Donald Trump -- Respectful Patriot

History is history

LOL! thanks for being impartial :)

Ford and Carter are using a different desk.

I believe you are correct! My bad.

And to think he farted in that chair.

That damned Obama...feet up on the desk? When was Obama President anyways? Seems so long ago. Behind the desk where Donald can't seeing himself wearing a mask, greeting "presidents, prime ministers, DICTATORS, kings and queens" LOL! He looks forward to greeting dictators...that's nice. LMAO! I don't think that too many world leaders are gonna be rushing in to have an up-close chat with the President...even if Trump was sealed in Saran Wrap! :)

I... dont understand why that is bad. Its just a desk and its the man's office.

Notice how there's nothing on Trump's desk?

Better than a f**k like you who'd burn it.

"Better than a f**k like you who'd burn it."

Amazing quote, except not an amazing quote. Really? You criticize Obama for putting his feet up on the desk, yet you don't think it is a bit weird that Trump is holding onto that flag like it is his reelection funds? Nope, because whatever Trump does is good for you people. Also, burning the American flag? Pretty sure no one would do that, not Trump, not Obama, not MiniAppleIs, not ANYONE.

Point to where I criticize anyone for putting their legs anywhere. Done strawmanning?

And anything Trump does is criticized and cried about by you people. Trump hugs a flag. Is that too much of an indication that he really loves America for you to handle?

That was said to a moron that doesn't know the difference between hugging and f**king. Probably not but there are alot of antifa commies that do burn the flag.

"And anything that Trump does is criticized and cried about by you people."

This is not true, at least for me. The only time where I criticize any president us when they do something wrong or moronic. But whenever I criticize this president, people like you are like:

"LIBTARDED BITCH!" "YOU HATE AMERICA!" "STOP SPREADING PROPAGANDA!"

Trump has done many things wrong, and people are not willing to admit that because they want acceptance on this stream. And no, Trump assuredly does not love America because he basically brushed off this pandemic for the first few months and only started working when he realized that he would get criticized.

Also, let me rephrase: "The only SANE people who would burn the flag are poor people who need warmth." Better?

I see. So all the democrats that complained about Trump closing travel from China and sent tweets telling people to go out in crowds in MARCH hate America?

Woo hee. That's low simple level thinking.

For one, I did not complain when trump closed travel to China. I actually thought "WOW, he is actually doing something for once!" And which Democrats tweeted to go outside in crowds?

You can call him a patriot without technically lying, as the definition of patriot is somewhat hazy depending on who's using it and in what context.

You can't call him a respectful person without lying. There is no definition of the term that applies to him.

You can recognize him as disrespectful and still support him, by the way. That's allowed.

Can you call Biden a respectful person?

Honestly? I'm not terribly sure on the whole. He appeared respectful of his offices as VP and Senator, albeit somewhat casual (for example, while the Affordable Care Act was indeed a "big f**king deal", one should assume a more formal air in the moment). However, his personal history with women is one that is rife with disrespectful moments, which is not ok regardless of whether his actions were legal (for example, making someone uncomfortable once at a campaign rally is not illegal, but it still sucks and you shouldn't do it).

As happens entirely too often in politics, we're not given a choice between the two best options - we've got Trump and (presumably) Biden. So instead of asking, "Who's the best one for the job," we're forced to ask, "Who's better for the job? Who's more likely to move the country forward and less likely to screw everything up in the attempt?"

I would certainly call Biden MORE respectful than Trump, by every measure I can think of. Again, though, you can support a disrespectful person for the office. Millions of people did in 2016. And there have certainly been past presidents who qualify as disrespectful (though none to the level that Trump goes to) and who also have done a respectable job (time will tell with Trump on this front).

I was talking more about Biden's recent fights with his supporters at rallies. Insulting them and challenging them. He said he'd love to take Trump behind the shed etc. Had Trump done that, the media would freak out. It's funny with Trump. So many slam Trump for his admittedly childish ways, but then go even further than Trump eventually, in the dem party.

But fair enough! That's why alot voted Trump 2016, just because they hated Hillary more. I actually hoped Carson would get the nod in 2015.

No one has gone further than Trump in this way. It's kind of his trademark as a politician. If someone ever did, he'd find a way to top them.

I think the vast majority of Republicans gritted their teeth when they voted for him in 2016. I also think a large portion of the ones who did so have been in such a defensive posture about their vote for so long that they've become defensive of him, even when he does or says something that would have been objectionable four years ago.

"No one has gone further" Do you mean as a politician?

I don't think it was a vast majority. Trump was an outsider populist many voted for because he wasn't a lifelong politician. Well, when the other side is constantly seething and crying about stupid things like 2 scoops of ice cream or muh Trump twitter typos, alot probably will defend Trump more. But some of the things you guys hate and think should be condemned, are what attracted voters to him, like not being a gutless cuck that gets walked over by the media.

Trump is a patriot and there is no 'HAZY definition' for it, akeller. He is the embodiment of patriotism. He wants the best for our country while Progressives defy the rule of law, the Constitution and American values on a daily basis.

Freedom of speech has been redefined with political correctness and libs advance their destructive policies while erasing conservative comments and videos from the internet. Racism is blamed for pretty much everything as victim-hood mentality overrides rational thought. The country has been invaded by illegals. Other nations have taken advantage of America for years & Trump is working on all of this and SO MUCH MORE.

All of the achievements and you want to focus your attention on Trump being disrespectful. He is not a PC person and can be blunt when he might choose to be otherwise. Sometimes things go better left unsaid but.we are all imperfect in some way. Do you badmouth Einstein because he didn't clip his toenails? Prioritize and put the greater good of our country FIRST. As a female, I respect and support the man for his brilliance, his patriotism, his accomplishments and his balls for taking on an establishment that is CORRUPT....

If "he wants the best for our country" is the definition of patriotism, then what that means is incredibly hazy, to the point of being a matter of mere opinion based on what "the best" is for you. For example: He seems to want the US to be a world leader without being dependent upon the rest of the world for anything or considering other nations' competing needs when making decisions. If you think this is what's best for the country, then he qualifies as a patriot in your opinion. If you think what's best is for the US to be a world leader through cooperation and partnership with other nations, then he does not qualify as a patriot in your opinion.

Either that, or anyone who wants the best for the nation is a patriot, regardless of how they define what "the best" is. If that's the case, then the bar for patriotism is incredibly low, and he qualifies, as does Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Bernie Sanders, Steve King, and every other person in government who isn't a willing foreign agent. Hell, David Duke and Bill Ayers would qualify as patriots - all you have to do is be an American and have a desire to see the country advance in a direction that you define as "the best" direction the country should go.

Again, you can support someone who is disrespectful. A person who is disrespectful can be patriotic, and can do great things for the nation as president. I'm just incredibly weary of the language Trump supporters use to describe him, as though he's some paragon of virtue or infallible saint. We all know he's not.

He's an asshole. He's cultivated his "asshole who speaks his mind whether you like it or not" brand for decades. The fact that he's the President doesn't make his behavior suddenly respectful, or even appropriate. You support him because you believe he's the best person to take on a corrupt establishment, cool. Awesome. You do you. Just stop idealizing and/or idolizing him

Funny how you direct me by saying, "You do you." Then, you add the stipulation, "Just stop idealizing and/or idolizing him" when that negates the "me being me", lol. Liberals are all about control of speech, behavior as well as thought. How about listening to the James Bay song where he says, "Why don't you be you and I'll be me?" and I continue being me and loving Trump? Cheers, akeller!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsPq9mzFNGY

You can support him without lying. I promise.

I don't lie. I love Trump as he has been our wedge against EVIL Democrats who support investigations and impeachment of a President "without evidence" along with spying and lying! I think a whole lot more good Americans think like I do than like you, akeller. The Schiff is getting ready to hit the fan...

You go ahead and believe that. All of that can be true in addition to him being a disrespectful asshole.

The point I’m making is this: there are decades of evidence to support that he’s a disrespectful asshole. To deny it and/or say otherwise is either to lie or to be completely ignorant of the reality of the person. It’s incredibly difficult to be the latter.

For decades Mr Trump was a respected Democrat.

From the time he walked down the stairs and announced his run as a Republican for president, the Main Stream Media feigned support for his run as a ploy to knock out all of his Republican opponents. Some of them good men. Because they thought he had no chance of beating Hillary.

As soon as he received the Republican nomination they betrayed him and have attacked him at every turn.

He is a lot smarter than people give him credit. He doesn't throw the first punch, but he gets his licks in.

He is also expert at baiting them into making fools of themselves.

Wow, that is not at ALL how I remember the 2016 election season going.

First, I wouldn't have called him a respected Democrat - I'd call him a respected donor to Democratic campaigns. Second, he had made a distinct break from the national Democratic Party well before the end of Obama's first term, so announcing himself as a Republican candidate wasn't a surprise for anyone. Finally, the media largely treated him as either a joke or a stain on the Republican Party in 2015-16 until it became clear he was actually a legitimate candidate, then skewered him for his lack of experience, tact, and social grace. This, of course, is why his supporters liked him, so his support only grew as a result. And like all candidates regardless of party affiliation, his supporters were generally more interested in catchphrases than policies, and you have to admit his catchphrases were perfect for the purpose.

His campaign was brilliant, if all you want to do is be president. If what he wanted to do was to actually affect meaningful, lasting change, his campaign torpedoed any chance of being able to do so without massive pushback from half the country. Time will tell if what he's done and will do in office will stand the test of time, and what his legacy will be.

He is indeed an epic troll. I'm saddened that that's viewed as a positive attribute by his supporters.

OR...

You can recognize that both Trump and Democratic Socialists are dangerous in their own ways, and oppose each of them for their harmful policies.

Seriously, has your view of the world simplified so much that you think there are only two options in politics, that they are polar opposites of each other without any common ground, and that opposition to one means full support for the other? There are some things Trump has done that I'm ok with, and a few that I actually support. Are there any that you're unhappy with? If not, then you're not paying close enough attention - no one is perfect.

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