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5 ups, 4y,
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4 ups, 4y,
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Tell me more
5 ups, 4y,
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You are unaware of affirmative action and how it effects the work place and education?
3 ups, 4y
No. In fact I have never heard of affirmative action. I can look it up
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The meme is about racism but don't forget gender and sexual orientation, leave those out and you can now be penalized in CA as a business owner. I will never understand that concept.
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CA is a libtarded wasteland. A once great state ruined by regressive politicians. A wonderful place where knowingly transmitting HIV gets you a ticket and a fine. A place where it's not about equality of opportunity but equality of outcome.
3 ups, 4y,
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Truth. It's no wonder people (that can afford to do so) are leaving left and right.
2 ups, 4y
Unfortunately so many just revote for the policies that made them flee. Definition of insanity. Funny how CA used to be staunchly republican before Ronald McRaygun screwed that up.
4 ups, 4y,
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When you say "structural racism" are you meaning "systemic racism" or are you referring to something else?
4 ups, 4y,
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Systemic yes
I forgot the word so I looked it up and that came up
5 ups, 4y
Gotcha. I believe systemic racism is definitely a thing, but I don't believe it is a current issue in the US. To say that a nation is plagued by systemic racism is very vague and it implies that there are official laws and ordinances in place that hold citizens back purely based on their skin color. It is also something that gives rise to dissent without an actual solution that is feasible. You can't solve a problem that cannot be targeted with specific instances. To my knowledge, there are no laws currently on the books that are based on race, other than the one instance that SydneyB mentioned above which is affirmative action doctrine, and that seeks to elevate minorities to positions they may not even be qualified for simply because of their skin color. The Jim Crow days were the most recent example of systemic racism that I know of, and all of that has been reversed or nullified, thankfully. Anyone that embraces this idea that they cannot succeed just because of their skin is only holding themselves back and is clinging to their victim card much too tightly. That is my opinion.
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it's real. Black communities have been affected to redlining, which was when Banks would purposely fund white communities more than black communities, making it harder for black businesses and schools. Racism in the police is also an issue, as innocent young black men are shot by the police way more than any other person in the U.S.
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More whites are shot by police than blacks.
1 up, 4y
It's real. The powers that be can't explicitly shit on minorities, however there are many other ways of designing institutions and laws in a way that targets them or disproportionately harms them.

For example, voting requirements. You might've heard there's voter suppression in Georgia recently. It's not a white governor saying, "Get these n****s off the voter rolls." It's more subtle. Black people can be targeted by adding more ID requirements, making lines in black communities insufferably long, TLDR making voting inconvenient in little ways that tend to hit harder against them.

Things will effect minorities differently because their realities are different on average. They have (on average) less wealth, lower life expectancy, more stress/hypertension, less stability or security than white people. They're less likely to have a reliable vehicle. They tend to live in the same areas because of systemic racism in housing.

Btw voter registrations have been purged in the US without clear reason in recent times. They said it was because the people didn't vote for a while.

Disproportionate policing and conviction is another huge can of worms that effects voting. In some states you actually would be asking the governor for your right to vote to be restored after serving time.

If you come to a country in bondage and are literally treated like livestock, that initial disadvantage has a way of compounding over generations. The powers that be preserve their privilege and keep the white poor from joining the minority poor because it serves their interests.
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When it comes to racism, I need to set a few things right. Structural racism itself is a fact, but a fact that is quite often taken out of its context. Many things that were not racist are deemed so, and then it gets harder to take the issue seriously, which is a terrible fact on its own, since racism is not the be disregarded.

However racism is not *the* problem, but merely one of the many symptoms of *the* problem. The problem is that humans have not yet outgrown their natural instinct to hate people of another "group", and to therefore think in "we" and "they". Back in the tribal times, when resources given by nature were all we had, and also rare, we had to fight over them and the strongest tribe was then allowed to have them. The entire phenomenon of "war" is based on that. Those people had to hate members of other tribes, for their own survival. Modern society no longer is set up in a way that we can afford this attitude, but this society came forth through revolutions... fast events. Evolution, which means "slow event", didn't catch up with the quick development of civilization, and so many old instincts, including the instinct to hate the "they", still remained and refuses to die. That is *the* problem, and one not easily solved on a short term either, I'm afraid. It's hard to make people go against natural instincts.

Whatever marks "we" or "they" can have many reasons. In the case of racism "we", the white vs. "they" the black, but this also goes vice versa, as a black person hating white people is racist as well, and it would be racism to deny that fact. But we can also see this as "we" the western religions vs. "they" the Muslims, and vice versa. But we can also see this in sports. Soccer in particular is infamous for that. "We" (supporters of team A), and "they" (supporters of team B). If you wonder why these supporters literally fight each other, well here you got your answer, folks! And whoever the "we" is and whoever the "they", is not that relevant as long as we can deem "we" the "good" and "they" the "evil". Whatever cultural or political or historical story you put behind it, it basically always comes down to that. Racism is no exception. When you analyze propaganda of any conflict you can always see how "we" are put on a holy platform and how "they" are in all kinds the most evil beings in existence, and that always goes for both sides of the conflict. Discrimination is basically in the same boat.

To be continued ->
1 up, 4y
Now when it comes to "structural racism", one should always be careful. Every case in which racism can have played a role is a case on its own. I have heard stories in which white cops killed a black suspect and that the world rose in anger due to "racism", and it turned out that the black suspect actually *was* a very extremely dangerous criminal and that the cops really had no choice but to kill him on the spot. Black people are not saints after all, and deeming them so, would actually also be racism... Positive discrimination is still discrimination. I can however also not ignore the fact that I hear a lot about black people being abused by cops in the U.S., but in the Netherlands were I live, a lot of black people complain that cops pick them out more for routine checkups than white people, and independent investigations apparently do come up with numbers that make the complaint plausible (it's impossible to deem it entirely "confirmed"). This being said, we can see that structural racism is quite real, or at least it seems to be. Of course, the assumption that people acted out of racism when the "culprits" are white and the "victims" are black, is also structural racism on its own, as you must first know what exactly happened. Everything I head about the George Floyd case does at least point to the direction that the cops were acting in a way that was in no possible way justified. If Floyd's skin color was the reason for this abuse is impossible to prove, but I deem it very likely. And yes, there is a certain "pattern" here.

So yeah, "structural racism" happens, but one must also be careful in deeming something part of that, as before you know it, you become what you sought to destroy ;)
1 up, 4y
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Bruh I donr
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1 up, 4y
People that think it doesn't exist clearly never went to third grade and above, where you actually learn about segregation and slavery.
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Systematic racism is fiction. It's a concept created by a consortium of America's enemies and individuals with Marxist leanings, with the help of the media, to entice the simple minded, the gullible and the weak willed to join their cause by making them believe that they have been disenfranchised by the people who have made good lives for themselves and bamboozled out of their fare share so they can wage war on the middle class and destabilize the nation.
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You sir, are a racist idiot that hasn't been to third grade
1 up, 4y,
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Whatever snowflake. Go back to servicing your Marxist handlers you communist concubine. And thank you for proving my point you gullible, weak willed, simpleton. If you'd been paying attention in history class, you would've learned that slavery and segregation were abolished a long time ago. Get over It! Lot of good your special education did for you. If you'd understood the meme, you would have presented an effective, thought provoking argument. Instead, you resorted to trolling, bullying and name calling like the bleeding, liberal c**t you are.
1 up, 4y
Low hanging fruit but yeah.
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