
4 ups, 4y
Indeed.
5 ups, 4y
1 up, 4y
Right in the Face with that one, Chief ! #chad
0 ups, 3y,
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You forgot the alt-right. they tried it as well. Dont deny it. The Nazis were part of the right
0 ups, 3y
I included the Nazis in the list, and the Nazis were not rightist. Matter of fact, Germany was affected by communism before Hitler even came to power. And Hitler himself looked up to some Marxists. And Mussolini was inspired by Lenin. These were not rightists and the similarity between Hitler, Stalin and Zedong (two communist dictators who both killed more people by themselves than Hitler did) is very very pronounced.
Hitler, like communists, had a special hatred for religion, Jews (Marx and Engels hated Jews, and like Hitler, Marx was half Jewish himself), black people, any form of government that he didn’t run, etc.
Matter of fact, for any black people reading this, Marx once called his daughter Laura’s Cuban husband a gorilla because of the “Negro blood in his veins.” This is the guy so many people look up to now. We denounce Hitler as the evilest person of all time, and that is very justifiable considering the many things he did, but Marx may have been even worse and yet we don’t talk about him or any communist dictators the same way.
3 ups, 4y,
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deleting a Nazi comment on a site is nothing like how the Nazis censored. Your "free speech" supports people freely saying 6mwe or burn the gays.
2 ups, 4y,
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“deleting a Nazi comment on a site”
I don’t even know what you’re talking about. I’m not complaining about imgflip if you’re thinking that. And Nazis taught that their opposition was all evil, just like the left has.

I don’t even know what 6mwe is, and I have never known any person that believes gays should be burned. Keep in mind I was raised in church, which is supposed to be the most hostile to them.
2 ups, 4y
Sadly, I googled that phrase that starts with the number 6 and it is a thing. Of course, normal people don't know what it means, only those on the hateful fringe do.

Much like the left's favorite phrase ACAB.
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7 ups, 4y,
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Didn't we have an 8 year war in the 1770's against some who was none of those three?
10 ups, 4y,
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Who look at that, someone missing the point on purpose :)
7 ups, 4y
Not uncommon for Ann tit he sis
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4 ups, 4y,
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Pot meet kettle
7 ups, 4y
Ok ok, It wasn't on purpose.
5 ups, 4y
I don't get your point thesis. What does the war for independence have to do with England not being one of those three? Why do you think making the point you made, weakens or counters the message in the OP's meme?
2 ups, 4y,
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Which side were you on? Did you volunteer or were you drafted?
1 up, 3y
LOL
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6 ups, 4y,
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Lame
0 ups, 3y
how?
5 ups, 4y,
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"We ought to come up with legislation, that if you burn the American flag, you go to jail for one year. One year." -famously pro 1st amendment Donald Trump
5 ups, 4y,
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Conservatives seem to have a real blind spot when it comes to exercising first amendment rights as they pertain to the American flag. Definitely a "yeah, but..." situation, which makes no sense to me.

The flag stands for the absolute right to exercise freedom of speech, and if someone chooses to burn it, or defile it in any way, thereby exercising that right, I think it only strengthens the flag and its symbolic representation of free speech, not weaken it in any way.

I get it. I don't like to see it myself, but I recognize it for what it is. Freedom of speech. The very thing the flag represents. So it must be some kind of visceral reaction they're having. One which turns off their ability to be objective and reason. Too bad the intellect can't take over and let them realize what is really going on.

All this coming from a Trump supporter, btw.
1 up, 4y
Totally agree, all that the flag burners are looking for is a reaction (much like some people on this site).

I will not give them that reaction, and have not had the opportunity, but I would not back down from the challenge of preventing match from meeting flag if I could help it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0j1CpbC1t4
2 ups, 4y
Based and free speech-pilled.
3 ups, 4y
I do not entirely agree with him saying that, but at the same time I do not like people disrespecting the country. If you don’t like this country, you are free to leave. In a socialist or communist country, you are either 1) brainwashed into believing you are in the best country, and/or 2) kept from ever leaving (as is the case in North Korea).
8 ups, 4y,
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2 ups, 4y
OM even had to put it in there twice LMFAO!
7 ups, 4y
3 ups, 4y,
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Sure the church can be this way (you can’t go in and scream the f word around young ears during a sermon or after it), but the church is just like capitalism in that you are free to join and leave any one you please (unless you have a corrupt one). I think you generalize the church too much. I come from a family that has been in different churches with entirely different mindsets, and both of my parents were raised in different cults. Matter of fact, my father was in a church where the pastor shut his church down because he realized his preaching was unBiblical. My mother grew up in one cult and joined another when she grew up. One church they were in when I was born, for example, was dealing with a mass exodus (and these people, being a part of the prosperity gospel, were financially greedy [which, by the way, is a life path Jesus spoke out against]) so they created a covenant to keep people in the church. Note that this church does not describe all churches. The church I am in now has a covenant, but it is not meant to bind you to keep going to the church for life, or anything like that at all. And the church i used to go to had a mass exodus, and they didn’t do this because they weren’t greedy like that.

What I am saying is this:
1) not all churches are the same. If one church bonds with the mafia, it doesn’t make all churches mafia members. There is actually a church in Florida that rejoices over disasters like Irma, Covid, etc. I don’t know what Bible they’re reading, because there’s nothing in the Bible that suggests this behavior and many Christians want nothing to do with such beliefs.
2) The worst thing that can happen in a church is you leaving it and finding another one. The things communists, Nazis, and the left have done for holding unpopular opinions include firing people from jobs, ruining people’s careers, and harassing people. The communists and Nazis threatened lives for disagreement. The left is not capable of that now, but if they want to shut you up and affect your life for the worse just for simply not agreeing with them, people like that end up silencing those who oppose them in vicious ways.
1 up, 4y,
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"not all churches are the same."

THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME WITH LEFTISTS
2 ups, 4y
I know the difference between the left and the radical left. John McWhorter is a black Trump-hating atheist leftist who thinks the radical left is ridiculous. And he sees the similarity between the radical left and communism. He knows we’re being manipulated into rage with these police brutality cases. He mentioned that the news ignores police shootings if the victims aren’t black. He has showcased annoyance with persecution in colleges for not falling in line. The problem is he is one of a very select few leftists I’ve seen that condemns this behavior. Many support it. And every time AOC says something ridiculous, she has a horde of people rushing to her defense and pushing whatever she says.
Whereas many Christians are peaceful and do not support violent Christians, which are not the majority.
1 up, 4y
And the same with the police. But leftists on this website (in reference to the police) love to bring up that saying: a rotten apple can spoil the bunch.
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