Dwight Schrute

by a lot

that's pol pot btw

If thats the case, saddam would be up there too.

I haven't seen the figures, but I wouldn't be surprised.

And before you go, "You're just an atheist liberal!", I should tell you that I'm an Independent who couldn't give two shits about what anyone believes in, so long as they don't hurt anyone over it.

Why wouldn't an egomaniacal psychopathic nationalist like Hitler play off of the religious faith of the masses?

Being a Christian (also a political independent) who is very faithful and very serious about my faith, having studied the Christian faith for over a decade, I can tell you that "identifying as a Christian" doesn't make someone a Christian. At the bare minimum you actually have to live by the tenets of the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, in order to be considered a Christian. Then by Jesus' own words there are fundamental central doctrines that one must confess to be a Christian. Hitler didn't even meet the minimum.

I am an atheist and I bring these people up all the time when people say "religion is the cause of most wars." It's a patently false statement. Mao, Pol Pot, and Stalin were atheists. Hitler was a little more complicated. He believed in the occult. He tried to have the pope killed. He was raised as a Catholic, somewhere along the way, something changed.

I wasn't really trying to argue that religion starts wars, I was just saying that he was raised Catholic. As I said earlier, I couldn't give two shits about what anyone believes.

*Siege of Leningrad intensifies*

Lol

Same old BS being sent round, without the intelligence to understand what they were told......The Nazis weren't atheists and Hitler was a Catholic.Hitler almost made many anti atheistic statements. Stalin trained as a priest and used exactly the same tactics of oppression that he learnt from religion. Pure communism was supposed to be atheistic, but neither the Soviets or Communist China waged crusades or jihads in the name of atheism. lol. Anyone who thinks that is pretty dumb.

>Hitler was a Catholic
Alan Bullock; Hitler: a Study in Tyranny; Harper Perennial Edition 1991; p. 219: "Hitler had been brought up a Catholic and was impressed by the organization and power of the Church... [but] to its teachings he showed only the sharpest hostility... he detested [Christianity]'s ethics in particular".
Ian Kershaw; Hitler: a Biography; Norton; 2008 ed; pp. 295–297: "In early 1937 [Hitler] was declaring that 'Christianity was ripe for destruction', and that the Churches must yield to the 'primacy of the state', railing against any compromise with 'the most horrible institution imaginable'"
Richard J. Evans; The Third Reich at War; Penguin Press; New York 2009, p. 547: Evans wrote that Hitler believed Germany could not tolerate the intervention of foreign influences such as the Pope and "Priests, he said, were 'black bugs', 'abortions in black cassocks'". Evans noted that Hitler saw Christianity as "indelibly Jewish in origin and character" and a "prototype of Bolshevism", which "violated the law of natural selection".
Richard Overy: The Dictators Hitler's Germany Stalin's Russia; Allen Lane/Penguin; 2004.p 281: "[Hitler's] few private remarks on Christianity betray a profound contempt and indifference".
A. N. Wilson; Hitler a Short Biography; Harper Press; 2012, p. 71.: "Much is sometimes made of the Catholic upbringing of Hitler... it was something to which Hitler himself often made allusion, and he was nearly always violently hostile. 'The biretta! The mere sight of these abortions in cassocks makes me wild!'"
Laurence Rees; The Dark Charisma of Adolf Hitler; Ebury Press; 2012; p. 135.; "There is no evidence that Hitler himself, in his personal life, ever expressed any individual belief in the basic tenets of the Christian church".
Derek Hastings (2010). Catholicism and the Roots of Nazism. Oxford: Oxford University Press, p. 181 : Hastings considers it plausible that Hitler was a Catholic as late as his trial in 1924, but writes that "there is little doubt that Hitler was a staunch opponent of Christianity throughout the duration of the Third Reich."
Joseph Goebbels (Fred Taylor Translation); The Goebbels Diaries 1939–41; Hamish Hamilton Ltd; London; 1982; ISBN 0-241-10893-4 : In his entry for 29 April 1941, Goebbels noted long discussions about the Vatican and Christianity, and wrote: "The Fuhrer is a fierce opponent of all that humbug".

No, they waged "jihad" in the name of Communism/socialism. So what does that tell you about Communism/socialism?

>neither the soviets or communist china waged crusades in the name of atheism
There was a massive closure of churches] (reducing the number from 22,000 to
Closures of monasteries and convents as well as reinforcement of the 1929 legislation to ban pilgrimages
Closure of most of the still existing seminaries and bans on pastoral courses
Banning all services outside of church walls and recording the personal identities of all adults requesting church baptisms, weddings or funerals. Non-fulfillment of these regulations by clergy would lead to disallowance of state registration for them (which meant they could no longer do any pastoral work or liturgy at all, without special state permission).
The deprivation of parental rights for teaching religion to their children, a ban on the presence of children at church services (beginning in 1961 with the Baptists and then extended to the Orthodox in 1963) and the administration of the Eucharist to children over the age of four.
The forced retirement, arrests and prison sentences to clergymen who criticized atheism or the anti-religious campaign, who conducted Christian charity or who in made religion popular by personal example.
It also disallowed the ringing of church bells and services in daytime in some rural settings from May to the end of October under the pretext of field work requirements.
Watchdog groups say the persecution of Christians and other religious minorities in China is at its most intense since the Cultural Revolution, as churches are shuttered, Bibles confiscated and believers arrested at rates not seen in decades.

Evidence of the crackdown was in plain view this week, when police raided Early Rain Covenant Church, an underground parish in the southwestern Sichuan province, to preempt a memorial service commemorating the 29th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre of anti-government protesters.

According to ChinaAid, an advocacy group that documents human rights abuses in the communist nation, 17 people were violently detained, including Pastor Wang Yi and his wife, who attempted to block the door.

Pastor Bob Fu, founder and president of ChinaAid, said the number of people arrested in China for exercising their religious freedom “has reached the highest level since the end of the Cultural Revolution.” He cited internal figures showing a nearly fivefold increase in the number of Christians who were persecuted by the government last year.

Yes they closed churches, (and would have closed mosques too) not because of their faith but because of their organisation. Any organisation that was considered a threat to communist rule was to be eliminated. The same way that Saudi Arabia does not allow Churches, unions or any form of organised opposition but you wouldn't call them atheists!

>any organisation that was considered a threat to communist rule was to be eliminated
Ok? Even you claimed that athiesm is woven in communism. Communistic actions were athiestic in nature
>you wouldn't call Saudi Arabia atheists
No, they're anti-Christian due to Muslim beliefs. Likewise, communist countries are anti-Christian due to communistic beliefs. These beliefs went hand-in-hand with athiesm

Communist actions weren't atheistic in nature, they were communist. Atheism was just one part of their 'beliefs'. The same as the American Constitution is not defined just by the first paragraph or the 2nd Amendment, you have to consider all of it. Communism is broadly defined as the workers controlling the means of production, being atheist is way down their list of priorities, smashing any opposition to the 'ordinary' man was right up at the top.

Yea really, a paradigm shift doesn’t mean Russia didnt have the biggest orthodox population, or defining your roots and nationalism means striping your religion. Even if they weren’t catholics, how could the inner circle practices esoteric teachings and not be religions and why bother seek religions relics and texts. Can’t see the black sun

Definition of crusade: Lead or take part in an energetic and organized campaign concerning a social, political, or religious issue
So there were crusades against Christians (in the name of anti-Christianity and communism)
>anyone who thinks that is pretty dumb
lol

THANK YOU!! Someone said it

Except the meme is a blatant lie. Stalin was a seminary student and used the highly religious russian population to get the power he had. Without religion, he would have been unable to kill anyone. Hitler was also not an atheist.

Puff, puff, pass. Quit bogarting.

all atheits are murderers

you're a religious, you just dont want the libtards to find out because they hate women and minorities

when you're an adult so you use kid as an insult to be better than the generation before you

I was being sarcastic, I'm not that old myself. Plus I have no idea how old you are you could be an 80 year old for all I know.

No, "atheits" don't exist, and if you meant atheists, then that's still not true.

As a Christian, I don’t believe in atheism :)

Okay. Hope it makes you happy.

It does. Didn’t you see the emoji? :-)

Good. :-)

bro he got the joke