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Trump never imposed these quarantines in the first place. Now he's wrongfully claiming the authority to lift them.

Trump never imposed these quarantines in the first place. Now he's wrongfully claiming the authority to lift them. | "When somebody is the President of the United States, the authority is total. And that's the way it's got to be — it's total," Trump said. "And the governors know that."; WRONG. The authority to require businesses to close in a public health crisis is a "police power," and it is reserved by the Constitution for the states, not the federal government. | image tagged in andrew cuomo,covid-19,constitution,us constitution,coronavirus,quarantine | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 5y
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Trump again proves his ignorance of the Constitution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cuomo-says-if-trump-tries-to-reopen-new-york-then-we-would-have-a-problem/ar-BB12C2n2?ocid=spartandhp

Beyond that, it's deliciously ironic how Trump led from behind on quarantining in the first place but is now all of a sudden claiming the authority to lift the same quarantines he never imposed in the first place.

You don't have to be a constitutional expert to realize that makes no sense.
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You're right, he never imposed them in the first place.

The same media that wanted him to impose a national shelter in place order, an order of total authority, then spins on their respective axes, and tells him he has no such power.

Now let's be reasonable. don't you think Trump was just toying with the children asking questions?

He admits he likes to stir up controversy, right? (like we needed him to admit that to know it...)
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4 ups, 5y,
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Yeah, that's who you want as a leader, a guy who toys with people and disturb shit, basically a pre pubecent teen.
2 ups, 5y,
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Twump iz a twoll pwethident, yuk yuk!
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Actually though

Your spelling could improve though
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Of course.
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WRONG! The Commerce Clause gives the Federal Government the right to ensure commerce can flow freely between states. Trump is clearly talking about "reopening the economy" not lifting any quarantines. But like CNN, you cut away and start whining without actually listening to him. The States are in violation of the Constitution.
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Powers under the Commerce Clause belong to Congress.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151195/
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Yup. Congress is a part of the Federal Government, specifically they have those powers.
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So Trump doesn't have "total power".
0 ups, 5y
I never said he did. You can see in my other reply on another meme I did mention specifically it is the power of Congress. I only said federal government to distinguish it from state governments.
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Ah yes, the Commerce Clause. The clause that gives the Federal Government the right to regulate basically anything as long as they can show some tangential connection to "interstate commerce." The Commerce Clause has been found to be pretty damn broad, but not totally unlimited.

You have inadvertently touched on one of the major topics in 1L Constitutional Law!

When it comes to Covid-19, we are in uncharted waters to an extent: Quarantines on this scale have never been seen before. I'm not aware of any rulings on point.

However, logically, the ability to impose quarantines is a decision left to state and local government under the police power. It's a health and safety measure, not a commerce measure. It does necessarily impact commerce, but it's primarily about ensuring hospitals aren't overwhelmed and citizens don't die.

Trump implicitly acknowledged this himself by not imposing quarantines in the first place. Now he wants to lift quarantines he never imposed in the first place. You don't have to be a constitutional expert to realize that makes no sense.

Even Timber admitted states/local governments were in charge of quarantines in some other thread a few days ago. I wonder what he thinks now that Trump has gone and contradicted him

Oh yeah: And MiniAppleIs is right that the Commerce Power, to the extent it exists at all in this case, would have to be exercised by Congress not the President.
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Snooze.
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"When somebody is the President of the United States, the authority is total. And that's the way it's got to be — it's total," Trump said. "And the governors know that."; WRONG. The authority to require businesses to close in a public health crisis is a "police power," and it is reserved by the Constitution for the states, not the federal government.