But That's None Of My Business

Actually, it must still, by definition, be illegal.

Well, whether or not it should be illegal is the debate, though. It meets every other definition, EXCEPT, conveniently enough, being illegal. If this is your reasoning for why abortion isn't murder, you have a poor logical thought process.

You claimed that abortion is, by definition, murder. This is not correct, because murder, by definition, must be unlawful. If, as you say, the debate is more so about whether or not it should be unlawful, then you are arguing that abortion SHOULD be murder rather than that it IS murder. In this context, if someone asks you "do you think abortion is murder?" and you want to argue that it is, then using the definition doesn't get you anywhere; in order to use the definition you must first argue why it should be unlawful, at which point, you've already made your case and no longer need the definition to help you.

Skip to my tl;dr if you don't want to read my wall of text. Nowhere in my post did I say that abortion is, by definition, murder. I said that it fits all other definitions (well, qualifications, really) EXCEPT illegality. Yes. It SHOULD be classified as murder. And illegality is a poor reason for disqualifying something as murder. This is because legality is highly subjective, because it's more about what a group of people (The SCOTUS, in America's case) believes, and not based on facts. Premeditated? Objective, undisputable fact. Killing of another human being? Objective, undisputable fact. By another? Objective, undisputable fact. Lawfulness? Up to government's interpretation. Fact? Maybe, but not objectively so. Since it meets every other criterion, I believe it should be classified as murder.

tl;dr - Unlawfulness is subjective, everything else is not. Since abortion meets every other qualification that is factually based, it should be seen as murder.

My apologies, I confused you with the person to whom my original reply was addressed; he is the one who said "abortion is, by definition, murder," not you. Now though, I am curious as to the following: based on your approach, do you consider euthanasia to be murder?

No worries. Also, interesting question. And honestly, it depends; it appears that most cases include painless killing of a patient suffering from an irreversible illness or coma, or mercy killing. While euthanasia is done by another person, it is usually done at the consent or mercy of the patient. (Or, in the case of animals, it's just a mercy kill). As long as the patient is willing, no, I don't see it as murder. In the case of abortion, the victim of the killing is unable to consent, and, most times are aborted because they are seen as an inconvenience (which is despicable). Interesting question, though.

Except for the fact that it is legal

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Justifiable murder maybe.

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