what good does destroying fire trucks do to racial justice? They're just doing their job, putting out fires

2,706 views • 92 upvotes • Made by I1k 4 years ago in politics
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Bangaioh
11 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Liberals acting like liberals
I1k
7 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I'm a liberal
CarrickMcHwain
5 ups, 4y, 2 replies
You probably heard this before but the Democrat party of yesterday is no longer the Democrat party of today.



Likewise, "liberal" no longer means what you think it means. I suggest you stop calling yourself a liberal.
The_beez_kneez
7 ups, 4y
better than being a Conservative
I1k
1 up, 4y
Suggestion not taken.
The_beez_kneez
6 ups, 4y, 1 reply
it's not liberals you idiot
DrSarcasm
2 ups, 4y
They aren’t conservatives
ORANGE.MAN.BAD
7 ups, 4y
It does plenty of good to damage fire trucks if you're intent on bringing division amongst people. Not a really tough question to answer when applied to the Marxists running that movement. The BLM message is clearly not much about racial injustice so much as social disruption.
RedBarron1
5 ups, 4y
well said
Festive_chonk
5 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Wait I thought you were a liberal, are you?
I1k
14 ups, 4y, 4 replies
I am not one of those aMErICa sUCks wE sHOuLd hAVe ComMUnIsM liberals. I'm a moderate liberal. That means I lean a little bit to the left. I am in full support of the protests for racial justice, but I HATE those idiots who just ruin the message of BLM by attacking firefighters and destroying innocent people's businesses, some of them even black owned. I live near Bellevue, Washington, and looters broke into the Bellevue square, and looted everything there. They caused the Microsoft store to close down. I hate them.
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10 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I used to be centre-left with socialist leanings, then i woke up one day and found out i was everything in that meme ...all because I had the audacity to do some personal research on Trump when he announced he was running for president! ...oh, and vote for Brexit!   :p
I1k
8 ups, 4y, 2 replies
What are you even talking about? You're saying that I'm a neo nazi...?
[deleted]
5 ups, 4y, 1 reply
no, that's what leftists (clearly not yourself tho') usually say about people they disagree with



i thought that was clear enough in my comment 



"i woke up one day and found out i was everything in that meme"  that meme, being the Cathy Newman one i just did
I1k
9 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Zaklog
6 ups, 4y, 1 reply
No, we’re willing to talk with people we disagree with. We’re willing to engage in the normal process of politics. We don’t try to smash the whole system in a tantrum just because we didn’t get our way.
I1k
5 ups, 4y, 1 reply
You're only disagreeing with the meme above because I'm talking about rightists.
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CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
I1k
7 ups, 4y, 7 replies
I'm not going to f*cking read all of that bullshit coming out of you. No matter how many paragraphs you write bashing liberals and protesters, I'm still liberal. You're saying the left are openly admitting they endorse communist. The right openly admits that they endorse white supremacist confederate traitors to american democracy. I am not part of the problem. I'm just someone sitting behind a computer arguing on imgflip. I've never been to one of those protests. I've seen videos of it. The biggest problem I cause? Probably I'm causing problems for conservatives because now they know liberals are denouncing rioters and looters and not supporting them. 



YOU wake the F*CK up.
sparrowflight38
1 up, 4y
But I bet you and those like you will vote straight Blue,  keeping the politicians in charge that are allowing these riots,  doing NOTHING to stop them,  and are endorsing them.

So Yes, if what I just said is true,   You are indeed the problem.



2020 with the memorable Summer of Love.  And BILLIONS of dollars of damage and lives ruined.   Your ballot enabled that, and you will continue to be part of the problem. 

Wake  the F up.
CarrickMcHwain
1 up, 4y
Millennials, Gen Z increasingly comfortable with socialism, Marxism, activists say



https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/what-americans-must-know-about-socialism
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
https://victimsofcommunism.org/annual-poll/2020-annual-poll/
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
No doubt you're going to go google hard and try to find some far right protesters holding NAZI flags or something. And you might even find some.



But here it is again, right? Trump and the right has denounced those groups, KKK, neo-NAZI, etc... about 33 times.



The left has not denounced Antifa (which is a German communist militant group),  BLM (leaders claiming to be trained Marxists), and other socialist/communist groups.



You keep trying to bridge the 2 as polarized extremes. But yet refuse to address what the "mainstream" left is supporting.



You claim you are different than those rabid left. So prove it. I have given you chance after chance to prove it. Showing you evidence after evidence.



Are you going to change your view due to facts?



Or make excuses? Attack me? Do anything to defend your false views?



Your move.
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
Don't like to read? That's fine.
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
I1k
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
which i why I'm going to block you
CarrickMcHwain
2 ups, 4y
Of course. block the truth. Do it.
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
But the left IS literally holding communist flags in their riots and protests. The left IS opening embracing communism and socialism in their policies.



So your argument is moot.
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0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I1k
4 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Ya know it's kinda like rightists calling people who they disagree with communists.
[deleted]
7 ups, 4y
not even close. not even in the same ball park. not even on the same planet. not even on the same dimension.



the difference is most people on the left ARE pushing a marxist agenda...whether they're intelligent enough to know it.  then again, that's probably why they call them "useful idiots"
CarrickMcHwain
0 ups, 4y
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portland-usa-august-17-2019-antifa-1481495057
calronmoonflower
5 ups, 4y
Anyone not left of Stalin is far right now.
Festive_chonk
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
At least you're not racist so I'll give you a pass
I1k
7 ups, 4y
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/15/criminals-used-george-floyd-protests-cover-looting-police-say/5324881002/



This basically explains everything
Zaklog
5 ups, 4y, 1 reply
They’re not ruining the message of BLM. They *are* the message of BLM.



Look, you want “racial justice”? Cool. When are black people going to apologize for murdering white people at ten times the rate we do them? Can we get some acknowledgment of that?
The_beez_kneez
4 ups, 4y, 1 reply
But...they aren’t.
Zaklog
1 up, 4y
Yes, they are. They regularly murder twice as many whites as the reverse, and we outnumber them 5 to 1. Put those together and that’s a 10 times higher rate.
Mental_Injury8900
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
i support blm with all of my heart. i dont support the ongoing riots.
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0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Mental_Injury8900
2 ups, 4y
can you provide stats? yes peaceful protests kill billions of people yup. what does slavery have to do with this?
Mental_Injury8900
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
ya'll realize that a democrat posted this. the vast majority of liberals dont support these riots. wake up.
I1k
4 ups, 4y
stop telling me to wake up, I'm already awake dummy
Slobama
4 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Counterpoint



First off, these are windows. Yeah, it caused dramatic-looking damage but windows can be replaced. Lives lost cannot.



Second: Some violent Righties have realized the political hay they can make by descending upon protests and causing damage of their own, realizing most will assume that it was the fault of the larger crowds. Do we know who exactly caused this damage and for what reason? (As a matter of fact, when you look at the numbers, right-affiliated domestic terrorism has caused much greater loss of life than left-leaning.)



Third: Focusing on the destruction to the exclusion of the underlying causes is an incomplete picture and will do nothing to prevent similar incidents in the future. MLK said it best. I will repost his statement on “riots” once again, because it’s timeless.
Slobama
4 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Still the best statement on the difficult question of “riots” that I’ve ever read.
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0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Slobama
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I like the passage because it explains where riots come from and how to prevent them.



Ready for social justice and progress or nah
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0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Slobama
3 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Wonderful: You took the bait and jettisoned MLK, and now anyone who has studied 6th grade civics can spot you from afar as a person who knows less than zilch about race issues in this country



Other than that, you have finally provided me with a good reason to support the free speech rights of lunatics, so there’s that



So long as you keep your commentary directed at the wind farm
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0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Slobama
4 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Not a god, just a guy who's thought longer and harder about race issues than you, did more to bring about racial equality than just about anyone in our history, and paid for his activism with his life.



Yes please, "touch him" more often in our chats



Maybe you will learn something
VagabondSouffle
0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Just about.



Hey, giving speeches and making a career out of it is all fine and dandy, and not to make light of getting killed while doing it, but there are others that did a heckuva lot more with no audience to cheer them as they stood behind the podium.



Thing is, if it wasn't for the likes of Rosa Parks and Emmet Tibbs, MLK would be just another preacher in some church somewhere.
Registeel
1 up, 4y
Well anyway I have personality traits that are considered masculine.
Registeel
1 up, 4y, 1 reply
I'm not trans and I never said anything about being male
VagabondSouffle
0 ups, 4y
Sure thing, "demigirl"
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0 ups, 4y, 2 replies
Registeel
3 ups, 4y
How is a god someone who spent years longer then the ten seconds you spent with racial injustice
Registeel
2 ups, 4y, 1 reply
I'm female and no I don't drink
VagabondSouffle
0 ups, 4y
male*
DrSarcasm
0 ups, 4y, 1 reply
Crime is never a justification
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1 up, 4y, 1 reply
DrSarcasm
0 ups, 4y
Mobs are self centered individuals.  Thus they seek personal gain, not justice for all.  What is officially requested is not the real goal, and thus answering their demands does not appease them, even if the demands are needed and beneficial.
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