Just keep it the way it is or only a really small raise.

Lol replaced by machines or illegal workers!

Democrat logic at work.

Thats why I used to post letters through the door offering to work a little under and for cash in hand.
Was literally never out of work
I always loved minimum wage hikes

Thank you for your service!

Here’s a crazy idea. If paying your employees a living wage is too expensive for your company, maybe you as the CEO should cut into your own pay to offset those costs.

Maybe if they make themselves more valuable to me I’ll pay them more.

nobody does it like Bernie

Poor Bernie, screwed twice by the DNC, never actually got around to saying what this meme says.

In other news (July 19, 2019):
Bernie Sanders’ campaign workers complaining, fleeing over ‘poverty wages’: report

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-workers-complaining-fleeing-over-poverty-wages-report

Presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders has pledged to American workers that he would institute a $15-per-hour minimum wage if he wins the White House in 2020.

But unionized workers on Sanders’ own campaign say they wish he would start now -- by paying a higher wage to them.
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This is what makes Universal Basic Income such an obvious choice.

As employers save money by eliminating labor via efficiency and automation, ex-workers still have a floor to stand on keeping them out of poverty.

Those former workers are then free to innovate, and bring new assets to market, instead of worrying about survival.

Everyone wins.

You ever been to Cuba? You have doctors driving taxis to survive. Your ideology fails when it hits reality. Oh boy I have been reading the responses you been getting here and you been getting schooled son. Let me guess you voted for Biden for the promise of free stuff. Having regrets yet? Because you are getting destroyed here, they shut your mouth good. XD

Where is the government going to get all of that money to give a basic minimum income? The government does not have anything that it does not steal or borrow. It does not produce wealth, it only destroys it.

The rich are not an endless source of income. If you steal all of their money they are not going to magically come up with more money. Not to mention what motivation do they have to work and produce more wealth when all of it is just going to be stolen from them?

Once the rich have all been tapped out then the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. That is when you get mass starvation just like Venezuela is going through right now.

If those who think Socialism is so awesome would just take a look at other Socialist nations then maybe, just maybe, they would realize the horrors of Socialism.

Everyone loses.

What? Naaaaaah, the U.S.S.R was a booming economic success!!!!

/s

LOL

and then the country falls apart because there are no more grocery stores, clothing stores, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, mailmen, garbagemen, drivers, etc.

In theory, a universal basic income would be a floor covering basic necessities, and would not be means tested. Anything earned would be extra. So people would still work, because they would want luxuries that the ubi wouldn't cover, but would not have to accept a low wage as a matter of survival, so pay should represent the actual value of work, rather than the need to survive.

I like the concept, but have doubts about whether or not we could set it at a rate that would cover necessities and not create inflation (that would make it not cover necessities). Money has no actual value. It's value is entirely perceived. Like any other commodity, the less scarce it is (in circulation, not existence), the less value. I'm not convinced it's supply and demand can be adequately manipulated.

People aren't going to stop working because their basic needs are covered.

People have hopes, dreams, desires beyond basic necessity.

Unless you're implying everyone is some kind of slave, which I disagree with

LOL if there are people barely willing to work for money, what makes you think they're gonna work backbreaking jobs for this fairydust you call "hopes, dreams, desires." the only way you're going to get enough people to work is by force. that's slavery.

LOL

Good to know there are people still fighting for slavery.

Worst of luck to you

you didn't read that comment at all, did you?

DreadTroi. Are you serious? You're as clueless about human nature as Karl Marx was. If all of my basic needs were met then I know for a fact that I would quit working the very next day. And I like my job.

Why do you think there are so many welfare cheats in the country? They would rather do whatever they want rather than get a job.

There may be about 1% who will still go to their jobs just because they are workaholics.

And this is when Socialism turns to Communism. Just to meet those basic needs the government will have to force people back to work. Then comes quotas that they have to fulfill. Then comes the eugenics that says the government has the right to kill people who are not providing enough value to society.

This is the flaw that Marx never considered and fortunately (or unfortunately) we have several countries to look at who operate or have operated exactly like this.

Socialism is pure evil.

To be fair, I don’t think capitalism, socialism, or communism puts value onto a human life unless it contributes in some way. It is the nature of the persuasion necessary that is deemed acceptable or more morally reliable than the other two that continues to contribute the nature of debate.

I think a socio-capitalist economy, which is what we essentially have, functions just fine as is with one minor flaw. Inflation. As resources become more rare, they become more expensive regardless of the minimum wage. Failing to raise minimum wage won’t stop inflation, and people bring unable to pay for the cost of living is a serious issue that need be addressed.

One solution is to raise minimum wage, which is not a long term solution and will eventually become a problem regardless of how high or how often the minimum is raised.

Another solution is to end the income tax, but even this is a temporary solution as well as, again, escalation will continue to persist.

I remain on the fence and dubious of either solution but it is definitely true that poverty is increasingly becoming a problem to the point that is unavoidable to ignore a temporary solution. And between the two options, the more temporary and less radical of the two solutions is actually raising the minimum wage.

The minimum wage is an abomination. The government should have never taken that much power away from the people. Wages should always be determined by the market, not the government. The skill level of the person is his or her value to a business. The individual is responsible for acquiring enough skill, knowledge and experience to earn a higher wage.

Also if you want a higher wage and you have the skills to earn a higher wage then you should not apply for jobs sweeping the floor. Basically YOU are responsible for your living wage, not the government and not the business you are working for.

I am all for ending income tax. Our present income tax nightmare was forced on us by Woodrow Wilson in 1913. Prior to that we had no permanent income tax (there was a temporary income tax after the civil war). The biggest cause of our economic problems is the income tax.

Taxation is theft. It is not our patriotic duty to pay taxes. Our patriotic duty is to live free. That is what this nation was founded on. The income tax should be abolished permanently. That would also require reducing the number of federal employees by about 90 - 95%.

The income tax was forced on us to control us. It had much less to do with funding the government and more to do with controlling the people. This was the beginning of Socialism in America.

Capitalism is just the free exchange of goods and/or services. The value of human life is inherent in Capitalism. Our culture has been infested with far too much Marxism over the last century to where it has jaded people about the value of a free market. The market is driven by the consumer. With the consumer there is no market. If the consumer is not free to purchase what they want there is no market.

Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Nazism are not consumer based markets. They are labor based and labor serves the collective. The ruling elites determine what is best for the collective and keep most of the products of labor for themselves. The individual is expendable and is judged on his or her value to the ruling elites.

The freer the market the more prosperous everyone (not just the rich) become. The more controlled the market is the more poverty increases and only the super rich and politicians prosper. The latter is what we are seeing now. A social-capitalist economy is a controlled market. It only serves the power elites. Socio-capitalism is what our founding father rejected in England. Back then it was called Mercantilism. It is more appropriately called today Corporatism. Capitalism always takes a back seat in this type of economy. Corporatism has given rise to a newer type of economy called Corporate Socialism. Corporate Socialism is Fascism lite. It is not full blown Fascism but it is fastly on its way to becoming Fascism.

Inflation can be caused by scarcity of resources but the inflation we are seeing is caused of the devaluation of the dollar. The dollar is just worth less than it was 10 years ago and less than it was 20 years ago and so on. This was caused by two things. Nixon taking us off the gold standard (big mistake). Ironically he did this because he was trying to fight inflation. That inflation was caused by the Keynesianism of the FDR era. The other thing started at the end of the Bush administration and was kicked into high gear under Obama. Quantitative easing. They printing of more and more dollars to "help" prevent a crash. From what I understand they started doing that again to "fix" the economy from the devastation of the pandemic.

The problem in all of the above is that people always thing we need to do "something". A market left alone will always right itself. The economy is a force of nature that should never be tampered with. Tampering with it has always caused hardships on the people.

Not a lot of solutions there. Mostly complaining about a system that’s been the way it has for a hundred years. It’s too late to rip off the band-aid. This will take a delicate incision, not someone coming in and ripping it off the festering wound manually. Part of the reason why Communism followed was due to the lack of discipline of the revolutionaries. They were sick, starving, and their police state was quicker to put them to death than work. The power vacuum that followed from violent and uncoordinated revolution will always be a messy governmental establishment. You only need to take a look at some European history to see this vicious cycle. Of the people desperately ripping the establishment up and usually replacing it with something worse. Lasting progress comes from educated leaders who understand the needs and wants of the people who they represent.

Not complaints. I was explaining how the markets work. Capitalism is NOT the problem. Corporatism and Corporate Socialism is. That is what is putting the strangle hold on the economy and making the cost of living unbearable. To do that all Democrats and most Republicans need to be thrown out of office and replaced with Libertarians or Constitutionalists.

The solution is the end the income tax. Reduce the number of federal government employees by 95%. Repeal nearly every Progressive law that has been passed in the last century that has to do with controlling the markets.

The market was never truly free even at the founding of this nation. The only way the market can be completely free is total anarchy. However, even with the small number of constraints on the market out our founding and pretty much up until the Progressive Era of the early 20th century, America was much more prosperous than it is now. We were far better educated, the cost of living was very low and everyone was prospering. The the 20th century happened and Marxism crept into our society and begin to drag us down to the ground.

Tru dat. :)

Nobody will work if their needs are covered. UBI doesn't understand this concept, which is why it cannot work anywhere outside of a fairytale.