They believe they're better than us "little people" and go into tirades during their award shows. No one is listening.

They believe they're better than us "little people" and go into tirades during their award shows. No one is listening. | HOLLYWOOD IS FULL OF DISGUSTING PEDOPHILES AND PERVERTS WHO THINK THEY'RE SOME KIND OF MORAL AUTHORITY OVER THE REST OF US | image tagged in scumbag hollywood,robert deniro,hollywood,the tonys | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Matrix Morpheus Meme | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT MOST OF THE POLITICIANS ARE PEDOPHILES TOO? | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups
Yeah, you'd be correct.
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Proof?
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Google "Franklin Scandal", "Bohemian Grove", "60 Minutes Pedophile Expose", "Conspiracy of Silence" just to name a few. The rich and elite are in on it too.
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So...conspiracy theories?
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I'm curious. How do you define 'conspiracy theory?' What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and a successful conspiracy?
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I'm using conspiracy theory in the colloquial sense of a crackpot, unrealistic theory of a massive cover-up or secret organization controlling the whole world. References to Bohemian Grove, the Illuminati, the Bilderbergs, the Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, etc are common elements of conspiracy theories.
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High five! Darn Octavia your boyfriend Jakenoff did not rescue you here? Are the two of you doing ok?
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Boi everyone knows Jack-henoof isn't octavia's boyfriend; if he were, I'ma have to have a lil' talk with him.
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;)
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I'm right here, sweetcheeks, cept I ain't his bf, he has higher standards.

However, you sure don't. You lookin ta git it on, sample my sausage some?
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Who are you again, and is that raging hardon feeling ok?
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Didn't mean it that way. Just pointing out his latent desires in a way which would unnerve him the most. When someone in denial tries to pretend to be aggressive in that cringey way, a good grab of the nuts shakes them up nicely.
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Like what hoodies in the ghetto call each other, owning the word, turning it into a "Yeah, and what of it?" to those who try to put them down with it. Throw whatever back in an asshole's lap, and let them deal with it.
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I finally deleted the memes, lest anyone take them the wrong way or I seem insensitive using a loaded term not taking into account how they may cause discomfort to those not intended even with my intention posted.

Fauscovai should have seen them by now.
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https://bit.ly/2t0Nkxe ... shows a list of politicians from both sides of the aisle that have been busted for pedophilia. And these are only the ones that got caught.
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Quite a few politicians are sexual predators. Okay. I don't deny that.
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9 ups, 1 reply
Not to mention how many are on record defending him.
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Anyone can say [email protected] Trump I can train a parrot to say it.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, what a message for our youth, huh?
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Good one! : D
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thx.
unfortunately got tagged nsfw, hardly any views and only 2 upvotes.
I'll relaunch it with a banana tomorrow :)
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I was thinking it would be funnier with a baboon with his butt sticking out... ; D
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relaunch
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baboon rocks :)
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I'm 100% serious, look it up.
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most recent hollywood meltdown - - - sick....
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6 ups, 2 replies
The award show in question was in New York with all the broadway actors and the New York elite, Trump's turf. Just to clarify. Sorry, cary on eh.
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Where have you been? All the good memers seem to have disappeared. You, Lynch, Jying is slowing down, Socrates, Raydog...
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3 ups, 1 reply
Work is busy, and spending alot of time in my shop. On occasionally
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4 ups, 1 reply
It's getting crazy here without most of the oldies. lol
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5 ups, 2 replies
I still dont know wtf pubg or fortnite is and theres a ton of those memes and young kids memes. Not alot of good stuff anymore.
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It's the new tidepod memes. Seem every hour there is a new meme about them. My kid like to play fortnite, but he's 19. Thinking of adding a coin operator to the wifi. Lol
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That's funny, but such a good idea.
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Yeah, I've heard of Fortnite, but this is the first I've heard of pubg. I don't want to look it up, either.
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That's Hillary's turf too.
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6 ups, 2 replies
Hillary who? We still talking about her?
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Didn't we just mention his twin sister/brother Trump?
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I say make em all go broke by downloaded their movies from free sites. Bwahahahaha!!
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I'm a lefty who doesn't like Hollywood celebrities, especially ones like Jimmy Kimmel who try to claim moral high ground.
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Well, we agree on something.
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Lol, true. For once.
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Has there been a recent award show? I don't know I don't watch any of those shows anyways.

Good Meme SpursFan!
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Pedos in speedos...
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So are churches.

But go Spurs.
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Well, it depends on the church.
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Not sure what Christians have to do with Hollywood hypocrites. :)
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Hollywood has sex abuse scandals. Christian organizations have sex abuse scandals. Pointing out one while ignoring the other is hypocritical.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Atheists have sex abuse scandals. Teachers have sex abuse scandals . . . Pick a demographic, they all do. So what’s your point?
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My point is that hypocrisy is bad.

Also, if every demographic has sex abuse scandals, what is even the point of this meme?
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5 ups, 1 reply
Just because every demographic has sex scandals doesn't mean it is hypocritical to criticize a group for it. Failing to mention every instance of bad behavior of every group everywhere when criticing celebrities doesn't equate to condoning the bad behavior of other groups.
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You're right
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The point of this meme is Hollywood is full of rapists, pedophiles, and perverts and like to lecture us on morality.

Christianity isn't comparative. Not even close.
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I feel it is comparative because many Christians do the same thing: lecture everyone about morality, present themselves as righteous and morally superior to others, while their own closets are bursting with skeletons.
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If I had to point you to a true Christian who was not perfect in any way, but was as close to Christ as anyone could be, it would be my Mom. She lived the true Christian life and everyone she came in contact with, knew it.

I am far from being a good Christian. I will admit this straight up. However, when I talk about Christ I just talk about what He says through his word. I am against things that go against His teachings, but I am far from perfect.

There are a lot of real Christians out there who live what they preach. The not-so-perfect Christians (like me) are the ones who others should probably not be following.

We are to condemn the sin, but not judge the person committing the sin. When a Christian says that homosexuality is wrong, they aren't judging the person, they are condemning the sin. When a Christian baker refuses to cater or bake a cake for a gay wedding, he is doing this because it goes against his religious beliefs. Just as Muslims do when they refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple's wedding. It's just that Christians are easier targets because we don't threaten to lop off your head or throw you off a building for being gay.
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I certainly believe there are Christians who are wonderful people and who try to live as they believe Jesus would want them to (and I have no reason to doubt that your mother was one). But I don't believe that Christianity offers anything (as far as good morals or values) that people cannot get elsewhere. Look at the fruit of the spirit described in Galatians. These are all qualities that non-Christians can and do possess.

I think the problem comes in when many Christians confuse how they should be, with how they actually are. "Jesus says that being a Christian means I will be (fill in the blank), and I am a Christian, therefore I am that way" seems to be the thinking of far too many people.

"There are a lot of real Christians out there who live what they preach."

I agree with you.

"We are to condemn the sin, but not judge the person committing the sin."

I don't think very many people can tell the difference between the two, to be honest.

"When a Christian says that homosexuality is wrong, they aren't judging the person, they are condemning the sin."

What happens when the "sin" is just how the person is?

"When a Christian baker refuses to cater or bake a cake for a gay wedding, he is doing this because it goes against his religious beliefs. Just as Muslims do when they refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple's wedding."

That is true, but in my mind, that doesn't make it any less bigoted than when a Muslim discriminates against Jews or Christians.

"It's just that Christians are easier targets because we don't threaten to lop off your head or throw you off a building for being gay."

You're "easier targets" because Christians are more ubiquitous in the United States than Muslims are. The Bible commands the death penalty for homosexuality, just as Islam does (I know, I know, "that's the Old Testament").
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Oh, so you were just agreeing with the original post?

Just thought it was interesting that you picked out Christian organizations - like there is some kind of tie with them and Hollywood.
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Not that there is a tie with them and Hollywood, but the poster, SpursFan, is a Christian.
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Hindus gang **pe and kill in India.
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And Christians in northern India kill Hindus. What's your point? I never said Hindus were all wonderful people.
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You could say that to SpursFan as well, but there being a Hollywood scandal is a special card for conservatives because liberal normies look up to Hollywood celebs. The rest of society who aren't normies (that means a very little amount of humans) use this ticket to criticize Hollywood for being up above everyone and manipulating normie thoughts, while conservative normies use it to mock liberal normies and suggest liberal normies are pedos.
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:)
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You mean like bashing Republicans while defending Democrats? That kind of hypocrisy?
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I should also point out that in the book of Numbers, Moses was an accessory to child [email protected] (giving little virgin girls to the Israelite soldiers as spoils of war), so if you think the Bible should be "some kind of moral authority over the rest of us," you're horribly mistaken.
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Please explain how I took that passage out of context. I'm all ears.

No upvote? :)
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The missing upvote was a mistake. Got it now.

As for the passage being taken out of context: You have to understand that during the old testament times, the rules and standard of living was a lot different. Before Christ came and died for our sins to "change the rules" of how things were done, it was far more barbaric. This is what sin does to the world. Before Adam and Eve sinned, the planet was perfect and so were they. The only humans to ever live who were perfection.

When Jesus died on the cross He took all our sins and washed us clean. Before this, it was literally far more difficult to enter the Kingdom. There were many rituals and things that had to be done in order to spend eternity with Christ in Heaven.

After the death on the cross, all this nonsense was changed. So something that seems odd today was standard practice in the old testament. However, Moses did not keep children as sex slaves. In Deuteronomy, God allowed the wicked to continue living in sin, telling Moses that this is the debauchery that keeps you out of an eternal life in Heaven.
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I see the upvote now. Thank you.

You can accuse me of not properly taking into account the moral standards of that time, or imposing the morals of my own time on past generations, what C. S. Lewis called "chronological snobbery". But I did not take that passage out of context, which would be me making it look like it says something it actually does not say.

What is never adequately explained to me is why the rules of ancient Israel are different than the rules of the New Testament, if both were supposedly handed down by the same god. When did things change, and for what purpose? I can see the argument about the ceremonial laws changing regarding animal sacrifice (although I see numerous problems with that idea as well). Why did the criminal/moral laws change? You say "it was far more barbaric" in the OT. Why did god hand down barbaric rules?

"When Jesus died on the cross He took all our sins and washed us clean. Before this, it was literally far more difficult to enter the Kingdom. There were many rituals and things that had to be done in order to spend eternity with Christ in Heaven."

The NT outlines exactly how to get to Heaven. I don't recall the OT ever laying it out. If I'm wrong, please correct me, because I genuinely don't recall where the OT says precisely how to get to Heaven.

"After the death on the cross, all this nonsense was changed."

You're describing laws handed down by god as "nonsense"?

"So something that seems odd today was standard practice in the old testament."

But did that make it morally okay back then, just because that was "standard practice"? Slavery was "standard practice" (Exodus 21). Killing girls who weren't virgins on their wedding night was "standard practice" (Deut 22:13-21). Forcing **pe victims to marry their rapists was "standard practice" (Deut 22:28, 29). All of these things are reprehensible today. So what changed?

"However, Moses did not keep children as sex slaves."

He gave them to Israelites as war brides. The girls had no say in the matter. They couldn't say no. That is **pe. Put that into a modern context: an army in 2018 invades a city. They kill all the men, women and little boys and keep the virgin girls for themselves. What would you call that?
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Wow, you guys like to base on a bible that was changed 100 times in 2000 years. Literally, it was changed so many time by people who thought how the bible was actually read. In the Medieval ages, the Bible was changed in favor of the churches by donating your money every day to church meant you could go to Heaven no matter what. During the invasions of Vikings and other religions took the Bible again and changed it. People chose those instead and they later threw the others away. And during the empires of Great Britain, the royal family removed all traces of the Bible in the country until Queen Mary brought it back due to teachings and it was changed that manslaughter was not a sin. Until the Renaissance, many were skeptical about the Bible that it was changed to everyone being white. The right to own servants was added into it later. And then a lot of it was changed by Martin Luther. So they removed the bullshit parts. And still, it was changed when pilgrims came to America. The Bible was changed to accept slaves and that whites were superior again. After more years the pope changed more things about "What is sin?" that it was too restricted for people to do anything it was later changed by the next pope who gave back lots of freedom. But he put a new one about masturbation. Until the 20th century that was removed and some old Bibles were put together along with the Jewish book and the "original" was back.
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I...don't think anything you just said is true. The changes to the Bible have not been as numerous or as frequent or as monumental as you claim. Even I as an atheist admit that.
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Found you! You are a Christian only Christians take the Bible's history seriously!
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Because reading the Bible and studying it helps me to know what it says when I have discussions with Christians.
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I'm an atheist, not a Christian
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Then why would you read a bible and know the history unless you were previously Christian or Catholic?
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Atheist: Critiques bible text
Christians: YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT OF F CONNTEEXXTTTT!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!111!!
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what verse? i'd like to read it
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=Numbers+31&version=NIV&interface=amp

Numbers 31:13-18
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Just as you are horribly mistaken to condemn anyone or anything without providing context. Try as I might, I can find no order, command or instruction to **pe those girls. That is something you invented.
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Numbers 31. Read the chapter for yourself. Moses gives little girls to the Israelites as spoils of war. What do you think they're going to do with them? Take them to Disneyland and buy them ice cream? It makes a point of specifying that these are girls who are still virgins. If the motivation wasn't sexual in nature, why mention that they are virgins?
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thank you for posting the scriptures. I read all of numbers 31. and there is no mention of any type of a command to **pe those virgins. in fact in Exodus 20:14 (one of the 10 commandments) commanded the Israelite's not to commit adultery. which encompass **pe.

I respect the fact that you are an atheist. I respect your right to choose whatever religion or lack there of that you like. I am not trying to change your views or attack you in any way. why not extend that same courtesy to christians?
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I think it's clearly implicit. The virgins were given to the Israelites as spoils of war. What part of that gives you the impression that they have any say in the matter? I think it's clear what their fate would be.

I do extend that same courtesy to Christians. I don't tell them that they can't believe whatever they want. But I also have the freedom to criticize beliefs that I feel are absurd or harmful.
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well that is your opinion. There was clearly no command whatsoever to **pe the virgins. notice what the scriptures say at Deut 22:25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and **pes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

As you can see the penalty for **pe was death. Also the victim was not to be punished. Also, immediately following the command to spare the virgin women, the soldiers were instructed to purify themselves and their captives Deut (31:19), and **pe (or consensual intercourse) would have violated the command at Lev 15:18. When a man has sexual relations with a woman and there is an emission of semen, both of them must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. In the rest of the chapter, the women are usually referred to as people (using the masculine adam), not women or virgins, underscoring the notion that they were seen as captives rather than sexual objects.

The soldiers would have known that **pe was a violation of both the law and the instruction to purify themselves, as shown above; they had also seen God punish such violations with death during their travels in the desert. In fact, they had recently experienced a plague and executions resulting from their relations with Midianite women at numbers 25:1-9, as Moses reminded them. At that time, all those who had sexual relations with the Midianites were killed. It's highly implausible that the soldiers would have wanted to have anything to do with the Midianite women given this context.

i appreciate you asking what happened to the women and children, God did give the Israelites permission to marry women they took captive, but they were to treat their wives with respect: the women were to have time to mourn their families first, and were not to be mistreated. notice please, (Deut 21:10-14). Those who didn't marry would have become servants, but there were rules against mistreating them as well (Exodus 21:26-27, Deut 23:15-16). I didn't quote the scriptures for length.
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"There was clearly no command whatsoever to **pe the virgins."

If you think the girls had a say in the matter, you're flat wrong. If they didn't have a say in the matter and the men had sex with them, then it's [email protected] Why is it so hard to admit that?

"notice what the scriptures say at Deut 22:25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and **pes her, only the man who has done this shall die."

The key phrase is "pledged to be married". The death penalty only applies to the man if the woman is married or bethrothed. How do I know this? Because if you keep reading, it says so. Verses 28-29:

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and **pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

"As you can see the penalty for **pe was death."

Not if the girl isn't married or engaged, it isn't. In fact, she has to marry her rapist. Do you think these are the morals and values we should live by in the 21st Century?

"In the rest of the chapter, the women are usually referred to as people (using the masculine adam), not women or virgins, underscoring the notion that they were seen as captives rather than sexual objects."

In the NIV, they are referred to as "spoils"

"The soldiers would have known that **pe was a violation of both the law and the instruction to purify themselves"

No it wasn't, because the virgins weren't bethrothed to anyone.

"Those who didn't marry would have become servants, but there were rules against mistreating them as well (Exodus 21:26-27, Deut 23:15-16)."

By servants you mean slaves, because that's what Exodus 21 deals with: slaves.
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"If you think the girls had a say in the matter, you're flat wrong. If they didn't have a say in the matter and the men had sex with them, then it's [email protected] Why is it so hard to admit that?" hey man, I'm just showing you the scriptures, you can take them anyway you choose.

notice please Deut 21:10-14 When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives,if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.
If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.
so as you can see there were rules against mistreating the women. notice how the woman was to be called "wife" and then they were commanded not to sell her as a "slave"
if it were up to me there would be no more **pe or crime, sadly that is not the world we live in.
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You'll notice that it says "you may *take* her as your wife," not "you may ask her if she would like to become your wife". It sure doesn't sound consensual to me.

Also, the rule about not selling a former wife as a slave was because by sleeping with her, she was no longer a virgin and wasn't valued as much as a virgin would be. That's why a man who **pes a non-married, non-betrothed girl had to pay her dad money and stay married to her. She was basically damaged goods after that. Her father couldn't give/sell her to anyone else at that point since she was no longer a virgin.
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ok, your trying to compare an ancient world to ours today and trying to put our standards on it. it was a completely different world. today, in america, women can get a good job. become successful, and take care of herself. that was not the case 3k years ago. back then if you couldn't hunt, fish and gather food. you didn't survive. they were basically living like we would consider primitive camping. no running water, no electricity, no sewer, no house to buy, no grocery store. we can't even fathom what their life was like. lets say a 2 year old girl is taken captive. her whole family and everything she knows is gone. someone has to take that child and give her food water and shelter, at the very minimum. really who in their right mind would mistreat a 2 year old child? before you say, "there is monsters out there" keep in mind these were the nicest ppl on the planet at the time. the jews had rules and regulations that no one else had. and they grew up with ppl and instructions that no other nation had. so were their bad apples? YES!!! ABSOLUTELY!!! but the vast majority of ppl were some good ppl who tried "TRIED" to be good ppl.

so say that 2 year old grows up and is treated fairly. (given food water and shelter) what do you think she will want when she is 18? most likely to get married and have kids. (I'm totally speculating, but correct me where I'm wrong) so say she is looking for a husband, where do you think she'll look? thru the ppl she has grown up with? or with some ppl of the nations? keep in mind the majority of the nations want to kill everyone she knows, and has grown up with. also keep in mind that the majority of the ppl of the nations don't have the rules and regulations of showing respect to others that the mosiac law provided.

Back then women were second class citizens. if you wanted a retirement plan you had kids so they could take care of you in your old age. there was no nursing homes, no retirement, you work until your body can't work. then you die. so most ppl wanted to have kids, and did so. you gotta consider their options at the time, find a husband who is among the nicest ppl you've ever met? or take your chances with someone in some other city?

you can't put our standards on their world. its just like comparing apples to oranges.
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"ok, your trying to compare an ancient world to ours today and trying to put our standards on it."

It's actually the other way around. Many Christians take the rules and morals in the Bible and say we need to live by them today, in the 21st Century.

"lets say a 2 year old girl is taken captive. her whole family and everything she knows is gone. someone has to take that child and give her food water and shelter, at the very minimum. really who in their right mind would mistreat a 2 year old child?"

There are times in the Old Testament where the Israelites slaughtered everyone in the city, including 2-year-olds. So I'm not so sure that just because someone is a young child, that means their life would be spared. Go back to the passage in Numbers 31. Even the little boys were killed. All of them.

"keep in mind these were the nicest ppl on the planet at the time."

I can't even begin to explain how wrong this statement is. On what do you base this statement? The Israelites had some decent rules, and they had some really horrible, barbaric ones. Read Numbers chapter 15. A guy is literally executed for the "crime" of picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

"the jews had rules and regulations that no one else had."

Yeah, like executing people for working on a certain day of the week.

"so say that 2 year old grows up and is treated fairly. (given food water and shelter) what do you think she will want when she is 18? most likely to get married and have kids."

Girls weren't married off at 18 in that culture. They were married off once they hit puberty and could therefore bear children, probably around 12-14. You're imposing your standards on an ancient culture, which is exactly what you accused me of doing.

"Back then women were second class citizens."

I agree, including in Israel.

"you gotta consider their options at the time, find a husband who is among the nicest ppl you've ever met?"

The "nicest people you've ever met" in this context is the tribe of Israelites that slaughtered your entire town. Please keep that in mind.

You've been respectful during this dialogue, so I went back and upvoted your comments. I appreciate that.
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"It's actually the other way around. Many Christians take the rules and morals in the Bible and say we need to live by them today, in the 21st Century."

right. like don't cheat on your wife, for example. but we were talking about a very specific example of a 2 year old girl, in a war torn country.

"There are times in the Old Testament where the Israelites slaughtered everyone in the city, including 2-year-olds. So I'm not so sure that just because someone is a young child, that means their life would be spared. Go back to the passage in Numbers 31. Even the little boys were killed. All of them."
right, however i was talking about someone would have to take that girl into their home. someone would have give her food water and shelter at the very minimum. most times she would become like one of the family. (speculating)

"I can't even begin to explain how wrong this statement is. On what do you base this statement? The Israelites had some decent rules, and they had some really horrible, barbaric ones. Read Numbers chapter 15. A guy is literally executed for the "crime" of picking up sticks on the Sabbath."

the sabbath was designed to give the ppl and animals rest. Jesus summed it up nicely. at matt 22:37-40 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

i base it on all the laws that were written to protect ppl. like do not murder, do not steal. do you have some evidence to prove that the other nations were nicer ppl that the Israelites?

"the jews had rules and regulations that no one else had."
Yeah, like executing people for working on a certain day of the week."

or burring away their waste. when at that time the egyptians used to rub human waste onto their wounds. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3495363/

Girls weren't married off at 18 in that culture. They were married off once they hit puberty and could therefore bear children, probably around 12-14. You're imposing your standards on an ancient culture, which is exactly what you accused me of doing.
absolutely, but if i said someone would marry her at an age younger than 18, someone would have come along and called me a sicko. but did you see the point i was trying to make? that the girl would have likely wanted to get married?
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you have also been very respectful, and I appreciate that. I already upvoted all your comments. you are hands down the nicest atheist I've ever talked to. I once had some close friends (husband and wife) who, for years, called me their unofficially adopted son. then I started studying the bible, and found out she was an atheist. we talked about the bible twice, and never again after that. she was not nearly as nice as you. now she won't even return my text messages. its sad really. :-(
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"right. like don't cheat on your wife, for example."

Being faithful to your spouse is in the Bible, but it's not unique to Christianity or Judaism.

"most times she would become like one of the family. (speculating)"

I doubt she would be treated the same as an Israelite. The Israelites, like everyone else at the time, were very tribalistic. They didn't much care for outsiders. Did they let outsiders join their tribe? Yes, sometimes. But in general they most likely looked down on non-Hebrews.

"i base it on all the laws that were written to protect ppl. like do not murder, do not steal."

Other nations had these laws as well. Every civilized society does. They aren't unique to the Israelites.

"do you have some evidence to prove that the other nations were nicer ppl that the Israelites?"

I don't claim that the other nations were nicer than the Israelites, but there are some laws the Israelites had which I don't know that others had, such as the death penalty for working on the sabbath. I think it's safe to say that every tribe/nation/people group of that time had some pretty barbaric laws (by today's standards). The Hebrews were no exception.

Ask yourself this: if you went back in time to ancient Israel and saw someone literally stoned to death for adultery, blasphemy, witchcraft, etc, how would you feel? What would you think if you saw it happen right in front of you? What if you were asked to participate?

Disposal of human waste is something that was, again, pretty universal. I doubt it was unique to the Israelites. It's just common sense and basic hygiene to not leave poop laying around where people live, work and eat.

"you are hands down the nicest atheist I've ever talked to."

That's very kind of you to say. Thank you. I would be lying if I said I am always respectful to everybody, all the time, but as a rule I try to be. I know some atheists have a reputation for being rude or even abusive, and that's not good, but just about everyone has a point where their patience runs out and civility falls by the wayside.

I am sorry about your friend. I have friends who are Christians, and their beliefs don't stop me from being their friend. I know it can be a touchy and personal subject, which is a big part of the reason I haven't told most of my family I am an atheist.
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I doubt she would be treated the same as an Israelite. The Israelites, like everyone else at the time, were very tribalistic. They didn't much care for outsiders. Did they let outsiders join their tribe? Yes, sometimes. But in general they most likely looked down on non-Hebrews.
well they had laws not to mistreat the foreigners, Ex 23:9 You must not oppress a foreign resident. You know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreign residents in the land of Egypt.

you bring up some good points. I can respect that it can be difficult to be respectful to everybody, all the time, i can relate, I try to be nice and happy. sometimes though I Just gotta get away from ppl.

I hope one day if you tell your family about your beliefs that they don't mistreat you in any way.
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Sorry for the late reply.

"you bring up some good points. I can respect that it can be difficult to be respectful to everybody, all the time, i can relate, I try to be nice and happy. sometimes though I Just gotta get away from ppl."

It varies from person to person. Some conservative Christians on Imgflip I get along with quite well, like SpursFan, reallyitsjohn and you. Others, not so much.

"I hope one day if you tell your family about your beliefs that they don't mistreat you in any way."

Thank you. That means a lot to me for you to say that. My dad and brothers know, and they are totally fine with it. I haven't told anyone else in my family and don't plan to anytime soon. There are some relatives who I'm sure would be fine with it, though. My family, for the most part, is not extremely fundamentalist.
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Because slaves never, ever existed at any point in human history, right?

The point was, is, and will always be that YOU added to what was there. Period. End of Story. Full Stop.
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So because slavery existed at the time, that makes it okay for Moses to give little virgin girls to grown men as spoils of war? Nice logic.
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YOU added words that didn't exist to a Biblical passage and YOU were wrong. Now YOU are trying to weasel out of it instead of taking responsibility.

That's pathetic. I have no clue why anyone on imgflip would hold you in any esteem what-so-ever.
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Show me what words I added. If you mean I read between the lines, then no, that's not adding words. If you think it is, then anyone who has talked about the trinity, ever, is "adding words" to the Bible, since the word trinity never appears at all in the Bible. You honestly can't tell the difference between adding words to a passage, and seeing something that is clearly implicit within the text?

Young Earth Creationists believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old, based on their interpretation of what Genesis says. The Bible never explicitly says it is that old. They come to that conclusion by reading between the lines. So are they dishonest as well?
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Rape. Child **pe. <-- see those words right there?

It was so blindingly obvious only YOU couldn't understand it. But please keep trying to place the blame on everyone else for what YOU did. It makes you look like a jackass.
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You are very fond of cut-and-paste, aren't you? XD

Polly want a cracker?
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YOU. added. words.

There is nothing more complex here. YOU actively added things that were not there. That is a point so completely obvious YOU are the only one who can't understand it. Then, when called on your bullshit, YOU turned tail and ran as fast as possible and started blaming everything and everyone for YOUR screw-up.

You are a cowardly, lying jackass and there is nothing that will ever change that fact.
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YOU. added. words.

There is nothing more complex here. YOU actively added things that were not there. That is a point so completely obvious YOU are the only one who can't understand it. Then, when called on your bullshit, YOU turned tail and ran as fast as possible and started blaming everything and everyone for YOUR screw-up.

YOU are a cowardly, lying jackass and there is nothing that will ever change that fact.
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So because a certain word doesn't appear in the passage, that means it isn't implied? Go back to my last comment. The words trinity and rapture never appear even once in the Bible, yet they are clearly implied in certain passages. In Genesis 1:1, the term "divine creation" never appears, even though that it what is being described. Are you so dense, you can only see what words are in front of your face, and can't pick up on a broader context?
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YOU. added. words.

There is nothing more complex here. YOU actively added things that were not there. That is a point so completely obvious YOU are the only one who can't understand it. Then, when called on your bullshit, YOU turned tail and ran as fast as possible and started blaming everything and everyone for YOUR screw-up.

You are a cowardly, lying jackass and there is nothing that will ever change that fact.
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If you say so :)

In the future, keep in mind that what a passage is saying isn't always spelled out in crayon :)
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YOU. added. words.

There is nothing more complex here. YOU actively added things that were not there. That is a point so completely obvious YOU are the only one who can't understand it. Then, when called on your bullshit, YOU turned tail and ran as fast as possible and started blaming everything and everyone for YOUR screw-up.

YOU are a cowardly, lying jackass and there is nothing that will ever change that fact.
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Poor little snowflake needs a safe space from Robert DeNiro. Would you like a hug and a warm glass of milk too, participant?
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Who said anything about Robert DeNiro? And if you think saying F**k Trump is genius, you're an idiot.
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was bill clinton accused of **pe? that's new to me. i remember the adultery.
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Juanita Broadrick for one...

and it might be reaching, but his "relationship" with Monica runs awfully close to 'rape by Position of authority' (the power imbalance between 'leader of the Free world' and College intern is about as big of one as you can get)
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what the? no upvote? LOL!!

thanks for your input. you have inclined me to do further research. thanks again. :-)
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Yes, he was accused multiple times. Swept under the rug though.
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