Is it better to be #2?

Seriously, in my lifetime I can't remember any other President so damn obsessed about his legacy, that was so damn underwhelming

That's because he knows that everyone will forget his name by February 1st.

It's true!

Actually, the worst president in history would have to go to Woodrow Wilson. Obama is a close second. Maybe even tied for first and Carter a close second.

As I said, he's tied for first with Wilson.

*were attributed

Wilson was a racist. Just like Obama, he hated conservative Americans, his consentration camps he used to lock Americans up who refused to support entering WWI , weren't popular. And with good reason.

I'll be honest though.. I enjoyed his presidency. Sure the economy went down, and we should have no business with North Korea, but the oppressed were for once less oppressed. In my opinion, human rights and lives are more important than money because Money is something you can get back very easily, a human being is not.

In my Elementary School years, a student could call another student "Gay" as an insult, along with get bullied. In my high school these days, being gay is ok, along with being trans, bi, etc. I know some people who are part of the LGBT, 3 friends I can remember from the top of my head, 4 including myself. Including them, I have friends who are minorities, and I care for them as much as anyone.
With a conservative president, the changes and protections made for equality would be removed, thus Making America Hate Again. The only difference between today's America, and Bush's America was that love was a force in Today's America, but now is muffled, chained, and dismissed by politics. I not only fear for myself, but my friends as well if they're picked on or attacked, and that's not the America I wish to see.
According to many people, George W. Bush was the worst president in U.S. History because of not only his economic policies which lead the economy down (and which Obama tried to fix), but also because of his exposed reaction to 9/11, which once he got the news, he continued reading "My Pet Goat" to kindergarteners, and then attacked the wrong people. (Also called the War on Terror)

I'll be honest when I say that Obama's presidency were the Greatest 8 Years of My life. 4 Years in, no kids were made fun of for being gay, and that was cool with me. I would banter on about his legacy as well, TBH.

I honestly would like (love) to hear your feedback on my little (what should I call this?) rant, and what you think were the goods and bads were of Obama's presidency.

Thanks! <3

[image deleted]Gaus being celebrated is thewin you were looking for?
Wow.
This country is in trouble!!

Thanks!!

You know , for the sake of national security

Lol. I'm a form believer in TRUE equality. Not superiority!
I'll even go as far as to say if a woman hits a man don't be surprised of you get hit back!
It breaks my heart to see what feminism has turned into. :(

Also :) in my opinion ;) it sucks that really good memes get over looked on this site.
I keep putting out good shit that gets hundreds of likes on faceboon, but zilch here.
Seems like people are more interested in 2009 templates with old jokes and old puns.
This makes me sad :(

Yeah seems like a couple people get every one of their memes front even if it's so so . I try to do original templates as much as possible here's one I just made
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Well it basically was a murder.

The religious families refusal led to the murder of their business.

You didn't hear about this?

There wasn't a murder in the meme, it's showing how both sides can be wrong.

Some Christians and Muslims don't agee religiously with gay people. They shouldn't be forced to make a specifically gay cake and it was all the negative attention in the media that led to the business closing down. If the BAKER'S rights were respected as well, it wouldn't have led to such negative media attention.

Your analogy of blacks being refused service isn't applicable.

The meme was showing how they're violating rights now by forcing the baker to do what THEY want, regardless of how the baker feels. That's disrespectful. They had no REASON not to serve blacks other than their own beliefs. RELIGIOUS beliefs are why bakers don't want to make a specifically gay cake. The two situations are entirely different man.

Religious freedoms are a right here. America is a democratic republic. There's going to be people you don't think are right like the religious bakers but they have rights too.

Did you watch this video?

https://youtu.be/RgWIhYAtan4

That the Christian couple was unfairly treated. And he explained the legal rights of the business owners.

Well, no blacks wouldn't be scriptural so your argument here is already severely damaged.

Plus anytime you want to find anything, al gore invented this thing called the internet, where you can literally be spoon fed information.
Go to google.com
Wait you are using it right now.
Hmmm

Lol

Yea, about as outlandish as saying not baking a cake is a crime against humanity.
I love how you pick and choose what you respond to.
It's niiice.

How can I say it any clearer?
Being black isn't against any ones religion. So that example doesn't apply.
Are you autistic?

If you believe that then I can't change your mind, hun.
:)

And there are an entire group of racist gays.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/news/gay-racism

Your point?

I answered if you'd check your notifications, bud.

It talks about marriage being sacred and being between a man and woman. Any union of a man and man or women and women is to defile God. So the bakers, probably thought to contribute to such a abomination would be contributing to sin.

No it does specifically say cake makers in Oregon or anything like that. :)

Why does your example have to black?
I kinda see your mind set much clearer now.

But if those "racist" Christians' argument was valid, then why are there Christians from every country?

Well that's their problem though. Nowhere is racism allowed or encouraged in the bible or else people from other countries wouldn't be Christians. I say "other countries" instead of "other races" because we're all one race.

Omg! You are a relentless dumbass.
It wasn't a "different topic."
You were using "racist christians" to prove your black discrimination theory...for which you used as "an example," to try and prove your gay couple discrimination with the Christian cake bakers theory.
Jeezers, keep up , hun!

For the 5th time.
Being black is not a sin in the bible.
That example doesn't work.
You are stupid. Keep driving your truck and leave the thinking to someone else.
I know you hate religion. So your ideals will reflect that.
You are wrong and I am right.
Case closed.

Lol, name calling. Let's not forget you participated in that as well.
So your participation trophy is also in the mail, hun.
You are the kind of person who would let his wife get raped by a Muslim and say it's ok he didn't mean it.
We all know Muslims are rapists.

"All Muslims? That's not true. In fact that's almost a statistical impossibility. Some Muslims? Yes, that's true. Some Muslims are rapists. And some Christians are rapists. And some Jews are rapists. And some atheists are rapists. And some water fowl are rapists (to other water fowl). What's your point, exactly?"

Soooo...
You say that singling out an entire religion is not fact and impossible, irrational and disregard the entire statement, but using a small sect of "racist christians" as proof that the gays were in the right with the Christian bakers and were the victims is fact?
Which is it octavia?
You seem to be labeling people when it fits your agenda.
This is why you are wrong and I'm right.
I have proved your hypocrisy and irrationality!
You've twisted and turned this debate into a complete mess at an attempt to be the victor.
Just sad.
There is only one last question...
Do you think you re an idiot?

Did you know that Trump defended gay rights at the Republican National convention and said he was happy that so many Republicans were clapping? He also said he didn't care what bathroom trans people use.

https://youtu.be/lSVLpzGseXw

Yes, I did know that. He did say he didn't mind which bathrooms that trans people used. However, he changed his stance on bathrooms after he became the Republican Nominee.
He has flip-flopped his stance on Gay marriage a couple of times: his latest statement being the Supreme Court is done with it. However, his VP Mike Pence has several other ideas, including removing all of the protections that the LGBT have. (Which is why he makes Trump look good in my opinion)

Thanks for being rational, by the way. :)
Here's an upvote!

I don't think he ever changed his stance, he said it should be up to each state. He believes the federal government should have less power and wants states to have control over their own issues, but he still believes like he said that trans people should use which ever bathroom they feel is appropriate.

I also don't think Pence wants to do what you're saying. I think that's just hysteria created by the false narrative mainstream media uses.

Well, if that's true, than I'm in less trouble. I live in North Carolina, and we just elected a guy who will (hopefully, he's a politician) repeal HB2. However, States' rights leaves trouble for the LGBT in anti-LGBT states, which still recedes equality.

Well, I actually did my research and found out that Pence has given money in Indiana to ex-gay conversion therapies. I tend to avoid the News (we don't have cable, that's a plus) because I also know that outlets such as Fox, CNN, NBC, all of the other 3-letter named crap-spouters (and MSNBC) are twisted.

I do check a site called LGBTQ-Nation, sometimes (not often), which takes LGBTQ Hate Events (Whether a Gay man has made negative comments about woman's dressing, or a trans person is murdered in another country), Ellen Degenres/John Oliver episodes, and other things and spread them around. The site does some articles on Mike Pence, but that's not where I got the information.

I looked it up on PolitiFact (which I know a lot of people use), and found out that it is Half-true, as Pence hasn't focused fully on Gay conversion therapy, but still has opposed Gay marriage and such.

I've heard that Pence was against gay marriage in the past, but I don't think he really cares about it presently. He did just go to the theater to watch the Hamilton production which had some gay actors in it I believe. If you watched that clip I linked, pretty much all the people at the Republican National Convention were cheering for gay rights. I don't think you have anything to worry about. And just because Trump wants states to make their own choices doesn't mean he won't step in if anyone's rights are being violated.

I'm certain Trump won't be too much of an issue.
Still though, he has appointed people like Rick Perry to a high position of power. I could say that Rick Perry is worse than Mike Pence: he doesn't just hate Gays, he also hates Atheists. While Rick Perry isn't in a too high position of power, he is in a cabinet. He was put in the Energy Department under Trump.

I don't see what someone in the energy department has to do with gay rights.

True, the energy department won't be restricting rights with anyone.

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Why do I need protection..?
Doesn't everyone deserve to be happy with who they marry?
All men are created equal.

No equal is if a Christian baker doesn't want to bake a cake because it's against their religion. Superiority is it that said Baker loses business because he doesn't want to bake a cake for someone whose lifestyle is against his religion beliefs. Where was the protection for him?

Lifestyle? That's one of the many myths about homosexuality.
It's actually a genetic structuring that causes homosexuality, which is why they can't control it. Therefore, the Baker is discriminating against their conditions they can't control, and it is a crime against humanity.

Dude, I'm pro gay rights but come on, it's not a crime against humanity if a baker doesn't want to use their artistic skills to bake a cake for a gay wedding. Everyone should be entitled to live the way they want to as long as they aren't hurting anyone. Why can't they just go to a baker who is comfortable baking their cake? Here's a good take on the subject:

https://youtu.be/RgWIhYAtan4

Ok, they don't need to use their skills to create a Gay Wedding Cake, but there are actually shops out there that refuse service to anyone who they might think are gay, wedding cake or not. Probably not relevant right now, but still worth mentioning.
Also, what if they happen to come across a bakery in the countryside/middle of nowhere where there's no other bakery in sight, and the baker is uncomfortable with it? Many weddings, gay or straight, are often held in rural/open (very pretty) areas, with little/no bakeries nearby, but one. If that one bakery is uncomfortable with making a cake for a gay wedding, what should happen then?

Now you're talkin!

Look at waffles "clown fish" comment, the my kayne meme.
No need to reply, an up vote says it all
(Wink)
;)

Right. Like he said in the video, they shouldn't refuse to make them a birthday cake. But the government forcing someone to go against their religious beliefs and make a specifically gay cake is wrong. That's fascism, and is against the first amendment.

Good point. I didn't see why the government should get involved. A YouTuber I watch named Jaclyn Glenn made this point when debating with Jesse Lee Peterson. She mentioned that bringing the bakers to court and such is harsh, along with forcing them to shut down the business.
Sure, enforcing one's religious beliefs is terrible, but enforcing the government to shut down a small bakery is also bad.

I think if I were having a gay wedding, and the baker who I visit is uncomfortable with making a wedding cake, I would just move on. I would let the government know, but I wouldn't tell them to shut the bakery down. I could let my friends know, and they'll know where not to get a gay wedding cake. However, if the bakery was in the middle of nowhere, the person has to make the cake if there are no other nearby bakeries.

Haha. So it's ok to discriminate against them, as long as they arnt discriminated against.
Nice one...

They shouldn't be forced into anything is the point. No matter where they live. Plus gays don't live in rural areas. They tend to live in big cities.
I think it's a crime against humanity to be gay, personally.
Being gay cuts off procreation which limits humanity.
I don't care really, or won't act on it or discriminate. I just think its disgusting

Why do we need procreation? 7 Billion humans in the world already. How is that not enough because we're draining planet resources the way the Maya Tribe drained theirs..
The stories you hear about gays are often seen in big cities. However, there are still some who live in Rural areas.
Also, how is it a crime against humanity to be gay? It is actually a natural thing since some animal studies have shown similar characteristics to that of the LGBT. In fact, biological studies tell us that clownfish can change gender. It's something from birth; it's not controllable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnOJgDW0gPI&list=LLYKhjE9vvucD2oBv5dH0JpQ&index=78&t=2s

Ok dude, you are a gay fish. Makes sense...

Did you watch the video I sent you?

These guys don't realize what they're suggesting is fascism I guess. :/

When a human can change its chromosomes come talk to me.
Hey my wife cut my dick off, guess I'm a woman now!

Yes it was pretty gay.

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A meme I found a while back..

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https://ncase.itch.io/coming-out-simulator-2014

Everyone is entitled to practice their religion under the first amendment. How can you force someone to use their artistic talents in a way that goes against their religion without it violating the first amendment?

The baker shouldn't refuse them a birthday cake, but a specifically gay cake is an activity that the baker shouldn't be forced into.

https://youtu.be/RgWIhYAtan4

Thank you!
This person is so pro- gay that it blinds him from the true definition of equality.

If it was true equality they both would have gotten their way or neither.

The fact that one side won shows superiority over another.

It just kind of shows that one groups right to express themselves if more important then anothers, apparently.

This case shows gays don't want equality, they thirst for superiority.

This octavia is a f**k tard. Watch this.

I agree with you, but i wouldn't call it a rant. Thoughts maybe? I guess you can say it's your thoughts. I think the acceptance of people who are LGBT was a huge thing he got done. I remember it being in insult, still kinda is for some people, but i rarely hear people use it or mean it the way they used to. He got us out of the recession, which was great. A lot of people complain about the debt increase, honestly i have no clue were this money even goes but i give it leeway due to the middle east conflict and our economic difficulties.

I think he did a good job his first term, i've heard of people bashing him im his second term (like this meme) but i don't feel that Romney could have done the job as good as Obama did. I'm a minority, so are all my buddies, i feel a tension because of the new guy coming in. I'm honestly scared for what'll happen, I'm not too concerned since i live in California and it's awesome. I got family that live out of country and i fear that if they visit they'll get spooked by the way some conservatives here act. We had a good run and have to hope for the best!

Why would you be scared?
Sanctuary cities will be defunded btw.

https://youtu.be/JM5WqJp7tUQ

Wow!
Check this out!
Took me like an hour.
It's for the wall haters!
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Check out this Alex Jones dragonball z one, I don't know anything about anime but this shit is hilarious:

https://youtu.be/EZNlaiWNvqU

Thats good stuff lol!
You see these guys reactions?

Lol that's awesome. I wonder if Bruce Willis was there. He's a big Trump guy.

All the real badasses are. Eastwood, willis, wayne, stallone, norris,

I'm scared for all the things he and his supporters say they'll do, i know they can't do it all but all the possibilities of disrupting how things are is unsettling.

Things arnt good. Haven't been for 30 years.
Haven't been since Regan and before that kennedy.
I'd you can get past the media brainwashing.
I feel hopeful for the first time in 15 years.
Obama was not good.
He had some ok things, but overall did very poorly.

So Reagan, the guy who thought it would be an awesome idea to fund a brutal insurgency by selling missile technology to an enemy of both the US and close US allies, was a good president? What does a president have to do to be bad, in your opinion?

Hey no ones perfect, but Obama had done thousands of terrible things.
(See bobparkers comment below)

Not to mention the millions of dollars in damage to American cities from BLM riots while obama sat back and didn't even tell them to stop.

This is very true! Good point sith.
He actually invites them to the white house!
If trump invited the kkk oh the outrage!!

I hope so much that Trump invites Putin to the white house!

Yeah, I wouldn't call it a rant either. I was joking about that part. XD
I think the LGBT protections were his biggest achievements as well! <3

Romney couldn't touch Obama in the elections, so if he did win, he wouldn't be able to do anything! XD
California's a very liberal area, so the protection removals hopefully won't be taken to California. Unfortunately for me, Guess what: I live in North Carolina, where HB2 and the Confederacy roam! If any hatred goes around, I'll be in the center of it.. :(

Still following me I see. LOL

Don't care about you sith. I submitted my comment back when there was none, took me some time to collect my thoughts and i didn't refresh the page. Though to be honest i was suprised that happened because that's a real coincidence. Get over it.

Dude i'm not sure of you know this but i am porkins. Not whoever the hay you think i am. Call me what you want but don't call me another user, i have always been porkins, i may remind of someone else but i am not and it bugs me that you think I'm another person. You have your opinions of me and that's cool, but i porkins, don't tell people i am someone else.

Grow up.

You can't tell me what to do. According to CNN, the Chicago kidnapping wasn't racist.

You should spend your time on someone other than an "alt troll" as you would say it.

Worst Comment EVAR!

It's very telling when someone says they think the rights of sodomites and trannny circus freaks should be at the top of the national priority list, ahead of national defense, healthcare, veterans affairs, law and order, race relations, education and fighting global terrorism, all of which suffered under that unqualified affirmative action poser the last 8 years.

Like I've said, human rights are larger, less replaceable, and more important than the money has IMO.
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Love this comment ninja!! Very telling indeed.
If the past 8 years have shown us anything.
It's not equality they seek, it's superiority.
Won't bake my cake? Bigot!

They would be a bigot, but that doesn't take away from the fact that any business owner can refuse the right to serve anyone.
The superiority comes in when its ok to discriminate against one person, but not ok for another.
This couple's belief in scripture is just as strong and the other couples homosexuality.
Case closed.

Also being black isnt against their religious beliefs, so using that as an example is very damaging to your argument. :/