CNN = FAKE NEWS

That's true.

"The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it’s TRUE. I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous & sick!" Trump tweet, Aug 5, 2018.

so you're agreeing with this meme, right? the words he used in the tweet you just quoted is "fake news" not "journalists"

Can fake news "know" something is true? Can fake news "hate?" Fake news (stories) can express these ideas but that's not what his tweet is referring to; it's fake news (outlets and journalists). Come on, it's not that hard to understand, unless you really think Trump is even more of a Cro-Magnon than he appears.

:^)

Your TV told you so, it has to be true

He’s been drinking too much Russian vodka

Negative news is not necessarily fake....or a distraction....or a deflection. To his supporters it may be all of these things. But it's still true. And may be of importance to all those that don't support him.

Because the truth should matter to everyone.

It may not be fake, but what Conservatives mean by fake, is biased, which CNN definitely is, Conservative media is not necessarily reliable either, this is why I'm Independent.

So by your equivalence, Fox news, Breitbart, ANY "conservative" news outlet is fake news.

"fake" means something. "Biased" means something else. Why can't those on the right just say what they actually mean? Starting from Trump down. He says something, then his base clamors to translate what he "meant"....but remember he was the guy that says what he means, means what he says, straight shooter, etc..... cripes. It's insane how much they have to decipher and translate the guy. And even that changes daily depending on what he says next.

I saw some fake news about a time capsule from the civil war on CNN.

Did they praise it as a cool find? Yes.

Did they report that it was found after a statue was torn down by angry liberals and that the capsule was damaged causing hundreds of pages of history to be ruined by water damage? No, they conveniently left all those details out.

Every single "news" story is negative. That's a clear indication something is wrong. Have you ever seen Trump put in a totally positive light by a news source other than fox?

Trump ended a 20 year old policy of our country separating children from their families at the border and somehow the media has spun it to make liberals scream that he's an even bigger evil racist. When I bring that up liberals say he should have never been separating them to begin with. The media has people believing that only Trump separated families. Trump ended it! The media is LYING to people!

What positive news has not been covered? The employment numbers? They have been on the rise since obama was in office.

The "20 year old policy of our country separating children from their families at the border " Is fake news. It has NOT been happening until Trump decided to do it. plain and simple. “Previous administrations used family detention facilities, allowing the whole family to stay together while awaiting their deportation case in immigration court, or alternatives to detention, which required families to be tracked but released from custody to await their court date,” Brown and her co-author, Tim O’Shea, wrote in an explainer piece for the Bipartisan Policy Center’s website.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/

Again....FACTS matter

Funny, I could have sworn my immigration attorney gf was helping to reunite families while Obama was in office. Kind of thought that was one of the primary functions of her job. Must have been lies?

Family detention facilities have existed from the start. Not everyone gets to go there because they are usually full all the time. Legally, our system has to put the people that cross illegally somewhere so separations are forced to occur. The majority of all families have been separated since Bill Clinton was in office. Fact.

You're being manipulated by the media buddy. I live in immigration central. RGV. I'm extremely close to someone who is a champion for illegal immigrants and visits detention facilities regularly. I inquire as often as I can because I want to be informed. I'm telling you with 100% certainty that Yes, family separation has been happening a very long time.

The only reason it was up at the start of Trumps Zero Tolerance policy is because he put an end to the catch and release policy. In other words, people that would have been dropped off in Mexico were instead put into detention centers where they could receive a chance at legal entry. That's a whole other topic, though. Trump has done more to help illegal immigrants than any of the past 5+ presidents.

Exactly what it says in that FactCheck article. "Experts say there were some separations under previous administrations, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children."

Unlike Trump's policy to do SPECIFICALLY that. ALL the time.

No need to verify if these children belong to the adults.
Child sex trafficking is a just a myth conjured by evil Trump to discriminate against pedophiles. AmIRight?

How does separating (and losing track of them) them verify and/or help at all? It doesn't.

AmIRight?

You could've asked Obama that same question, But you were too busy calling everyone racist. AmIRight?
You didn't care then, Your TV didn't tell you to.

It didn't happen then. Keep up. He was called the "deporter in chief"...remember that?

Probably not....YOUR tv didn't tell you about that.

Trump is upholding the law Democrats wrote, And Bubba signed in 96.
Clinton separated families, Bush separated families, Obama separated families... You never cared until Democrats knew you liberal sheep would be outraged when they accidentally showed you photos of Obama's caged children & blamed Trump. Here you are as proof.

So why doesn't TRUMP fix it to a morally superior one? If you cared so much then....why don't you care now?

Obama deported more illegals than all 20th century Presidents COMBINED. He didn't wharehouse children in cages to do it.

You're trying to merge that with the 2014 wave of unaccompanied minors that needed to be put in emergency shelter.
As usual, you failed.

It did happen, You're in denial, It doesn't fit your talking points, You don't want to be eaten by other rabid liberal sheep for admitting it.
Any excuse you can use works. Fun fact.. Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President. But you don't want facts, You just want to whine

OK- fine it happened. Obama ate babies on the border.

What does it have to do with TRUMP?

Bush and Clinton weren't counting all the ones being deported. The numbers were scewed due to the way they were classified. If they all had been registered and fingerprinted the way they were under Obama, the numbers would've been much higher.

Mexico will pay for the wall one way or another, I agree illegal Immigrants should be treated humanely, Being used as pawns by both sides doesn't help.
I'm a Veteran, I have mixed feelings about the parade. Should the $$ be spent elsewhere? Yes, But congress will find other ways to waste it, You know that's the truth. But the parade will show who's on Americas side more clearly. I know Crooked Hillary won't see the inside of prison, That's for peasants, But miracles do happen... Never give up hope.
Thanks for a real conversation, It's rare from the left, I half expected you to curse & call me a Russian bot long ago.

No sweat man. Thanks for your service!

Oh well if Congress will find ways to waste it then why not a ridiculous parade then? That parade will cost millions and for what? So Putin can stand there in photo ops and show the world he runs our military now? Is that what you enlisted for? To blow smoke up Putin's ass and defend HIS interests abroad? You're ok with your BIA being used as pawns in Putin's world domination? How can you as a vet support someone who tried to cut funding to homeless vets??

Trump tried, Inconvenient photo of Democrats negotiating on immigration. Democrats don't want legal immigration, Democrats want open borders to prop up their dying base. I believe the liberal chant is "No borders. No nations"

I don't know about that. I am liberal and say borders are important. However a wall is futile. Now...if Mexico is going to pay for it....have at it. But I don't want MY tax dollars paying for a pointless wall. Hold him to his promise....MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL

Poor Vagabond defeated his own argument. And somehow thinks he's smart.

You don't know about that because you don't want to know, At least you're willing to admit it. The wall needs to be built Liberals are willing to pay to support illegal immigrants, House them feed them, & educate them But you won't pay to secure your own country at a fraction of the cost. How does that make sense?

We do what we have to do which means pay for border agents and when illegals are caught, treat them humanely and legally and deport them. We spend A LOT of money on things some deem worthless. We also have a HUGE $716 Billion military budget that was met dollar for dollar by congress. Trump wants a pointless military parade at the cost of 12 million dollars.

What we don't have to do is let Trump lie to us. Hold him accountable and make mexico pay for it. Otherwise it's more tax dollars for nothing. It won't be effective. But if you have to have it...MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT. Like he promised.

Also while you're at it...LOCK HER UP too. LOL, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret...that ain't happening either. And I ain't a fan of hillary clinton, but it ain't gonna happen. Not b/c there is some left wing conspiracy....but b/c they got nothing on her. Ask Trey Gowdy.

I understand you're just 12. But still, Google?

So because a lot of illegal immigrants got deported while Obama was in office means he children didn’t get separated from their parents? Your logic is all over the place and you can’t seem to settle on any one argument.

No- they didn't get separated b/c that was not the policy of the admin. A huge number of UNACCOMPANIED minors came to the border and they were housed/caged/whatever but they had to be detained to be processed. However it was not the policy of the Obama Admin (unlike the Trump admin) to separate families.

That is a misleading statement. It wasn't "some". It was the majority.

There was no blanket policy in the previous administration because Obama would catch immigrants and have them dumped into Mexico and left to fend for themselves. You think the US is tough on illegals? Mexican policy is to deport them to their countries of origin immediately if they're caught. No trial, no chance for asylum. Cartels in Mexico prey on illegal women and put them into what is essentially sex slavery.

Trumps "Zero Tolerance" has given deserving illegals the best chance at asylum of any president ever. Every caught illegal gets a trial if they want it rather than catch and dump them into the worst situation possible.

"Obama ate babies on the border. What does that have to do with Trump?" "So why doesn't TRUMP fix it to a morally superior one?"

Liberals are treating Trump like he's evil when in fact he's been the best thing to happen to illegal immigrants. By comparing Trump to Obama the truth is evident.

Trump has done the morally superior thing! He made an executive order to stop family separation and make reunification the top priority. That's some amazing shit! Nobel peace prize shit!

It seems as though you're accepting Obama's shortcomings with immigration. Now you need to acknowledge the great things Trump has done for them. Don't let the msm lie to you. If they're capable of making Obama look like the savior of illegal immigrants (which he absolutely wasn't) don't you think they might be capable of manipulating your opinions of Trump?

91% of those apprehended under Obama had committed crimes. What's Trump's numbers on that? His administration is about to go after legal immigrants now. And how many have gained asylum under Trump? Have you seen what's happening to the kids? The abuse, the malnutrition and lack of medical care? I find it hard to believe anyone in contact with someone on the front lines could view what Trump is doing now more favorable than what Obama has done. You said Trump has done more to keep families intact. What about the hundreds of kids whose parents have been deported without them? How many have been lost? Where is the proof to back up these grand claims you're making?

Pretty sure every illegal immigrant has committed a crime. What's the deal with that 9%? Obama really was mean then, huh?

Asylum? I'd guess people are gaining asylum at the same rate as before. The people that work with the immigrants bust their asses regardless of who's president.

"Have you seen..."
I find your comment offensive. As someone in contact with people on the front lines I know from their testimony that the children get the best care possible. The kids aren't locked in cages the way the media has lied. The facilities look a lot like schools and children are surrounded by people that care for them.

Kids whose parents have been deported get a choice. They can continue to seek asylum or they can go back with their parents. The problems with the logistics of separating children from their parents has been put to an end by Trump. People are still working to fix the old separation problems but critics need to acknowledge that Trump has put an end to that problem.

I can't provide proof of any of this. My "interviews" are of higher quality than any of these journalists trying to push an agenda because I have spent hours learning about first hand accounts but I don't record mine like they do. It's my word or theirs, take your pick.