There is NO SUCH THING as "right wing extremism"

ok I did it

"The Nazis were no different from the Communists who are no different from the Socialists who are no different from the Anarchists"

gotta love when hitler aspired anarch-- oh wait

gotta love when hitler made every business state-owned to benefit the peopl-- oh wait he wanted to expand agriculture which is why he took over poland

"This has no meaning. It's a lazy label, and a dog whistle to Leftists"

top 10 plot twists

no. 1: when timber held double standards about leftist dog whistling before literally saying that nazis and communists and anarchists were all leftist extremists

let's face it: all forms of extremism is bad. right wing extremism can come in the form of religious fundamentalism; 9/11 was a form of right wing extremism. denying it exists is a cuckish thing to do

but hey, the holocaust doesn't exist because the israelis need something to give themselves legitimacy and conspiracy conspiracy stuff

"What you don't understand...and there are no "double standards" being expressed here, despite your claim...is that the motives of these people, the reasons WHY they do what they do...is utterly irrelevant to their victims"

don't even know why the word "leftist" matters then. the victims are victims, right or left.

"There is no such thing as "right wing" anything...because there's no such thing as a "right wing." It's all the very same thing: the imposition of my will upon you, or vice versa. That's it.

aww.. i thought there was such thing as a rightwing party. lol imagine there just being left and center things. no right. lmao. try again

"The whole "right wing" vs. "left wing" "argument" is a distraction, to keep people tribalized. It means absolutely nothing"

ooooooh. dunno why you called everything "leftism" then. distracted much?

"You seek to impose your will on others? You're a Leftist. You seek to impose your will on others by force, regardless of their objections? You're a tyrant."

the whole leftist thing is a distraction lol

"Everything else....ALL of it...is window dressing"

nothing to see here folks! it's all jibber jabber! just window dressing!

"As for you: if you can't make an argument without being insulting, you go into the pile of idiots that infest imgflip. I expect better of you, because you are better. So cut it out."

lmao aight

"One more time, and you're perilously close to being written off as another crackpot Leftist who does not deserve the courtesy of a serious, thoughtful response"

lmao i'm not the one saying that "left and right are distractions" then turning my back to call one side tyranny.

"which is why the word "Leftist" REALLLLLLLLY upsets you...is clear. There is **no such thing** as "right" or "center" or "left.""

the irony is that you're still using the word "leftist". if it has no meaning, then why use it?

i agree that left and right are distractions. i just find it weird that you're backtracking on that statement and using the word "leftist" like an insult.

"Sigh"

uh oh big intellectual energy over here SIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHH

"Stop getting hung up on the word "Leftist." It is not a "side.""

aight. why's it called "leftist", then?

"If you are a Leftist, why are you insulted if someone calls you that? Shouldn't you be proud of your political beliefs?"

lmao i ain't. wouldn't say i'm proud of my political beliefs either. it's just funny to talk smack at someone who becomes condescending and associates innocent people with different beliefs with murderous ideologies

"But it's nice to see you finally admit the reason for your reaction: you're offended."

seems like you're out of ideas lmao. predictable

"Hitler was a Leftist"

left and right is a distraction. lmao. retroactive

"There is no such thing as "innocent" people"

imagine thinking communism is a good idea and having good arguments for it just to be guilt-tripped because stalin existed

"You're an Anarchist? You have a murderous ideology...You're a Socialist? You have a murderous ideology."

imagine being that salty about other people having different political beliefs. so sad

"It's called "Leftist" because people need labels, as stupid as those labels are"

there's a weird game of mental gymnastics. why not just call them.. i dunno... evil?

"what "the left" refuses to acknowledge is that there is a deeply substantial difference between "conservatives" and racist nationalists"

that is true, i'll let you go on that. everything else is condescending to hell though

Yeah: when you call people “idiots,” you imagine it to be an objective description of reality and an exercise of your intellectual power.

When others use similar language, you perceive it as insulting and a sign of weakness.

Easy cognitive mistake

And what is your job?

Your lover friend came to your rescue and actually it was kind of intimidating I mean he's a big name on here with a big ego and I'm not even sure that he's a he, he might be a she but hey that's the way we roll people ambiguous keep it anonymous and really faceless and unaccountable that's how we like it and so we can get all self-righteous about how someone did something something else when the same thing is done by the accuser 24/7 is kind of moronic and then made me want to spew but already spew today when I first came on this meme

This is why drugs not good, ya doink/

Oh, you meant when I called your lover friend and yourself homophobic closet gay people and or f*gs yeah after you called me Justin. However, thanks for calling me my real name the other day I'm not sure if you were mocking or not but anyway.

Holy f*** you can tell some lies. I just came on to check something accidentally caught your post by chance. I didn't even have the name of this thread bookmarked.

You are a lying scumbag f*** who is concerned with how you can make things look and ur not worth my time to explain you called me Justin first, when you mistook a post that was for timber you thought was for moron you. There's a bunch of people who witnessed this happen so I'm sure no one could really care now every good sort on this stream only cares about themselves and you sort of get that with people.

I was calling Timber a nazi homophobic closet f*g for losing patience after he had been stalking me with unwelcome advice when I first got on here, and then calling me Justin. Trans girls are owning the word f*g. Ur not good enough to be a f*g, ur more a - meaningless troll.

Oh, other people set the parameters do they and you just roll a long. Because you think of people as a playthings you are above.

Don't bother replying I will not be coming back for it. Sure reply for the crowd so long as they know with you it will always be lies. Troll on phaggot.

No, dummy, I started calling you "Justin" in response to that - and after you had done it repeatedly, thus certifying how you intended it.
For example, "fhaggot" can mean other things (stupid, dipwad, dork, etc), so I had to (officially) make sure how you meant it before I proceeded.

Like anyone here, you set the parameters, I go along with it. Because I aim to please.

Enjoy.

You know I'm not homophobic, you know I didn't fall in love with you at any stage. Why mention drugs? I don't even like ya.

You mention all these untrue things in an attempt to make it look a certain way, that's all.

Sorry, I couldn't get one without the watermarks for you.

If you have nothing to contribute - and you never do - can you, like, fhuck off already?

Pretty sure that warning you got was in regards to your stalking/harrassing in general, not just specifically in regards to me.

Now run along, your job selling yourself so you can pollute your body with drugs awaits.

I am NOT slow!

What do you mean the warning was for stalking/ harassing in general?

it was a little spat with OlympianProducts. In fact I wasn't stalking you that day I was checking out your disgraceful KylieSucks stream. Then had to say stuff to an about you.

You are just willing to lie and cheat in any argument. You're a waste of space.

And anyway, as I said, a hypocrite I can't imagine how much stalking you have done in your significant time here.

I think the debate is all wrapped up here pretty good. I just unfortunately stumbled across the string, no stalking that can be proved. What warning are you talking about moron?

You guys stalk each other all the time.

You've got no rights to this site no leadership really and certainly not the right to tell me where and when not to go. I was just offended by your lover/ enemy's meme here. I did contribute like wtf what the f*** do you know about tyranny being, affected by is it. Was a fair question and the Fair Lady didn't answer it.

You are still pretending to be politically correct about homosexuality and homelessness and obesity etc. Meanwhile being a whole hell of a complete arsehole about all the political incorrectness with just about everything else don't play games with me you either care or you don't care about the stuff that's happening on this planet you don't need to pretend you either care or you don't care.

Your whining about Nazis wouldn't be so unwelcome, provided you weren't intellectually dishonest about lumping so many other political philosophies in with them.

Example: I don't know where you get the idea "Anarchists" seek to control the population: Anarchists literally advocate the abolition of government.

Profoundly dumb, but for a different reason.

Sounds like another highfalutin term you lazily threw in there to bolster your argument.

Study the chart, my man. You have work to do.

um,,,

But what of the Ancaps?

Lol even with the "greatest president ever" he is still letting us slip towards tyranny? Im sure a genius like trump should have been able to thwart evil Pelosi and Schiff by now.

Ahh conservatives.. always the victim of perceived loss of liberty.

And you... always the victim of perceived honest media

Oh no! What false belies do I hold!?

According to the human anatomy, we only have one belly and it is actually quite real.

beliefs*

The way these skinheads mix their Heil Hitler salutes with apparent reverence for the American flag pretty much destroys your argument.

You'll lazily, meaninglessly label these guys "Leftists," I predict. But all indications are they are of the Right. They're white nationalists, they don't vote Democrat, they hate Islam, and a lot of them like Donald Trump and what he has to say about building walls, restricting immigration, shrinking the size of government, and withdrawing from international institutions.

They don't just march around heiling Hitler and waving American (and Confederate and Nazi) flags too, they actually go out and kill people.

Fun fact: All of the extremist killings in the US in 2018 had links to right-wing extremism.

https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1

Right-wing extremism is on the rise in this country, and minimizing or outright claiming it doesn't even exist is dangerous and misguided.

That link talks about the anti-defamation league a well known leftist propaganda organization.

You're being very socially awkward/awesome today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

Read this reality-based source for some background on what this organization has done for Jews in its history.

What have they done specifically to earn the "Leftist" label in your book?

I'm always socially awkward.
I don't support Israel except as a possible ally in the middle east. I don't agree with all the money we give them.
The ADL used to be a centrist organization that was anti-semitic, but in the past few years they've gone decidedly leftist, not liberal, leftist.

Further, not only is Right Wing extremism very much a thing, the Left Wing extremism you are refering to is really 'officially' Left Wing movements hijacked by Right Wing elements. Happens every time, just like in Animal Farm.

referring*

What Timber1972 is attempting to do right here is an ad hominem attack. If you can refute the argument presented, just attack the person presenting the argument. Kylie is in fact correct.

You landed somewhere between "ad hominem" and "name-calling" today.

I'll let you pick which.

Your ignorance is out of control! The majority of conservatives are for protecting the Jewish race. You get a band of nazi racists, you're gonna have problems. The liberals are for assisting the Muslims and abandoning the Jews. You know why? The TRUE Muslims believe that they have to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth (Do your research before answering this). The difference between these two parties? Conservatives against racists, racists for conservatives. Liberals for Muslims, Muslims for liberals.

The majority of wha is for protecting the Jewish wha?
What planet are you from?
Race? Sounds Hitlerite.

You need to learn some history, son, someone's been lying to you.

"The TRUE Muslims believe that they have to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth"

Yes, you really do need to do your research before yapping this bullshit. Go back 2000 years and pause at -500. Pay lots of attention to "Sephardim."
Then continue onto the 20th Century and onto the present, where anti-Semitism has been on the rise throughtout the world in very recent years, 2016 in the USA.

"The difference between these two parties? Conservatives against racists, racists for conservatives. Liberals for Muslims, Muslims for liberals."

Again, wha? First, those aren't two parties, second, part of conservative dismissals of liberals, progressives, the left, yadda yadda is based on a lil' ol' tome known as "The Protocols of Zion." You might one to look that up. That's why they call Communism, Socialism, and Globalism Zionist plots. That's what they also call 9/11, a plot to - you guessed it - wipe the Muslims off the face of the Earth.

Oh man... I'm speechless. You are the first person on IMGFLIP to irritate me. Anyway, your an idiot and have no sources to back up your claims. What the heck does the protocols of Zion have to do with this? That was a conspiracy theory. Apparently you haven't read the Quran (The "holy" book of the Muslims and Islamics).

(9:5) And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

There we are promised to eat and drink pleasantly for what we did (56:19). He also promises “boys like hidden pearls” (56:24) and “youth never altering in age like scattered pearls” (for those who have paedophiliac inclinations) (76:19). As you see, Allah has promised all sorts or rewards, gluttony and unlimited sex to Muslim men who kill unbelievers in his name. We will be admitted to Paradise where we shall find “goodly things, beautiful ones, pure ones confined to the pavilions that man has not touched them before nor jinni” (56:67-71).

As for women, the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (4:34). It advises to “take a green branch and beat your wife”, because a green branch is more flexible and hurts more. (38:44). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (2:228).

It not only denies the women’s equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the courts of law (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness.
Our Holy Prophet allows us to marry up to four wives and he licensed us to sleep with our slave maids and as many ‘captive’ women as we may have (4:3) even if those women are already married. He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers allegedly raped up to 250,000 Bengali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the w

"Anyway, your an idiot"

Anyway, you're* an idiot

Oh, the irony.

If you took your time to read the Torah - or copypaste a list of babble like you did here - you'd see what the inspiration of those lines came from and then some. Everything from stoning people simply for gathering sticks for the fire on the Sabbath to shunning and killing the infidel to forcing daughters to marry their rapist or she wil get stoned to death to fathers selling their child daughters to be sex slaves to harems and concubines to killing your concubine and cutting her to pieces should you find her at your door after she was gang raped to the point she couldn't walk in on their own to child sacrifice.
Granted, young women don't get stoned to death nowadays if their hymen is broken, but they are still checked for it on their wedding day to. this. very. day.
AKA yes, fella, Mohammed did his homework. Having a Jewish mother helped.

btw, have you been paying attention to what the JEWISH state of Israel has been doing to not only non-Jews, but non-AskaNazis?

Tell BiBi his bots need to do a little learning about their own history - including as of yesterday. Because being an ignorant putz ain't cute.

Again, you're an idiot.

"Everything from stoning people simply for gathering sticks for the fire on the Sabbath to shunning and killing the infidel to forcing daughters to marry their rapist or she will get stoned to death to fathers selling their child daughters to be sex slaves to harems and concubines to killing your concubine and cutting her to pieces should you find her at your door after she was gang **ped to the point she couldn't walk in on their own to child sacrifice."

Where the heck does it say this in the Torah?

Stoning in the Torah did happen, I'll give you that.

Actually, not again.
YOUR words: "Anyway, your an idiot"

Try READING the Torah.

Oh, did it now? Good to know I was right on that at least, oh wise one *wipes brow*

I spent my time giving you citations on the Quran, yet you can't back up anything you said about the Torah. So at the moment, that makes your statement false.

No, it doesn't. You stating that, however, makes you a liar, and a bearer of false witness. God don't like that.
You even EGADS! admitted you know stoning was a thing, so shush.

Then tell me where the heck in the Bible or Torah that it says it is ok to rape a girl? So far, you are the false witness that cannot reinforce your statement.

Wha? Where did I say that, liar?
But while on that topic, Sodom & Gomorrah, silly.

Have you ever even looked at the Bible? Course not. There's more to it that John 3:16 ya know...

omen that in their opinion are apostates prior to killing them, as they believe a virgin will not go to Hell.

Secondly, what does the Sephardim have to do with this? Your logic makes little sense. You spout out phrases as if I don't know what they mean and then make a very poor argument. To be honest, I don't even know what you are arguing for.

What is Sephardic taken to mean,
What does Sephardic actually mean,
Oh, and why? To both?

I ain't making an argument, you silly child, just posting facts.

You were right on one thing, I am a child. Sephardic is not a meaning, it is a race of Spanish-jews. So what does this have to do with your point earlier? Secondly, what are you even arguing for?

*le sigh*

It is not a race, or are you a Nazi?

Sepharda is from the old Hebrew for Spain.
Yet Sephardic Jews are commonly known not as Spanish, but Arab Jews. For, um, about the last 500 years.
Why is that?

Just so you know Daniel, this person is willing to liar, cheat and steal in argument. There is little point with him, he will just turn it around and turn around

I typically debate people that have open conversations. Thanks for reminding me that I'm not crazy.

Oh yeah, but this politics board this is also an insult-fest you know it's all a game of topping you see so important to know that it gets rather down and dirty as you would have seen.

Ahh, you've encountered Justin, my stalker tranny who got deleted for harrassing me last week.
I didn't know till he told me, as he has about 3 - 5 profiles to stalk me per week.

And that's just the ones you know about.

Great misdirection though. That's like a misdirection of misdirection with a deflection. Even for you that's very dishonest.

I'm out of here. Don't know when I'll be back *evil smile

Good, Justine got tired.

Yeah, it's sad to see all the fallacies and booby traps used in arguments rather than just having open conversations.

Here we go. Yes, Justin IS crazy, and then some. Psych ward returnee and everything.

imgflip.com/i/3yd15o#com4497051

I'm back. Sorry for my previous comments I was under duress. You really are a hack false King of the ad hominem aren't you.

What was the psych ward returnee, where is your evidence? As your latest viccy noticed you never provide any.

Perhaps alien autopsy. Do you really think they crashed at Roswell in the 50s. So many conflicting reports.

As far as Disclosure goes I think we are bit from there full stop it seems fairly obvious we were genetically designed by aliens what do you think vaga

Just reply to one of my comments if you want to discuss what I think about the issues I mentioned

I don't know I'm not so crazy...once you get to know me

Firstly, my name is Justine. You know is inappropriate to refer a male name.

I'm not sure I understand your reference to when people go into psych wards and institutions how that makes them less than you. To affect their credibility, I'm not sure it works that way.

Like I said yesterday you have a group of politically incorrect issues you think are ok to say and then you're really touchy feely about other issues. We know that in institutions as hypocrisy.

But then again if I'm crazy how do you know I have an imagined my travels. maybe I'm not even sure myself right now.

Oh no, I just woke up. All good to go what did you want to discuss. Somthing controversial? Religion?

Yeah, he's been arguing on here a long time I suppose And to his credit he has a lot of good ideas and some certain amount of knowledge. But over time these guys they lose their sense of what debate should be a search for the truth, right? All good

Yes, it can also be a rather fascinating study in how people are willing and want to do that. To look the part rather than be that part. In an almost reptilian, like I mean dinosaur way, to get in the opponents head. And to look the part, to other people and use them as weapons against each other. If you are looking for a study in fallacious argument this can often be one of these places. However, there is great really productive interesting and funny debate here too, so is horses for courses.

Agreed. Debating can be used as a great psychological weapon. I had never perceived it that way until after debating with Vagabond. We should be wary not imitate those actions, but fight them.

Oh, well there are worse than him, mate. Good to see the different ways people manipulate and try and find understanding. In internet arguing I have been doing since the 90s there are far worse, very dishonest people. If you are seeking the truth then you are more likely to find it. Good luck, cheers

You asked me a question, you got my answer. I am trying my best to understand what you are talking about along with keeping up, but I can't because half of what you are saying does not make any sense. If you are referring to me calling the Jews a race, then they are.

Pretty much sums up what we're dealing with when you are 'answering' what you laready have stated.

No, they are NOT a race.

Cut the crap and get to the point and let's stop wasting my time, shall we?
Answer THE questions I asked, not refer to what you already said and I already addressed.

{{We both know you know the point, and hence why you are dodging it by playing stupid. I find that sooooo adorable}}

I take it you ARE aware how the Askanzi treated the Sephardic "race" in Israel, yes?
- Wait till we get to the Ethiopians.

Okay, I'm gonna stop right here. I've done my history. It doesn't matter how much evidence I give or gave you. You shut your ears to the truth and I wasted my time. I answered the questions you asked whether it was what you wanted to hear or not. You should've "cut the crap" and had an adult conversation like everyone else in this world. Let me remind you that you didn't ONCE answer any of my questions.

Proverbs 24-25
Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.

I guess that is the take on today's discussion.

Nice dodging the questions. Deflection, so awesome. Keeps your ignorance intact.
Now go do your 10 Hail Marys and you'll be absolved.

- But not of your idiocy.

"The majority of conservatives"

Yeah, I'm not talking about them, though. I'm talking about right-wing extremists and white nationalists specifically. There are plenty of anti-Semites among them.

Source: Jewish News Syndicate, a center-right publication sympathetic to Netanyahu.

https://www.jns.org/report-far-right-white-supremacists-using-virus-to-foster-anti-semitism-online/

I'm also not here to defend anti-Semitism among Muslims. That's a big problem too.

You profess not to like labels, and yet you're one of the biggest users of them ("Leftist" being your calling-card).

Political labels can be useful as long as terms are properly-defined and not abused and distorted, as you have made it your personal project with respect to the term "Leftist."

You don't like political compasses because you don't like where they place you, I guess. You're somewhere way out here; can't really tell exactly where, since you don't answer my questions.

If it's all about the government's ability to impose their will upon others, then realistically you should be somewhere in the bottom-right corner of this chart.

Yet you are, by your own words, not an anarchist. Elsewhere, you have frequently advocated for restrictions on a woman's right to choose. And you don't really have a problem with Donald Trump's staffing of loyalists, obstruction of impeachment, firing of whistleblowers, gutting the bureaucracy, defunding international institutions, and consolidation of power, all of which places you farther up the authoritarian axis. But only if a Republican is in charge, I reckon.

Hey, I'm only bringing up left-wing "extremists" that are for assisting Muslims in war. If you are going to refer to "Republicans" as racist. Wouldn't it be fair for the right to refer to the left as terrorists?