Same Old Cowards, Different Masks

You, my friend, are a patriot. Upvote.

No. No, they're not.

Resisting an oppressor with violence is not the same as being the oppressor.

O. M., that is not an ideology. These are disgruntled psychos who use the excuse of protest to be violent in order to maim others. They are a hate group and should be dealt with as such. The only consideration they deserve is prison time.

And the thing is:

If patriotic Americans would apply the same tactics&methods against these scumbags they would round them up and be done with that rabble all over the country within a month or so.

But they simply can't afford it because
They are working people that have jobs to lose - Antifa assholes don't.
They are husbands and fathers that have families and children to care about - whereas Antifa assholes don't care about growing a family.

Thus provocation being a main tactics of Antifa decent Americans have a lot to lose whereas Antifa mob feel free to provoke decent people into having a cow, losing self-control & then haul them to court and to jail.

giving that mob any leeway and refusing consequences is grossly negligent
The only implication can be to outlaw and jail them.

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"The only implication can be to outlaw and jail them."

Also "The American Nazi Party" They literally have the word Nazi in their name.

Did you know that picture is actually from the 1924 /Democratic/ National Convention, which was also known as "Klanbake"?

Do you have an actual /credible/ source for that?

I'm willing to concede that the picture may have nothing (or little) to do with the DNC convention of 1924, I simply asked you for a /credible/ source, which WaPo most certainly isn't.

Flake nooze, yo.

You're willing to concede it because YOU LOOKED IT UP.
So quite your lying. Your 'credibility' is for shite.

Did you know that the KKK voted Republican in 2016 and that I still want them Banned?

This is about ANTIFA: If you want to open up a discussion about KKK make a meme but dont use KKK as a strawman to legitimate Antifa or deflect the debate. two bads don't make a good.

Isn't this a meme showing both the KKK and Antifa as equals? Jeez!

Your deliberate idiocy sure doesn't help either.

Your the one saying we should an Antifa. I am the one saying you should ban the KKK first

whatever

Link Doesn't work for me :/

But I am sure its something insulting XD

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Aha

"Did you know that the KKK voted Republican in 2016"

We've had this discussion before. There's no way to know who KKK members voted for without being in illegal possession of 2016 voting records. David Duke /most likely/ voted Republican, but only because it's pretty much expected for people to vote for themselves when they're in the running.

As for the rest of the KKK, you can't definitively say they voted Republican, any more than I can definitively say they're tools of, and voted for, Democrats. I'll grant that them voting Republican is more likely on the face of it, and that my theory is a bit of a stretch (though not an impossible one). However, you need to stop claiming you know for absolute certain how they voted, because you don't. (not without illegally possessing the aforementioned voting records.)

Simple way to clarify your confusion:

🔘 WHO did YOU vote FOR?

🔘 WHY?

🔘 Which pocket in your robe is your Democrat Party Membership card in?

You're welcome.

"There's no way to know who KKK members"

Thankfully, they parade around their support for Trump then

"my theory is a bit of a stretch "

Quite a bit

"Thankfully, they parade around their support for Trump then"

And if I paraded around waving signs of support for Hillary, would you suddenly believe I planned to vote for her?

You didn't actually look up the term "Moby" on urban dictionary like I suggested, did you? Here, I'll do it for you:

"Top definition

moby

An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question.

The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge: “For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you’re an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion. Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, ‘What’s all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?’” "

My theory is that the KKK is a live version of that, and it's not that big a stretch. If you look at American history everything actively, objectively bad that has happened to American blacks has happened under the dems; slavery, the founding of the KKK, Jim Crow, attempts to defeat the civil rights act... and even with all that, black families were finally starting to prosper.

Then there's the so-called "switch", where dems became the supposed "progressive" party, and black families started REgressing again, and blacks have gotten consistently poorer ever since, not to mention the disintegration of the black family. Just about all of the poorest places in the country (ie inner cities/projects/ghettos) are in democrat controlled areas, and they have gotten steadily worse ever since the supposed "switch".

"And if I /didn't/ support her and was a member of the KKK, it would be the number one way to harm her campaign."

Yeah, but it wouldn't make sense since Hillarys Ideals and Goals don't match with that of the KKK

"You say that like I wasn't the first one to admit it's a stretch. But it's not a /huge/ stretch, in fact it's entirely plausible."

Yes yes. At least you acknowledge that it sounds bonkers. It certainly is Plausible, just not probable.

Well Trump isn't the one who called a former grand cyclops of the KKK an old family friend, nor is he the one who called black gang members "superpredators".

In fact it could be argued that until the most recent election, democrat ideals DID align with the KKK, since they were big on border security and deportation, especially Obama, who built those "concentration camps" AOC is all miffed about.

"In fact it could be argued that until the most recent election, democrat ideals DID align with the KKK"

No. No it could not. And you'd be willfully ignoring a lot of things fr that to happen

"especially Obama, who built those "concentration camps""

True, but geuss how many families were separated in them. Or How many even were in your little discount KZs.

The flatulence you spew could fuel the US for years.

"And if I paraded around waving signs of support for Hillary, would you suddenly believe I planned to vote for her?"

If you did support her that would be the number one way to show others that you do

"moby"

Again, your theory that the KKK is actually a left wing organisation sent to make you look bad is quite the strech.

He's obviously a Russbot. And an exceptionally ridiculous one at that. This is beyond trolling, plus it's totally humorless.

"If you did support her that would be the number one way to show others that you do"

And if I /didn't/ support her and was a member of the KKK, it would be the number one way to harm her campaign.

"Again, your theory that the KKK is actually a left wing organisation sent to make you look bad is quite the strech"

You say that like I wasn't the first one to admit it's a stretch. But it's not a /huge/ stretch, in fact it's entirely plausible.

That picture is actually from the 1924 /Democratic/ National Convention, which was also known as "Klanbake".

I know. No need to repeat yourself

Why are you answering me here, I wasn't talking to you with that post, was I? That was a reply to ArcMis.

thx - I got it.

Whoops

ah ok, no worries.

moron

Again, at the time and from my screen it looked like he had responded to me. All I can do is say, Whoops.

Doesn't disprove my argument in the slightest. In fact, it only strengthens it. The KKK has been around for far longer than Antifa, but Antifa gets a bit riled up and the Right is already crying Ban, but ignore clearly Racist and clearly Nazi organisations? No. You either Ban the KKK alongside Antifa, or you Ban no one.

Yeah but they're just as bad.

Not /yet/, and even that's uncertain. I heard something about someone being killed by antifa, but I haven't been able to find any stories about it (which is not that surprising either way), so I have no evidence of anything.

As for bombing building, again arguable. They've /torched/ buildings, using molotov cocktails.

In any case, as we've discussed before, the point is that they're rapidly escalating the violence, and you damn well know it. They're not friggin' Batman, with a code to "maim but not kill" (as if "just" maiming was somehow ok), they're psychos working themselves up to greater and greater acts of violence, and they don't actually care who gets hurt as long as they can feel self-important.

I see them as more of a threat because they have mainstream support.

That literally doesn't matter. If someone wants to commit Murder or Terrorism, the Support or disapprove of the MSM won't matter. Take it from me. In Germany just last couple of weeks a Right-Wing Terrorist Organisation, called "Revolution Chemnitz" was arrested for trying to instigate "Revolutionary Conditions" in Berlin and blame it on the left. And a few weeks before that a CDU Politican, Walter Lübke, President of the Government in the district of Kassel, was murdered by an NPD Supporter. And does the MSM in Germany support these Right Wing Terrorists? No. Does that stop anyone? No.

Do you want me to show the dead body of Walter Lübke? And did I not just say they planned a /revolt/? Sure Antifa isn't innocent, but hardly our prime concern.

don't bullshit. The Lubke case is under investigation. No conviction. Arrested guy set free. stop spreading rumors.

"The Lubke case is under investigation."

Yes, but the Guy, who plead Guilty may I remind you, has clear connections to the NPD. And the Murder has also clear markings of a Political one

"No conviction."

True, but his defense is weak and the evidence mounting

"Arrested guy set free."

When? As Far as I and all Media in Germany knw he is still in Court and U-Haft

"pleaded guilty" - he revoked.

Indeed he did, it can and will be used against him. Most Experts agree its just a negotiating tactic used by his new Lawyer. Face the facts, buddy. Your side also has extremists. Everyone does. It just so happens yours are more active then ours

couldn't care less.

Your country, not mine, so you'd know better, but didn't Hitler have mainstream support during his rise to power, primarily through misleading people about his agenda, claiming to be all about socialism?

"didn't Hitler have mainstream support during his rise to power,"

No actually the NSDAP entry into the Weimar Parliament was as unexpected as Trump's Victory. Hitler took over basically all media only after the 1933 Enabling Act which basically ended German Democracy at the time.

"claiming to be all about socialism"

He couldn't have been more clearer that he hated Socialists, famously remarking t Otto Wels, leading Social Democrat and only oppositional to the enabling act that he would build Germany to a greater nation. Just without him or His Socialist buddies( Altho the SPD had quite a beef with the Socialists and Communists)

Antifa left unchecked will be 50x worse than the KKK.

Thats a record that'l be hard to beat, but fair point. Any organisation, be they Government, Corporation or Private Organisation, that is left unchecked has the potential for disaster