When NFL players committed rape, murder, assault, etc.. did you boycott? Or was it the flag that finally did it for you?

Were you protesting when they were committing crimes, or do you just like to project morality on others? Just curious.

I was asking a question and not implying my moral stance.

I wasn't protesting when they were striking in the 80s, roiding in the 90s, beating their wives and killing buddies in their limos in the 00s, or sitting for the anthem in the 10s.

Why liberals supporting this disrespecting sonsofbitches?

A Special Forces vet got them to kneel. He was right.

I won't call you "Libtard". But anyone who thinks this is a real issue, might be just a "tard".

Interestingly, I googled "police beating black people videos", and got pages from all over the place in our country. I googled "police beating white people", and got two..both who were trying to protect and or film black people being beaten. So the police need to be better about not hiring bullies, and training to handle their anger, and training to not see black people as more threatening. The problems are real for black people, and it's a system that could use some drastic improvement until black suspects are treated as well as white suspects, because blacks do get beaten up simply for not following arbitrary instructions when arrested, as has been seen in many videos. So I believe the blacks who say there needs to be justice in the criminal justice system, and appreciate when they choose to protest nonviolently with regard to the national anthem.

Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, MSM and Internet, ALL controlled by DARPA and CIA. If you are watching and reading all this trash and reacting emotionally, they have you. Rich people of all races are elevated above these situations. Poor people of all races fret over 'em. See?

I agree with you on that point, but hope at some time we can elect people who aren't controlling the elected with their money. But to say that all the media I can find are colluding to hide and or create news to the extent that I see it, is just a little too unrealistic. When I talk to my black friends and they share what happens to them, it makes what I find just a little more believable also. I do believe that the very rich want us middle and lower class to be at each others throats. So I'm going to try to not be part of that, either.

Look at it this way. Whether you read Breitbart or The Nation, one man sells the printing press. Whether you watch police beatings or people protesting one man sells the cameras. Whether you go to prison for murder or thinking wrong, one man sell the prison. All media, all news, all social issues are fabricated and sold, even if it seems "unrealistic". Takes a minute to wrap your mind around, I know.

I will take all that into advisement. Thanks for being civil.:)

Cheers.

Anybody who says they do is probably lying.

Agreed.

You two keyboard heroes don’t know me and I’m sure you don’t know anyone else on here so before you go around calling people liars look in the mirror first, when I first started dating my wife football season was starting and I was home getting ready for a game when she came over and the anthem was starting and I stood up and placed my hand on my heart and she looked at me funny and asked what I was doing and I told her being patriotic isn’t just for when other people are around it’s a feeling you have and she understood. I’ve had this conversation with lots of people and surprisingly more people do it than you’d think it’s just no one talks about it, especially these days being patriotic is something taboo or to be used as a slur. There isn’t enough patriotism in this country anymore and that’s sad.

Lmfao

I was taught at an early age to stand for the anthem no matter where I am or where it’s being played, so for me yes I do stand at home whether I am alone or the whole family is home it doesn’t matter. Even if it’s in my own living room in front of no one I still respect the anthem and our flag.

Good point, I will now, especially when it's live.

I’m not much of a football fan anymore, haven’t been for a long time. Went to my first live NHL game and that’s been my primary sport ever since. What people need to figure out for themselves is, what it means to them. You go to a live game you stand right? So why should the comfort of your home be any different? I dunno maybe I’m the weird one but it means something to me and that’s what matters. Last year had family over and a game was coming on and I stood for the anthem and my nieces and nephews copied me lol thought it was cute and I turned around and then whoever was in the room stood up too, I guess I’m doing something right.

See...I don't get why some MAGATs are always in the face of "libtards" about being so "offended", and then when the roles are reversed, they can't handle it. Personally, if you really like football...watch it for the football and ignore the pre-game show.

No one's in anyone's face. If we don't like what we see on TV, we can just not watch it. This "threat" of a boycott is not violence, coercion, or taking away anyone's rights. Rather, it is a way of expressing our own opinions.

So stop bitching calling out hypocrites where there are none.

The punishment to which I refer is the President pushing the owners to fire the players for doing what they're doing. You are certainly free to object. It is not our President's place to stir things up about this. The boycott is not the violence to which I refer, but those who call for punishment of the players, which, I understand, is not you.

All presidents have used the Bully Pulpit all the time. Do you honestly think Trump has actual sway in the NFL, or can just sign some executive order to force a change? All he's doing is talking and tweeting. This in itself does not equate to signing new bills into law, despite what the left preaches. Just because he's president, he does not lose his 1st amendment.

Again, just because the president talks, he is not "pushing" anyone to do anything. Check the violent protestors on your own side who intimidate and threaten before pointing fingers at a "stupid clown".

The owners who want to do it are being held up by courts, so your point is true that our checks and balances do mostly protect free speech.

They started kneeling after advice from a veteran that told them it was patriotic to kneel than just sit. But you have to change the story because you do not want to face the truth behind the protests.

I get it. Understanding that your fellow citizens who happen to look different than you are being abused by the very organizations that are suppose to protect them is hard to face. But until you do face it, you will twist it to what does make you comfortable. Human f**king nature at its purest sadly.

How do you know the OP of the memes is black?

Like you so often do, I am making an assumption.

ONE GUY started to kneel because his gf is a mouth piece for blm and filled his head full of lies about the HUGE numbers of black people being killed by cops! When the reality of it is the statistics tell a much different story. Is there an issue? Yes. Can things change? Yes. Can bringing attention to a cause possibly start and help facilitate change? Absolutely! But using that moment to protest and have your original intention derailed and your cause forgotten shows poor timing and a lack of forethought. I mean come on anyone with at least a little common sense will know that doing something controversial in honor of a cause knows that the message may be lost if done in poor taste or in offense of many.

Great idea, those players should stand, but good point.

Great DIVISIVE meme tho' comrade!

Do black lives really matter or is this just another way to divide the country?

Pushy rioter, eh? Makes sense for you to be defending them.

I knew it was about racism but I only just learned it was part of the black lives matter movement. Not a very effective way to protest if nobody even knows what they're doing it for.

If you only just learned this, you're not listening to the right people. Like, AT ALL.

I don't watch the news at all. I see headlines, which don't give the whole story. It's not a particularly important topic and the basic facts speak for themselves so I haven't researched it.

It's all bs anyway. The media loves to manipulate weak minded people with racism.

Want to manipulate someone? Anger, fear, greed, lust, and sympathy are the tools. This particular distraction focuses on manipulating people's anger and sympathy, but mostly anger. Every second spent thinking about those idiot athletes is a second you're not thinking about something important.

Yep. Instead of just filling heads with useless entertainment now the time can be used to anger and weaken the country. More bang for the buck.

"...the basic facts speak for themselves so I haven't researched it."

Do please explain to me how you have any idea what the basic facts are, when you haven't researched it and don't even know what the most basic premise of the protest is.

Want to manipulate someone? Make sure they're not informed about the world around them, and are willing to accept ideas without question.

Start here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/police-shootings-2018/

Basic facts: NFL players are kneeling during the national anthem to protest racism.

Am I missing something?

By choosing to do a disrespectful demonstration during the national anthem they are creating unnecessary division in the country. What's worse is they're doing it during a time that has traditionally been a moment of unifying patriotism for everyone.

This clearly has nothing to do with helping anyone. Racism is being used to anger and divide the nation. If the players truly cared then they would be seeking the support from everyone they possibly could rather than pissing off half the country.

A much better way to to go about this would have been to have stood during the anthem, hand over heart, and a fist in the air, for example. Rather than boos they could have gotten a lot of people doing the same thing in the stands and had a movement that everyone could get behind.

It's either a publicity stunt or something much more malicious. There are no good intentions about it. If they actually cared they'd be trying to gain support from everyone without disrespectful behavior.

NFL players are kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality against black people. They have been saying this over and over again from the beginning, but for some reason people seem to think it's a protest against the country itself, or the military, or the flag, or some such fiddlefaddle (hint - people think that because that's what they're told).

If they'd raised a fist, they'd receive exactly the same response (see: death threats after athletes did just that in the 1968 Olympics). If we're being honest, there's nothing they could have done in that moment that would have created a different response.

People protest in a variety of ways and just because their methods appear disrespectful to you does not mean there are nefarious deeds afoot. It could be (it definitely is) that they genuinely believe there's something wrong with law enforcement in the US, and this is their way of speaking out about it. That's all.

Justify it however you want, the fact is that their method to gain awareness is disrespectful and unsuccessful. They need to stop what they're doing and try something else.

If I was having a fund raiser I wouldn't say "hey shithead, come buy something it's for a good cause. Asshole." It doesn't matter if it is for a good cause, the disrespectful nature is going to drive away potential support. Furthermore people are going to complain and, in this example, ask the police to get rid of that person. The good cause will go completely unnoticed and all it will do is upset people.

The fist in the air was just an example of an alternative. They really shouldn't be demonstrating anything during the anthem and should save that stuff for a different time. Since they seem determined to make their statement during the anthem they should really make an effort to keep it respectful because, as I just explained, it gets in the way of the message.

If NFL players do care then they need to acknowledge that they're doing a terrible job and have actually made America worse. They should cease the current demonstrations and reevaluate how they want to go about raising awareness.

It’s something, just not a protest movement. So I take my ball and go home.

Just another tool to weaken the country. Appeal to anger, divide, conquer.

Nobody is denying them their freedom of speech. They're not being arrested are they? If they get taken off the field it's because it's bad for business to have the actors insulting the majority of the fans. If they want to kneel when they hear the anthem they can do it in the locker rooms.

I've said it before, they could still raise awareness during the anthem without it being disrespectful or even a "protest".

Stand, one hand over the heart, one fist in the air. Imagine just how different a reaction they would have gotten.

It's not about helping people, it's a distraction and an attention grab.

Your question is a bs manipulation so I won't answer it. You're trying to simplify an issue in your favor. And you're just another troll.

Now I know where all my favorites went. So strange for them to have no imgflip presence but suddenly see my message about them. How have you been?

Speaking of JAIL! LOL
oh and DONT REPOST THIS! unless you live outside of Russia, of course.

Whoops, did those accounts get temp bans? Be careful who and how you troll!

That's great advice coming from a troll!

I haven't been banned and only one person has told on me. I do pretty well.

Are you also a student there at St. Petersburg? I've read that they hire a lot of them.

You mean like Reality Winner who received the longest sentence in history for her crime of providing classified information to a media outlet? I guess the actual facts that the unnamed (but assumably Russian) culprits were using click bait and cookies didn't fit the malicious Russian hacker narrative well enough. Throw her under the bus.

Her regrets during her statement? That she won't get to see her family.

So I take it you are not a student there.

Ironically it's Trumps opponents that are enacting the dystopian view they were envisioning Trump would herald. Maybe they're just a group of sjw's that need to calm down because they're doing more harm than good. Russia isn't bound by freedom of speech like the US, they got what was coming to um.

No, I'm not Russian at all.

*bound by freedom

Spoiled rich baby tweeter club, you mean?

The blood, sweat and tears of all the people that gave their lives and put their lives on the line to afford others that’s very freedom! That’s what’s more important! And that freedom of speech you all love to throw around as if it’s some kind of excuse to act like an asshole well it wouldn’t be there without that symbol! Just some food for thought.

First Trump tried to cut funding for homeless vets. Then he tried to make cuts to vets' dental care. Both times he had to walk it back. What's next on his list of respecting the flag and our military, I wonder?

Protesting at work is not right. Do it on your off season.

Yes, by all means boycott. Your wives and girlfriends will thank you! XD

hi stallone :3