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3,406 views 60 upvotes Made by jkamm 6 years ago in politics
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7 ups, 6y
Yay Trump
7 ups, 6y,
2 replies
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Love our President !
2 ups, 6y
Its gonna be Beau Bidden
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3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Anyone that loves a politician is certifiable and should not be allowed to vote. Smh
4 ups, 6y
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1 up, 6y
Good old Nancy Pelosi | IMPOSSIBLE! DON'T SAY WE DIDN'T TRY! | image tagged in good old nancy pelosi | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1 up, 6y,
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cite your image bro im not dumb
2 ups, 6y,
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yes you are very dumb. It is a play off a popular meme template, saying that Trump is being stubborn over the wall
0 ups, 6y,
1 reply
bruh how am i dumb for knowing the image is stolen i saw it on twitter unless that guy stole the image/ is the person who posted it on twitter bro
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
it is a meme site repost whiner
0 ups, 6y
yeah but it's stealing it would be different if he made his own version of the same image
1 up, 6y
I know you guys can't do math. $5 billion won't even get construction started.
I know you guys can't learn from history. Your wall will never get built.

You know that meme about then Senators Clinton & Obama voting for a big fence? That's true. They did vote for it. And it never got built.

Do you know why?

Because the vast majority of the land along the Texas/Mexico border isn't owned by the Federal Government. It's owned by private citizens. Ranchers that use the river to water their herds. The Fed Gov offered them money for their land. They refused.

Because building the fence would take up 90% of their land AND cut off access to the only source of water for their herds. Their lives & livelihood would be destroyed by the barrier. They didn't want to give up everything and go start a new life somewhere else.

Then the Government tried to use Eminent Domain to seize their lands.

The ranchers took the Fed Gov to court. The ranchers won. The Fed was blocked from seizing their lands.

Like I said, you can't do math. $5 billion won't even get things started.
You can't learn from history. This was already decided over 10 years ago.

The wall will never be built.
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4 ups, 6y,
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Can you point to one thing he has changed his mind on?
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4 ups, 6y,
1 reply
quite a list there. impressive
3 ups, 6y,
1 reply
But of course even attempting to answer is a waste if time. When you ask a rhetorical question like that, it is clear you will never be satisfied. Even if Trump changed his mind on lot if different occasions, you would then call him a hypocrite or a flip-flopper.
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5 ups, 6y,
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The divorces probably weren't his decision.
The lock her up thing won't be his decision anyway.
Concrete wall... he just said that wasn't a requirement to begin with.
Syria, he knows more than the Generals.
Firing the best is comical because he only hires the best.
I don't know why I bother with his blind followers
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5 ups, 6y,
1 reply
Was that a reply to you? No it wasn't
1 up, 6y,
1 reply
You're right, your whole post was you debunking my previous post... How could I possibly think you might be referring to me...
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5 ups, 6y
Yeah.
0 ups, 6y
You know what I don’t understand?
4 ups, 6y,
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7 ups, 6y,
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1. I think the majority of smugglers get it in using a car/truck/SUV driven through legal checkpoints.. maybe some by boat.. (although I'm sure some amount comes in with illegals)
2. If the wall is steel slats simply hand bags through the space.
3. If the wall is concrete, throw it over.
4. Tunnel under whatever type of wall.
5. More of a side note but I have a feeling virtually no crack is smuggled in.. it comes in as coke and then is cooked into crack once in America.
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4 ups, 6y
You are on the right track, alot of the drugs come thru both legal and illlegal entry, shipping containers, planes etc, when you wanna move large quantaties, walking 100 kilos just doesnt do it thru the desert across the Rio Grande, thats heavy and far.
2 ups, 6y,
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1 drug mules come via many ways. Yes many of drugs come in by tractor trailer after "NAFTA" was signed (see netflix docu series "Narcos" they do a good job explaining it, plus its a great show)
2, True but many mules swallow the drugs in condoms and crap them out later, a slated fence will keep the mule from coming over at least.
3.Make it higher and have cameras. why should we make it easy for them?
4, Tunnels are hard to build, yes they still do it, but it makes the work for them 1000xs harder to get drugs over. we can put colums of rebar under the wall like a fence in the dirt kinda. We can also put sensors similar to seismic sensors that pickup larger disturbances like tunnel digging. They have come down in price but this was why the wall is 5 bil not 4 bil. Was listening to a NPR program on it, pros/cons etc, Bottom line is, why should we make it easy on them? I live in Delco Pa outside philly, drug OD is now the number 1 killer of all ppl in my area under the age of 60.
5 Yes Crack is made here but is made from Coke, but Coke plant is only found in south america . Plus I wanted to use a funny meme and as far as I know, Chappel never did a coke head bob skit.choices were limited
1 up, 6y,
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According to Reuter, most drugs come through legal ports of entry. I loved that show Narcos. and about the wall, look at the wall between India and Bangladesh and how well that worked. that wall is more like our border than Isreals.
1 up, 6y,
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and? they built an almost complete wall.
2 ups, 6y,
3 replies
are we going to go in rivers? over mountains?
0 ups, 6y
"Ours is gonna be betterer that theirs, and yuger too, and with Walmarts every 10 miles too!"
1 up, 6y
whatever it takes. The core says it can be done
1 up, 6y,
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hey look at it this way, if u dont like trump and it doesnt work you can almost rest assured that the Dems will win in 2020(unless they run shillary again) and if it does work it will lower crime.win win. the us gov spends 5 bil in 12.5 hrs.
0 ups, 6y
If it doesn't work the Dems will have given Trump a worthless 5 billion dollar trophy wall that he stated over and over again that Mexico will pay for... and worse, they will have also taught him that he can get whatever he wants by shutting down the government. Trump and the other 2 branches of govt had 2 years to do their wall and they didn't .. the border is not an emergency and I hope Dems continue not giving him a penny.
0 ups, 6y,
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yeah. that why i think, lets just give the 5 bil and turn our govt back on. the dems have to be the bigger ones and just give it
0 ups, 6y
whatever it takes. like I said, if Trump is right it helps us citz, if he is wrong, the dems win in 2020 win/win 4 u
1 up, 6y,
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1. Yes, many ways.. but the majority of drugs entering the US is not on the back of drug mules illegally crossing the border.
2. The quantity of drugs that someone could actually swallow could easily be handed through wall slats.. but even if they did opt for swallowing it, again... the swallowed amount that a physical wall could theoretically stop is almost laughable in comparison to the amount driven through legal points of entry.
3. because it's not cost/effective and I tend to think this whole thing isn't about illegals or drugs or American security at all.. it's just politics. Repubs owned all 3 branches of govt for the past 2 years and did nothing but now, 1 year away from 2020..omg emergency!! the wall needs to be built!
4a. Let's say they spend $50 billion building a 40 foot wall with all kinds of electronic bells and whistles and shut down Mexican drug smuggling via mules on foot (meanwhile the majority of drugs continues going through legal points).. what will happen? The price of illegal drugs will (maybe) go up a fraction of a percent due to fractionally less supply.. (?)
4b. Unless they were crack babies or otherwise forced, drug use was their choice.. they may have had existing mental problems that led them to believe smoking crack would be a good idea in the first place but that is a separate issue which (imo) would be a better use of funds than spending more money on the wall.
5. True
2 ups, 6y,
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only have time to respond to #2 now, thought this meme fits it perfect lol
3 ups, 6y
Ok idk why you're stuck on butt condoms..lol
xD
But no.. youre misinterpreting what I mean. You said a slated wall would keep someone out who swallowed drugs. My point is the amount that someone can swallow seems pretty small. Building a billion dollar wall to maybe stop or deter such a small amount seems like a waste of time, money, and possibly military time (we'll see if it ends up going there)..
IF someone was going to do your method of swallowing it, driving through legal entries would seem infinitely less risky, considerably faster than on foot, and a 50 foot cement wall would literally do nothing to stop it.
2 ups, 6y
maybe we should legalize weed, treat it like alky and the dea can focus more on the harder stuff? Legal weed dealers still have a tough time collecting non cash payments , credit cards etc. That part is still illegal. saw a report where trump was actually looking into it to make the payments legal.
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2 ups, 6y,
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1. Wrong
2. Fair concern. The amount most try to smuggle would take a considerable amount of time to pass through the wall, however. The cameras would pinpoint their locations and BP would be on top of them before they could smuggle any significant amounts.
3. See 2, and nobody involved in smuggling is going to be that strong.
4. Sonic sensors so sensitive the can detect mouse farts are going to be incorporated into the wall. See 2.
5. Yes, but the meme still works.
3 ups, 6y,
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1. Feel free to prove me wrong
3. Two pounds of meth could easily be thrown over a 20' wall and be worth ~$100k street level
2.&4. You seem to have forgotten I am responding to a meme about a WALL.. not electronics. Try to stay on topic.
2. 3. & 4. That is why I'm correct about the first one. Smugglers prefer legal points of entry. Slapping it on the back of a mule or network of mules crossing on foot for however many days overcoming a wall, past cameras, sonic sensors, border patrol, drones, helicopters etc undetected seems like a far greater risk than simply driving it through a legal point of entry concealed in a vehicle.
3 ups, 6y,
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1. if 100% of smugglers use legal border crossings, 100% of smuggler arrests will be at legal border crossings.
2. You discussing this in terms of a vehicle's trunk load seems ironic considering your position. I agree 30' could be difficult.. but the existing wall is 21' at most and most men are already at least 5' so really you'd really only have to throw it about 16 ft above your head. Impact package testing could be done prior to this using dirt or other equally dense material instead of the product.
3. unless Trump declares the current net outflow of poor Mexican migrants a national emergency, I have a feeling there will be no wall.. but maybe I'm wrong.
2 ups, 6y,
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As I stated the majority of drugs comes in through legal entry points. Building a billion dollar wall to prevent a fraction of drugs from coming in is illogical and I believe the only thing it will do as far as drugs is raise the price a tiny fraction.. if that. it seems to me $50k worth of product would be worth the price of testing a couple hollowed out baseballs filled with dirt.. but ya.. the best way would be to swallow it and simply drive through legal crossings.
3. You don't exactly have the best track record at predicting the future, but I guess we'll see.
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1 up, 6y,
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1. Again, your statement is wrong. Most of the drugs seized are captured at legal entry points. Why? Because that's where all the Border Patrol is! That doesn't mean that most of the drugs pass through legal entry points.

Passing baseball sized amounts of drugs means nothing. I don't think you understand what drug smuggling is... They often refer to the amount of marijuana seized in "tons". Cocaine and heroin seizures can weigh 50lbs-100lbs. That's a lot of volume. As a smuggler, you don't take the chance of losing even 1lb of that stuff. Throwing it over a wall is out of the question.

Again, passing it through the wall is going to take time that smugglers don't have. Anything that comes near the wall will be detected by camera's and whatnot and BP agents will be directed to start heading that way instantly.

If you think drug smuggling is shoving a condom of powder up your butt, well, it shows how much you know about the border issues.

3. All I've ever got wrong is the date of the arrests. I've given up, but they're coming. Just like the wall.

Looks like Trump is getting another supreme court judge. That's going to help lock um up :)
0 ups, 6y,
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1. You're talking to me about literally TONS of drugs and all these cameras and ground sensors.. but you think most of that weight is coming here on foot?? You think a wall is gonna stop the cars trucks boats planes with kilos coming here? No.. it will only (possibly) stop a handful of small timers.. The ones who might consider throwing it over the wall, through the slats, carrying backpacks, or Redbarron's condom idea... not top level million dollar cartel smugglers.
3. If it doesn't work out that way, I'll send you a free roll of tinfoil.
;P
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0 ups, 6y
Trucks will be stopped by walls. Explain to me how you think a million dollar cartel can smuggle drugs in at the same rate if there is an actual barrier.

I wan't that roll either way. Name brand, none of that cheap shit.
0 ups, 6y
As I stated.. through legal entry points. If I am the cartel, I'm investing in vehicles with hidden compartments, vaccum sealed containers of whatever drug is most profitable, making tire shop connections and finding legit businesses that require vehicles coming through legal points on a pretty regular basis among however many thousands of other vehicles also going through the legal points of entry ...
What I'm not doing is buying a truck trying to randomly cross whatever areas that have no wall.. id assume if a drone, helicopter, camera, sensor, or border patrol agent on the ground sees some random truck traveling north anywhere near the border in an area with no wall, that truck would automatically be suspect. But hey maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the cartel blasts through the desert in trucks packed with drugs.. idk
2 ups, 6y
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3 ups, 6y,
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You're not! Hooray!
3 ups, 6y
exactly
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