COVID Truth

4np6r7.jpg (click to show) Leftists must beat their head against a tree.

Uh, we’re not all surgeons. Even surgeons don’t wear their masks day in and day out.

Now they do.

What anti-maskers fail to understand is, even if they don’t get COVID, or don’t get it bad enough to end up in a hospital, there may come a day when they need to be treated in an ICU due to an accident or something. They’ll be wishing everyone wore a mask in public when they can’t get treated because all the ICU bed are full of COVID patients.

Beds are full even in states where almost everyone wears a mask. Saying that wearing masks alone will fix the problem is not true because many hospitals operate at 60% or so capacity even in normal times. Masks are already worn enough to where we can't decrease bed usage by 40%, because there simply aren't enough people who don't comply with the mandates to make up for that discrepancy.

What we need to a constant awareness campaign run across the country that shows people the benefits of wearing a mask in public places or businesses that require them. Someone who is self-motivated to do something is far more effective than someone who knows the threats to enforce mandates are empty and therefore ignores them. We also need a better solution to the bed shortage in hospitals. Since I'm not a logistics expert I really don't have a solution other than, "Build emergency hospital units". I have no clue if that would be effective.

Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that wearing a mask alone would fix the problem. But those who think they don’t need to wear them aren’t helping anything.
It’s sad that there are so many people who can’t understand it unless they suffer directly from it.

Here's my opinion: If someone with a legitimate claim asks me to wear a mask in the proper setting I will do it. I'm proud to help keep others safe, and the good double-weave buffs (with a 96% droplet retention rate, as proven by the University of Georgia) are so comfortable it's not even a big sacrifice on my part. The proper environment is, in my opinion, anywhere where someone may be forced into close contact with me despite not wanting to do so. Work, stores, public restrooms, etc are all part of this, and as far as I'm concerned wearing a mask there is perfectly reasonable.

I draw the line when people try to force or shame others into wearing a mask in places where the only potential risk is to people who choose to be in that environment. This is largely private and outdoor settings. I don't care what you do in your home, and I don't care what you do if you're on a hike (breathing hard and wearing a mask is dangerous, don't do it lol), just be responsible and tell your boss and others you may have been exposed. They'll give you time off work, and if you have to go somewhere then wear your mask in public.

I've been called a fascist for holding this view at least three separate times now, and it's getting tiring... :(

Just have to say this- I breath hard and wear a mask all the time, I exercise with a mask on, and I have asthma. I don’t suffer any ill effects from the mask

I ski and snowboard quite often, and wear my double-weave buff the entire time. It gets very strenuous, but I've not once felt like I have major breathing difficulties either.

My point was some people are wired differently than you and I and psychologically feel claustrophobic if they're breathing hard and their face is covered, or if they're wearing a really heavy mask then breathing could legitimately be impacted. It'd be cruel to require them to wear a mask while working out.

It used to feel like I was having trouble breathing with a mask on, but studies show it doesn’t impact breathing. But after I had to wear one for 24 hours straight (Back when my area was super Smokey from all of the 2020 fires) I wore the mask for smoke and then for 6 hours on a plane, after that I didn’t seem to have any more trouble breathing. Even with heavy masks.

This is just me being curious, but why can I not reply to the comment you just left on my original response to this below? I only see the 'flag' option.

Regardless, all I'd say is that the WHO does caution against it, but all power to you if you can do it! I've got multiple friends who legitimately start to panic if they have to wear it too long. :(

When a comment chain gets to red for a second time reply goes off

I use a brand called Happy Mask that doesn’t go close to your face, and it has been tested and is almost as good as an N-95, they are way less constricting than normal masks and the ear loops are adjustable. I hate normal masks, I would wear them but I will avoid them. And if there is an actual phycological reason than I can understand.

(Sorry I’m a walking talking Happy Mask add, I crabbing love Happy Masks)

I didn’t know there were places where people are expected to wear a mask in their own home (unless they or someone else living there has covid) or while hiking or other outdoor activities. I’ve only heard of being expected to wear them in public, indoor places.

It was a Pennsylvania official who said that people were now 'required' to wear masks in their homes if they had people in who weren't immediate family members. While an isolated incident, I was really freaked out that people think that's somehow going to help us fight COVID at all.

In most reasonable places it is just indoor public places.

Has anyone bothered to run the numbers on this big percentage of survivors that keeps getting thrown around? Considering how many people there are in the US, how many are expected to die? Anyone?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/10/06/what-is-your-risk-of-dying-from-covid-19/?sh=3925aea56159

Here's a breakdown of how the death rate has affected our demographics and the odds of survival for major age groups. It seems to back up what a lot of people have been saying already: isolate the elderly and individuals at risk and we can otherwise afford to avoid costly shutdowns.

Assuming then that everyone in the U.S got it, I think we'd see massive fatalities among old and high-risk groups, but negligible impacts to virtually everyone else. Given 37% of deaths have been in nursing homes alone* then I'm inclined to think we'd see a few hundred thousand more at least, but not more than that.

Obviously I'm not a statistician or a medical professional, but it's at least a basic answer to your question.

*source for the percentage: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html#:~:text=About%2037%25%20of%20U.S.%20Coronavirus%20Deaths%20Are%20

Everyone is obviously not wearing a mask when they should. Contract tracers are finding many are getting sick eating at restaurants, even outdoors. How many rallies did Trump have with no one wearing masks? It wasn't until the Woodward tapes came out where Trump was admitting in February how bad the virus was did his followers even start wearing them.

But it's not just masks ... social distancing helps, washing your hands / sanitizing, masking, staying home/self-isolating to curb the spread (especially if you're experiencing symptoms), all of these things together helps.

It's almost like restaurants allow people to take off masks when they eat. Given we see that droplets can then spread almost 30 feet and can linger for up to 14 minutes (plenty of time and space to hit another table or another hiker on the trail).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/30/coronavirus-social-distancing-mit-researcher-lydia-bourouiba-27-feet/5091526002/

Obviously we could shut down again to prevent that....oh wait, Congress isn't giving us the money. Riiiight.

"It wasn't until the Woodward tapes came out where Trump was admitting in February how bad the virus was did his followers even start wearing them."
Don't make stupid blanket statements. There are millions of people who voted for Trump but are also responsible enough to wear a mask in public when required. The ones who feel most strongly about it, and therefore those who most likely won't wear a mask, are the ones who frequent his rallies. While his rallies were huge, they represented a tiny fraction of those who voted for him in 2016 and this year.

I think when Jesus said "forgive them, Father, they know not what they do," he was talking about people like Republicans. Y'all are callous AF.

Ah yes, and then they like to complain about that 1%
yet they're the ones destroying small businesses

Then your chances fall to 79.75. Even lower if you have any underline health conditions.

What many people don't seem to understand is it isn't about wearing the mask or not, it's about the government telling us we have to and if we don't, we'll be in trouble. It is t the government's job to force anything on the people.

I would bet a high sum of money that if the government told us we don't have to wear masks and that it was up to us, but they highly recommend it, there wouldn't be as many not wearing the mask.

So if the law against drunk driving was just a loose guideline, there'd be less dumbass drunk people on the road? How stupid is that? You don't like laws all of a sudden? Trumpers hate rules? People are dying. Millions could die in the US alone. I just don't understand WTF is wrong with people?

"People are dying. Millions could die in the US alone. I just don't understand WTF is wrong with people?"

People are dying every day from many different viruses and diseases and many other things like drug abuse (drugs that the governors on the west coast allow to be pushed into their communities, btw, and ignore the problems) and yet nothing is being done about that. But suddenly we get a virus that has a 99.5% survival rate and we have to cancel the holidays and slap muzzles (masks) on our faces?

F**k that and f**k you for trying to condemn anyone and trying to make them feel bad for not confirming to fascist rules set by our fascist government.

Don't you know the libf**k's greatest joy in life is dictating what other's can and can't do?

I never thought they'd have the ball to try to dictate who you can have in your own home tho.

Los Angeles is turning off the power and water to homes that have large gatherings. Welcome to China. https://www.wwaytv3.com/2020/11/25/los-angeles-to-shut-off-water-and-power-to-homes-hosting-large-parties-or-gatherings/

the other viruses aren't part of a f**king pandemic

Straight facts bro good job 👏

They're only facts if you omit a certain high risk age group.

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That's the plan

This is absolutely absurd. Fact check the next time you post a meme. People have a 4% chance of dying from COVID and only 500k small businesses have been lost out of the 30 million in the country. Wow.

1.6 million worldwide, that's only in the US

Should’ve specified, my bad.

I didn't know people on the politics stream had the capacity to respond decently

Ikr

Your all idiots, its different per state, and some states have their businesses open, some don't. You got to remember this in Iowa it is %84 chance of living (I might be wrong), and Illinois is %94. This isn't funny, please stop gambling your life.

The strain of COVID-19 is all the same, it is different everywhere. It has the same lethality rate as any other case of COVID. It doesn't change solely on "Oh look it's in Kansas, and now in Minnesota" it doesn't change, it is the management of the virus.

Not true. The virus changes, we have multiple strains now.

That doesn't make sense. IDK, maybe i just misunderstood you.

I thought that some states have handled COVID better than other states, and they have a lower percentage. You are less likely to get covid from Maryland (Although their cases are rising) for example, then Florida or Texas.

Please stop driving, stop smoking, stop extra martial sex, stop eating junk food, stop alcohol consumption, stop....

ok

But when you're gambling with other peoples' lives, that's where it becomes a problem. Smoking is already banned in many places. Drinking and driving is also against the law. If Pence had his way, he'd probably ban extra-marital sex also.

B b b but masks and social distancing are foolproof! How in the world can someone doing that get affected???

All potential illness exposure gambles with someone’s life. So why were we not masked up decades ago?

Your all idiots, its different per state

Irony is really ironic sometimes.