Finding Neverland

Don't get me wrong, I am on Israels side of this equation, but to say that all Jews must support Isreal because Jews, is just as bad as saying all Muslims support ISIS because Muslims or All Christians support the KKK because Christian.

I don't think that is an accurate comparison unless you are saying Israel is the same as ISIS and the KKK.
I dare say not all ISIS is muslim and the KKK is not Christian at all so it makes little sense to support either for those reasons. But it makes little sense to support either for any reason. I suppose the truth matters not just so long as the masses are convinced of the narrative.

I do think that people who go around calling others "Nazis" should support Israel. They put on a big show about not being racist and anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi. But then they can't even say they support Israel.
I find it rather hypocritical to say the least.

Alright let me rephrase it:

Saying all jews should support Israel is like saying all Christians should support America because Christian and all Muslims should support Saudi Arabia because Muslim.

It doesn't make sense. You should be able to criticise Israel and Palestinian without being labelled a traitor to either.

"I do think that people who go around calling others "Nazis" should support Israel. They put on a big show about not being racist and anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi. But then they can't even say they support Israel."

I don't agree with people calling other people Nazis, without good reason. I mean Neo-Nazis exist, but not everyone ypu disagree with is one.

However, just because you dislike Nazis doesn't mean you have an Obligation to support Israel

you didn't have to rephrase it, you said it perfectly lucidly in your first post. some people just don't want to hear the truth

Judaism is a religion with a very specific reference to a very specific geographic location. You can't have Judaism by taking that location out of your religion. It is why Jerusalem and Israel are mentioned in all the daily prayers and why Jews turn toward Jerusalem during specific prayers or holidays. This concept is often misunderstood by Jews who seem to only be Jewish when it is easy, convenient, and suits them.

Consider conservative Jews like myself. We NEVER turned against Israel when it was run by leftist leaders we didn't like or made policies we didn't support. Quite the opposite, it made us be more supportive of the people and organizations doing the right things. The left on the other hand, is willing to unite with those who wish to destroy Israel and commit genocide of Jews that live there, just to show how woke they are.

That is... wot? Islam was started in the Arabian peninsula and Muslims turn to the Qarbah when praying. Now where in this part does it force Muslims to support the Saudi Monarchy? Just because a religon starts in some place, hundreds or Thausands of years ago, doesn't mean people are obliged to support the Government which occupies the current place where a religon started.

Also this part where the left want to genocide Jews is as bs. as people callimg Trump Hitler

If someone said that all Muslim should be removed from and barred from Mecca; if someone said that other people have more rights to Mecca than Muslims it would be wrong, and saying it is wrong is not the same thing as supporting the Saudi Monarchy. However if Saudi Monarchy was the only thing keeping Mecca away from people who claim those things, then all Muslims should absolutely back the Saudi Monarchy over those that wish to kill all Muslims in Mecca and make Mecca a Muslim-free zone.

The left may not directly want genocide of Jews, but they back people that openly do. PLO, hamas, hesbollah, Iran …

"If someone said that all Muslim should be removed from and barred from Mecca; if someone said that other people have more rights to Mecca than Muslims it would be wrong"

Yes absolutely. But no one is proposing, atleast in America, that jews be barred entry from Jerusalem.

"However if Saudi Monarchy was the only thing keeping Mecca away from people who claim those things, then all Muslims should absolutely back the Saudi Monarchy over those that wish to kill all Muslims in Mecca and make Mecca a Muslim-free zone"

Thats the thing however, they are definetly not. Because no one is. You seem to think the Israel Palestine situation is a life or death one and requires the unconditional loyalty of all Jews to Israel. Perhaps this is correct, even so, critique should still be able to be levied without being labelled a traitor. Aside from that, the Palestinians aren't some invading force, both Jews and Palestinians have controlled and lost control of the area known as Israel and Palestine throughout history. The Palestinians have as much a right to live there as the Israelis do.

And I highly doubt Jews would be banned from entering Jerusalem. It would be a majore international incident, and I can almost guarantee Germany and on their behalf the EU probably with tge US would step in through the form of extreme Sanctions and blockades. This would probably cause another oil crisis, but still things would be done, and Jews would be allowed to enter Jerusalem.

"The left may not directly want genocide of Jews, but they back people that openly do. PLO, hamas, hesbollah, Iran …"

Oh hell no

FALSE. Get your facts straight. Just because they don't use those words exactly doesn't mean it isn't done. PLO, hamas, hesbollah - FULL REMOVAL of Jews from "Palestine" is in all of their charters, they don't hide these facts. What did free Gaza mean? It was already under PLO's full control. Free Gaza meant, all Jews had to be forcefully evicted. That's what happened, and they want to do that to all of Israel.

"And I highly doubt Jews would be banned from entering Jerusalem"

That was already the case. From 1948 to 1967 Jews were barred from Jerusalem. Now Jews are barred from parts of Jerusalem to visit or own property. Arabs can buy property anywhere they want in Jerusalem and Israel.

Yeah no.

Too stubborn to admit you were speaking out of your ass on a topic you're not educated on?

No. Its just tiring to debunk such blatant Falsehoods. And I am not in the mood.

suuuch falsehoods - lol

Yes.

There is a difference between the Israeli government and ethnic Jews. Not all ethnic Jews are religious Jews. 15% of Israel is Muslim and 2% is Christian. Gene Simmons was born in Israel. Not all religious Jews are ethnic Jews. Sammy Davis Jr would joke about being a one eyed black Jew. All this is by design so that any time anyone condemns the Israeli government, including people born and raised in Israel, they can throw around the words "racist" and "antisemitic". THAT is why parallels are drawn between the Israeli government and Nazis. "Dare not to speak against God's chosen people!"

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