4. The people who came to Europe would more accurately be called settlers.

The Europeans didn't really consider themselves as Americans from arriving there it took some decades until the concept of Americans had came and land was seized as a new country

The notion of United Statians going by "American" is a product of post-Civil War reconstruction.
America is not a country, it's the Western Hemisphere.
In fact, South America was called America first.

I doubt it. Republicans don't want illegal immigrants because it's cheating, regardless of their hard luck situation. Do you think if you import every 3rd world person into north America, Europe and Australia that any would benefit from it? Why do democrats acknowledge the impact illegal immigration has on black communities if your side professes to fight for oppressed minorities?

Well, then you're like alot of those on the right, that have no problem with merit based immigration that betters the country instead of draining it.

A lawsuit has been filed in California by black Americans who can't work in fast food restaurants because they can't speak Spanish. But that's the point, no one, on either side, really, looks into it.

Ocatavia Melody, there are Americans who are doing poorly. In the Democrat-ran sanctuary cities, there are homeless Americans, homeless veterans, hungry American children, and illegals getting all of the help they should be getting.

Hardly

Doesn’t matter, you’re Democratic Party is putting illegals ahead of Americans.

Hardly? How silly are you?

Have you no clue why rural areas are rural and an economic drain on the Federal Goverment?
(HINT: Walk to your nearest mansion and ask why)

Most of the mansions are in your Democrat areas

What does that even mean? "your Democrat areas"? Are these exclusive to only them?

You haven't seen housing bigger than a 'deluxe' doubled up trailer in your life, have you?

I am sick of black people telling me I am taking their job. Not even illegal. Can we just bring all 184 million people in Latin America that are under poverty so that they can better themselves? It will not have any impact in the U.S economy! We will not take anyone's jobs!

The Democrats fight to oppress minorities and keep them on their plantation

Who did exactly what for black Americans? Besides creating more division after what could have been a healing moment?

Racists came out of the woodwork my ass. Obama was the most divisive president in a lifetime. He divided this country down every demographic in the book. It isn’t the GOP, it is the Democrats who make minorities out like they are too stupid to be able to decide things for themselves. That everything wrong with them is the fault of the “evil GOP.” Democrats never changed their tactics. They just found newer ways to keep minorities on their plantations. They are just as evil and racist as they were in 1860.

Talk about your ass, as in in straight from.....

How, exactly, did Obama do that? By not stepping back to his 'place' and letting a non-Mulatto to be President instead so as to not offend your delicate sensibilities?

You know many Democrat plantations? Are those in them big cities y'all keep whining about?

Yes asshole, most of them are.

Really, they found the most radical, only 35% black person they could find.

I love how he dumped the part Japanese girl he was seeing to marry Big Mike for political reasons I'm sure you can figure out. I personally think he did the same, outwardly, with his religion.

Unlike Trump, who actually gave them the lowest unemployment in their history here.

Forgot to add it's not just Republicans, Democrats are also complicit.
Illegals are here for cheap labor, and both parties allow and foster it.

Yep, Trump promised to sign an executive order ending chain migration, among other things, and hasn't done it.

The Moslem ban too. Those ones where the terrorists come from weren't banned, and the ones that were coincidentally just so happen to be broke nations with negligible economic dealings wth us. It's like not inviting Joey Pothead to the wedding. Sure, it's mean, but he's too broke to rent a tux and he's just gonna pass out anyways, so who the frig cares?

Chain migration, like the rest of them, crack me up. Starving refugees on the verge of getting killed suddenly have the money to get here plus miraculously not get killed en route. Must've be all the Hail Marys they say walking here that protected them.
LIke surely everything between here and Tierra del Fuego can't be that bad. What do they have against Chile or Costa Rica?

But with chain migration, don't you have family in the US that can finance them?

Same deal, if they can afford to do that, they can afford to just send the money there where they can live like kings on next to nothing.

They're not refugees, not even economic refugees. It takes a lot of money to get here. These are just greedy bloodsuckers looking to make an American buck. Like everyone else in the US, they ditch family, friends, country for an house in the burbs with 2 SUVs to look cute in.

And we wonder why Americans are the most self obsessed people on Earth who are too busy pointing and spitting at each other rather than living by they ideals we pretend to cling to and do something for each other and for America other than take take take while cheating on our taxes.

We're parasites also, dependent on a constant influx of people hungry enough to clean our toilets and send their kids to college so we can pretend we're still technologically superior to the rest of the dingbats on this planet who are too stupid to do the same back home for themselves.

FACT: While the children of immigrants do better than their parents and their fellow Americans, by the 3rd generation here they slip to the levels of their American counterparts, reflected by lesser school grades and even lower IQs. Yes, simply being born here for a couple of generations lowers IQs.

*don't

1986 Reagan signed a law granting amnesty to THREE MILLION illegals.
He later issued Executive Order granting the same to the spouses and children of those not covered by the law.
George HW Bush did the same for others (1.4million?) not covered.
His son wanted to make it easier for people to go back and forth across the border for work, and wanted to grant amnesty to millions more (was it 10?).

Like Reagan, he said he'd be handing the Republican Party all these thankful new voters. Full benefits IMMEDIATLY, even Social Security benefits to illegals who never paid into it.

The 1986 law was also supposed to punish those who still hired illegals. Of course, this was never enforced, just as similar laws already on the books never were.
They're never enforced for a reason - $8 for a slice of pizza sucks, double what you pay to fill'er up at the gas station is not cute, and do you know what those cheap groceries you buy which end up tossed out half the time would cost if you had to hire Americans who won't even pick your strawberries for minimum wage (let alone the far less illegals earn) would cost? Who's going to do our hard labor so we can spend the company dime memeing away in our airconditioned cubicles?

Being a fat & lazy American IS the American Dream, and cheap labor from South of the Border is the key.

50 kids? YOUR dime?

And yes, it was THOSE illegal aliens.
Google if your book reading skillz are stuck in the shop.

I was being rhetorical. I was pointing out how many of these illegals have too many kids. And yes, MY DIME. My taxes pay for their food stamps, WIC, healthcare, housing, education, DACA, etc.

You were? Good, 'cause that amount of birthing would change the minds of many an anti-abortionist.

Nope, MY dime pays for YOUR economically stagnant and dependent State's benefits and municipal service.

Illegal aliens are not eligible food stamps, WIC, healthcare, housing.
How does anyone pay for DACA? Are you remotely aware of the meaning of any of the nonsense you spew out of your bloated ass?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-yorks-mayor-de-blasio-vows-health-care-for-all--including-undocumented-immigrants/2019/01/08/415db55a-1358-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/undocumented-la-county-parents-projected-to-receive-650m-in-welfare-benefits/

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article222566770.html

Illegal aliens are not eligible food stamps, WIC, healthcare, housing STILL.
How does anyone pay for DACA? Are you remotely aware of the meaning of any of the nonsense you spew out of your bloated ass?

That includes proposals (let's see how de Blasio proposes paying the enormous cost for that fake one), and projections.

Took you a whole day to find nothing to prove your lies.
Wonder why.

It made it quite clear that they are in places like LA. I guess you cannot read, libtard.

Since clearly you didn't even read the titles, let alone the articles, it is rather apparent that:

1. You're not even pretending to be stupid.

2. Inbreeding works.

3. Stupidity can't be stopped.

4. You have an IQ level low enough to have voted for Trump.

5. You are one deliriously (albiet unintentionally) funny moron.

Okay you libtarded piece of shit. You just can’t get reason.

You mad, b!tchboi?

This pleases me.

Idiot.

What kind of question is that? It is about national security and sovereignty. We have become a dumping ground for the problems of countries from south of the border. Just a fact and we’re sick and tired of it.

Sure. Safety and economic reasons. I know strong countries have always exploited weaker countries and the governments in these countries are corrupt beyond belief. I'm sure had I been born in Guatemala, I'd want to leave for any 1st world country. But how will countries like that improve when you have a constant brain drain?

the man in the picture is chalmers Johnson,former CIA and professor,who wrote a trilogy of books starting with "blowback" in which he chronicles the US state departments interference in other nations.

his main theme was the dangers of empire,and how US policy would inevitably create a "blowback".the man practically predicted 9/11.

but more to the point of this meme,and why Johnson is relevant.
he laid out quite specifically US policy interventions across all of latin and south America,beginning at the turn of the century.

even as I am writing this,american foreign policy supports 73% of worldwide dictators.

so,in conclusion,i am postulating that the majority of reasoning behind this mass migration,is of our own doing.WE created the situation.

see also:general Smedley butler's book "war is a racket".

We did? I would argue no. These countries have been corrupt for a long time. They are coming because Democrats are promising them sanctuary and freebies.

But they still have elected governments. Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador. We are not responsible to these people.

And I am guessing Mr. Johnson is another liberal Democrat. Moving on.

me:the sky is awfully blue today
you:shut up lying lefty! it is not!

what does political affiliation have to do with historical facts by a professor and former CIA analysts ya muppet!

Because the people of these countries have had plenty of opportunities to make their countries better. We owe these people nothing. How about a little compassion for Americans for a change?

Well Americans are suffering because of these illegals

so we do we abdicate our responsibility to see things truthfully?
even if that truth is uncomfortable?
sometimes people look too hard for the easy answer,or are too quick to blame.

but reality is often far more nuanced and complicated.

so i am not suggesting an easy answer,all i am suggesting is to look at the situation honestly,because only then we can we really deal with the problem.

my personal view is the moderate approach.
protect our borders and ports.
create a fair path to citizenship.
i know many are gung ho about the wall,but almost %80 fly in and overstay their visa.our own DHS has asked for more agents,clerks and judges to expedite back-logged cases,and deal with those who overstay their visas.

build the wall,if only for my fellow americans piece of mind,and hire more people to deal with the overstayers,

there are rules,let's follow them.
and maybe let's stop interfering with other countries and deal with our own.

I would like to, but I have my own problems. You really think Democrats would give two shits about illegal aliens if they were
a potential Republican voting bloc? Seriously. The borders are busting at the seams right now because of Democrats who invite them here with promises of freebies. That is happening at the border right now. This isn’t about people overstaying Visas. They have elected governments in the countries these people are coming from, it is time they work to better their own countries. Also how do you explain the 60% of aliens who are Mexican?

Mexican immigration has been a net-zero since 2009

Nope, not what the OP said. At all. The OP, in point #3 clearly said if illegal immigrants voted Republican, then Democrats would close the border. He did not say Republicans wouldnt object to illegals if they voted Republican. You lose.

Is that why the section of Trump's wall he so proudly displayed being built was actually authorized and started and paid for by the Obama Administration?

I didn't catch that. I don't think all dems only care about them mostly voting dem. Some care about the plight of them, some just want to virtue signal. But I bet if you looked at the immigrations that waited 10 years to get into America, a high % vote Republican.

The USofA had become a dumping ground for Britain's criminal class during colonization. THAT'S why Australia became a penal colony AFTER the Revolution was over. Once it became clear they could no longer dump their unwanted human waste here, they had to ship them there.

Where do you think (pardon the potentially racist part of the term) white trash and its proclivity for violence and fascination with shooting guns came from? A lack of suitable hobbies to relieve their excessive boredom in the southern sun? It's called culture (some even argue a possible genetic component predisposing them to such tendencies), passed on through the centuries from generation to generation.

That must be why the British made this country the greatest in the world. Sorry, but if you look at the countries south of the border they all have one thing in common: Third world crapholes. Africa is the same. Basically speaking, white European countries have been the economic centers of the world for over 3 millennia for a reason (and yes I know east Asia is too), but outside of East Asia, the US, Canada and Australia, the rest of the world is largely third world. Now, I don’t apologize for speaking truth here, you can kiss my ass. If you want to care more about illegal aliens than your own family go ahead, just don’t put them on my bill.

Three millenia? MILLENIA? Not a single European country existed three millenia ago.
Three millenia ago you'd have to go further East.

The British used the American penal colonies chiefly for lumber, having run low on availability in Europe. Navies and merchant shipping require lumber. The cleared ground was then used for farming. Other than that, the colonies did what again? Oh, almost forgot that Earth shaking beaver pelt industry, also almost wiped out in Europe. Golly.

The fortunes of European countries have been fading since what again? Which countries had booms in the last HALF millenia? Why?
That's right, you got it, those that became prosperous did so by plundering elsewhere. Portugal, Spain, France, Britain. Resource availability in colonies declines, so does the market dependent on them, so does their prominence on the world stage.
Spain as the most powerful and richest nation coinciding with its encounter and colonization of the Americas was not accidental. It's current status as a has been is likewise not accidental. France is a joke, and even funnier is Portugal, once master of the World - again, not coincidentally coinciding when it realized Africa extended further south than the Sahara and that Asia waited on the other side of that continent.

Westward expansion in the US found not just more timber, but silver, gold, oil. If we had not stolen half of Mexico, we would not have acquired those commodities, and thus would not have been able to profit from them. Welcome to capitalism. Demand is irrelevent without supply. Early on the USA didn't even have enough precious metals to make sufficient coins for use. The US Dollar - down the concept of the Quarter - is based on the Mexican Peso, not the British Pound, know why? That was the money we used here.

Yes, back to the motherland, Britain. In the space of a generation they went from the greatest empire the world had ever seen to the 51st of United States. Have a clue why? Lost its colonies, lost its bucket of pixie dust.

Like to use your Google Calculate App to figure out which Federation in the Americas has been in decline since the 1950s? Dependent on a gluttonous consumer base, and the import of aliens for cheap labor and economic growth - responsible for 70% of all small business starts - as well as brains - science, med, tech research and development carried out by people from the Middle East, India, East Asia, Africa, etc because people like you are too busy taking selfies at Walmart.

I just rounded up more or less. Sorry if I cannot be precise enough for you. You have yet to give me any good reason why we should leave the borders wide open... other than giving your Democratic Party more votes.

Rounded up more or less?
Look up European history 3000 years ago (HINT: There wasn't any).

Leave the borders open? Why, because you're too lazy to do any labor or get an education and do something with your trailer trash life?

MY Democratic Party? Cool, wasn't aware I owned one.
Is it like the other one?
Can I sell it?

Scroll up and see what I said about Reagan and the Bush's millions of illegals made into citizens.

Reagan and Bush were wrong

Well lookatchu, you've finally learned something.

VagabondSouffle Doesn't know real history. She just makes stuff up. Australia was founded as a penal colony. The US was founded as a colony of Britain. The pilgrims were not criminals. If they started using the American colony as a dumping ground for prisoners it didn't make up most of the colony. what happened over 300 years ago is irrelevant and doesn't excuse in any way, Mexico and the other countries south of the border dumping their problems on us. They are not using as a penal colony. They don't have permission to dump their problems here. That is the big difference. You open borders people are the problem.

Gaagh, you said "she," so therefore your bullshit has gained some sort of qualitity suitable for framing because being a she is an issue for you and your lovely undescended testicles.

Read a book and learn something, because being intentionally stupid does not make you any less stupid.

STFU you libtarded little piece of shit. Stay in school.

Triggered much, MzMrsnotMr?
This please me.

Now go wipe your tears off your bib, idiot, and read that book.

Kiss my ass

No, MrMrs cis, I'll pass on that pimply bowl of jello you fart your so-called thoughts from.

Get to bed you have school in the morning

Sure thing, you butthurt lonely old hag.