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Mexico Gun Control | MEXICO HAS STRICTER GUN LAWS THAN THE USA AND THREE TIMES THE RATE OF GUN VIOLENCE | image tagged in memes,jon stewart skeptical,gun control,mexico | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Matrix Morpheus Meme | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU LACK OF SELF CONTROL IS THE ISSUE, NOT GUNS | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
You can have all the gun control laws in the world, but if you don't teach people self control and if people don't choose to have self control, those gun control laws are absolute hogwash.
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Derpybunneh, I would say you are right and people that disagree with you are wrong...
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IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GUN, YOU DON'T NEED SELF CONTROL TO AVOID SHOOTING PEOPLE. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I'm not saying self control and some damn perspective on yourself, others and the world are irrelevant, but surely you can't deny this. If there was a superpower to telepathically make someone's head explode, self control could prevent the one who possesses it from killing anyone in most day-to-day situations. But you still wouldn't let just about anyone have it, would you?
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True. I'm not saying we should just hand everyone guns, especially those who could use them for evil designs. But my point was, if people had more self control, gun control laws would not be so much of an issue. We still need a limit and some control.
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Also lack of respect for human life in general. (Upvoted you)
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Steve Harvey Meme | TRUE MEXICO IS LIKE ENGLAND.  ASIDE FROM THE COPS AND ROBBERS THE GENERAL POPULATION ISN'T ALLOWED TO OWN GUNS. UNLIKE ENGLAND  THOUGH MEXIC | image tagged in memes,steve harvey | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Maury Lie Detector Meme | ROBBERS ARE ALLOWED TO OWN GUNS IN ENGLAND? I KNOW WHERE I'M MOVING TO! | image tagged in memes,maury lie detector | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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But the guns are banned in England, you Dumbf**k
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Yes they are. What part of isnt allowed didn't you understand? I'm sorry I didn't use banned so you understand my post but I thought I did fairly good job of getting my point out. I'm sorry you're not as intelligent as most on Imgflip hence the verbal insult but that's expected from class. I made a meme for you and its words are small so even you Jake can understand it. With all due respect Discolu. ; )
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How do you guys not get this concept?
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OP fast and furious anyone?
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That is not entirely true, other countries also supply Mexico arms in an effort to destabilize the US, although I would wager a guess a larger amount are purchased here. This is hard to prove or disprove however, as foreign imports through the black market aren't usually tabulated. Also one can argue that this administration has done it's share to arm the cartels. Since you are in AZ, I'm sure you know the name Brian Terry.
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It is overwhelmingly true. The vast majority of "Mexican guns" come from, specifically, Arizona and Texas where there are some of the loosest gun laws in the country.
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No, this is not entirely true. It's a smoke screen...this "logic" of yours. I'll forgive you, though, since you're obviously taking this "logic" from the liberal, anti-2nd amendment handbook. The overwhelming majority of these guns are not legal guns.
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Nobody said they were legally purchased. They are usually obtained illegally. Still overwhelmingly American guns.
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By your logic, if strict border controls were put in place, Americans could feel secure, keep our rights, and Mexico would have less crime.
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Yes, from progressive idiots like Hillary Clinton. Aaaand she's anti-2nd amendment. Fast and Furious anyone?
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I would love for once to hear a gun right advocate to simply state their right to own a gun is more important than a little girl's right to not get shot. Pick one. Here and now, 2nd ammendment or little girl.
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What kind of sense does that even make? Our 2nd amendment right is very important, but has nothing to do with little girls being shot. Come back when you have a legitimate argument.
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Perfectly straightforward but I will rephrase.. either you can have choice A: keep the 2nd ammendment or choice B: one little girl's life. Which do you pick? A or B.
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Yeah, that isn't going to happen. You aren't really asking anything logical. Your question is a distraction scenario meant to distract from legitimate issues.
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You won't say it and that was my whole point. I hope someday we all come to realize that the 2nd ammendment COSTS LIVES. Good luck, go Spurs.
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The 2nd amendment was put in place so we could protect ourselves from intruders both foreign and domestic. It was put in place so we could protect ourselves should our government turn against its people. It was not created so rednecks could have the freedom to hunt hogs. The 2nd amendment protects us and our rights and allows us to enjoy the freedoms we have as Americans that no other country has.

I'm sorry you can't see that. It's a shame you believe it kills little girls. I mean, that doesn't even make any sense.
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It's original intent 200 years ago was A WELL REGULATED MILITIA - which we dont have anymore. It has since devolved into rednecks with hogs and terrorist.
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I know what its original intent was.
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You can keep your right to take a bath or you can keep infants from drowning in tubs. Pick one. Bathtubs cost lives.
Seriously, that is exactly the same argument as you are making.
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[image deleted]so its either you agree that cars should be banned or you are in favor of running over little girls
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You need insurance on a car, and you should also need insurance for a gun. Also, cars don't come fully automatic and aren't built for the sole purpose of destroying things. So I pick cars.. see how easy that was?! At least I have the conviction to stand up and say what I think is right and what isnt. More than I can say for for these Rambo wannabes.
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No legal gun is fully automatic. Strawman.
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FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons are already illegal!!!!
Guns are used for self defense. For instance, let's pretend I have an abusive ex boyfriend who is stalking me and who has already violated restraining orders. I know if he attacks me (with or without a gun) that he can overpower me. I might choose to carry a gun for protection.
The problem with assault weapon bans, is that there is no objective definition of what constitutes an assault weapon.
I, personally, am in favor of mandatory safety classes for gun owners. I personally do not own a gun or have one in my house. I feel that is the best choice for my family (I.e. my personal circumstances are such that I feel the risks outweigh the benefits of gun ownership), but I have no right, NONE, to decide what is right for others
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[image deleted]I'm pretty sure you are not. if you are we should be talking about car control.

please understand i'm not unsympathetic but your passion has overcome your argument. a mean person would take you to task for picking a car over life and it can be done very easy. i'm not that person. you seem like a nice person but on this issue (guns not cars) we will not agree. that is fine. my point was about how your argument was presented.

i have had friends murdered and some committed suicide. i would be in a fool's paradise to think it wouldn't have happened if guns were outlawed.

on a side note.. you still drive a stick shift car? i thought most people drove automatics now lol
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LMAO!!! The meme is super funny, thanks! :-)
I take no offense, everybody. I am (obviously) in favor of stricter gun control laws, I honestly mean no offense to anyone...I truely only intend to persuade. That isn't going to happen here. And I actually do enjoy driving stick shift!
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Second amendment. More little girls die where there is no Second amendment, like in Mexico.
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Yes. Especially when the police and government are as bad as the criminals. Mexico is ridiculously corupt. Who really knows the figures.
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Mexico has a Human Development Index of 0.75 which takes it out of "third world" status. The real issue is whether we can trust their reported gun violence numbers.
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All the former Soviet satellite states are second world. Ukraine, Belarus, The Baltic States, Bulgaria, Hungary. The First World is Western Industrialized Capitalist countries; Second World is Soviet socialist states; the Third World consisted of the Non-Aligned Movement - neither allied with the USA or USSR. The non-aligned states descended into poverty as a result. Now third world means poverty. Source: "The End of Poverty" By Jeffrey Sachs
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And Canada would be fourth world.
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If Mexico is worried about American guns... Maybe they should... you know... build a wall.
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Sure America could pay for building the wall... It would be a bargain... Mexican cheap labor... maybe that's an idea that's time has come?...
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Americans could afford to pay for a wall, and probably would. It would start with releasing all the Mexican and Central American felons from prison, back into Mexico. Then, follow the law and disallow non-citizens from working in the US. The suspend all the welfare and foodstamp payments to non-citizens. After cutting ESL education, and accounting for the money saved from the county hospitals, and law enforcement budget cuts, the USA could buil a wall, enforce it with satellite surveillance and programmed drone responses. Set it and forget it.
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Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year:
United States 10.54
Mexico 7.64
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Nope. Oh, wait, you're including suicides.
Mexico's murder rate is about 5 times that of the USA.
Source: https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries
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Meme states gun violence, which includes suicide.
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Gun violence has decreased dramatically in the US.
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1st graph shows steady rate since 2000. 2nd graph is only police and accidental shootings, etc (not suicides or even homicides).
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8 ups, 1 reply
Only you would interpret it that way.
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With the information given from the graph...
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Only if you assume that No More Guns = No More Suicides. South Korea and Japan have virtually ZERO guns but their suicide rates are more than twice the USA's.
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When someone wants to kill themselves, not having a gun isn't going to stop them. Remember hydrogen sulfide being used in suicides in Japan?
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Another common way is to swallow watch batteries. Let's ban watch batteries ...
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If you get rid of Los Angeles, Chicago and Detroit, the United States would be near the top of the list in fewest murders per 100,000 population in the world.

And maybe you can guess what these three cities have in common.
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I doubt those 3 places will magically disappear from existence, but a conservative can certainly dream
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Not the point. Some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country...yet homicides some of the highest in the country. Go figure.
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Could it possibly be that those restrictions are a result of gun violence.. Go figure.. Most guns used in Chicago crimes were bought outside of the city or state. They have also relaxed their gun restrictions since 2010 and gun violence has spiked again.
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That's one of those foolish arguments. "They get most of their guns from outside the state where gun laws are lenient." That trumped up liberal propaganda. Most of these black market guns come from Mexico. And most of these crimes committed (gang shootings and such) are not committed from stolen guns.
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You are dreaming again if you are trying to quote me. Half of the guns seized are originally purchased in other parts of Illinois and the other half are from out of state, like Indiana or Mississippi.
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Lol! Not so much.
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I'm misis!
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That's why I moved to florida!
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50 people killed in one night in Orlando.
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Yes, from a Islamic ISIS sympathizer. Chicago just has problems with thugs and gang members shooting each other. Oh, the days are counting down to when they get those ISIS members up in there as well.
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well...they will be well armed to fight ISIS
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Price of tequila goes up every year...
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Part of the problem is Mexico's extremely corrupt law enforcement.
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I think that laws are irrelevant; it's the culture and education of a country that decides the gun violence. Germany has stricter gun laws but significantly lower gun death rate.
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That data predates the flood of Islamin refugees/migrants - the ones shredding that once proud country apart. I understand your point though.
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I meant to say "gun related" crime. It's still the one of the lowest even with the towel heads moving in. I guess they haven't gotten guns yet.
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It's a place where turtles with chopped human heads esplode all the time!
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It's funny because the NRA teached you to use the word "liberal" as a bad word... XD

And you live in USA I suppose... Teorically "THE" liberal country. XD

POWER OF THE MEDIA.
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A "Liberal" is against government interference in society. A "liberal" is against themselves.
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That's exactly what the militia "The Government want to steal our freedom so let's prepare some home-made bombs and blow up an abortion clinic" fanatics use to say. :)
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The NRA hasn't taught me anything. I already know liberalism is a bad thing. It's more of a disease on our society than anything. Don't need the NRA to tell me that. Or the media.
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That's exactly what the militia "The Government want to stealcour freedom so let's prepare some home-made bombs and blow up an abortion clinic" fanatics use to say. :)
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I don't speak for those that wish to do harm to others with violence. I am a legal gun owner who hasn't shot at anyone, yet won't hesitate to shoot at anyone who feels the need to threaten my family and my home.
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We start from the same situation, but... My guns are locked in a safe, and I don't have bullets in the house.
Want to know why? Because I know numbers, and the sad truth is that with a leaded gun in my house I would attually raise the chances to have me or my family get hurt or killed.

But I believe and understand your protection Instinct, the problem is...

Not everyone is like you, and if you let everyone have guns... You will have more innocent killed.

This is a fact.
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Having an unloaded, locked up gun in a safe doesn't help protect anyone.

And the overwhelming amount of homicides committed are not committed with stolen guns, nor are they committed with legal guns.
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"Having an unloaded, locked up gun in a safe doesn't help protect anyone."

You are wrong. And I'm sad for this.
I wish you were right

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2016/06/17/4-year-old-child-has-died-gunshot-wound-head/86064066/
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Yes they protect my family from the guns themselves.

I bought them for sport, not because I need to kill anyone.

We have 2 problems:

1) A country that let anyone have machine guns, rifles etc. is a country that help fanatics, criminals and lunatics to KILL MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE;

2) Loaded guns in private houses kill, for the most of the time, the people who actually live in that houses.

These are FACTS.
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Myth: Handguns are 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a criminal

Fact: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths involved criminal activity between the family members (e.g. botched drug deals).

Fact: Of the remaining deaths, the deceased family members include felons, drug dealers, violent spouses committing assault, and other criminals.

Fact: Only 0.1% of the defensive uses of guns results in the death of the predator. This means you are much more likely to prevent a crime without bloodshed than hurt a family member.

Fact: Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime; this includes **pes, aggravated assaults, and kidnapping.

The number of innocent children protected by firearm owners far outweighs the number of children harmed. The risk of drowning in a pool is nearly 100 times higher than dying from a firearm-related accident for everyone, and nearly 500 times for children ages 0-5.

Compared to being accidentally killed by a firearm, you and your family are:
• Five times more likely to burn to death
• Five times more likely to drown
• 17 times more likely to be poisoned
• 17 times more likely to fall to your death
• And 68 times more likely to die in an automobile accident

http://www.gunfacts.info/
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Since we've reached the end of this thread, I can't answer you directly. The fact is, in the USA, firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime (according to Gary Kleck, a Florida State University criminologist); this includes **pes, aggravated assaults, and kidnapping. The number of innocent children protected by firearm owners far outweighs the number of children harmed. For some perspective, 1,917 children die each day from malaria (where's the outrage?) while 0.2 children aged 0 to 14 are killed by firearms per day in the US. Transportation accidents, drownings in swimming pools, and parental neglect dwarf firearms accidents ... but no one wants to ban cars, swimming pools or parents.

But it's nice to know that there's a zero percent crime rate (with guns and without) in countries where only the government authorities own the means to defend themselves ... :|
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So for you a solution that in 86% of times KILL innocent people is a good solution.

Or you think sucidal people deserve to die? :)
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Oh, about the crimes stopped...
Have you ever lived in a country when guns are owned by... Police?

It's a very effectice way to prevent crimes... :)
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Guns aren't killing anyone. You have to pick it up, load it, aim it at someone and pull the trigger.

There are millions of homes that have guns in them; loaded guns. And most of these deaths due to these guns are due to little to no proper training.
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www.gunfacts.info is a great resource
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Yes, and in your house his is easier because you already set the stage.

I don't say there aren't, I'm just telling you that numbers show that they are not the victims of the guns in the house, most of the time our kids, and wives or friends are.

NUMBERS.
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Those aren't facts.

This is a fact: Other people in the world have guns, and they want to kill you, and take what you have, from your house.
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www.gunfacts.info is a great resource
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The same reason Chicago has high gun violence: Their neighbors have lax laws.
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No matter what the damn rate is... we shouldn't give up our gun rights for security. Move to Mexico if you want a safer life... I would be happy to help you pack.
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Or have reliable reporting to governmental agencies that track these sort of statistics.
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The cartels employ armed mercenaries and their own men to do their dirty work, all of which is carried out using illegally obtained weapons. Their gun laws don't work because Mexico can't enforce them when it comes to groups like that. Almost no gun related homicides are committed by law abiding citizens, so if you say that gun laws wouldn't work in the US because of the same reason they won't work in Mexico, you're also implying that a large portion of US residents are militants willing to break the law and commit murder for personal gain. That's something the rest of us don't see, but you can pretend if you want.
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Mexico has a war on crime and cartel power struggles, But the USA has people who are some how "frustrated" with mental illness and own guns.
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Ha! Boom, baby!
(Look at the US and Canada and then Brazil and East Africa)
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It's funny how you use a guy like John Stewart as the template for conservative text.
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I figured it was time he expressed something true.
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Man I miss Jon, I used to love the daily show, but now it's so obviously stupid propaganda I can't watch it!
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Jon was awesome. I watch John Oliver's show on HBO. He picked up were Jon left I feel like.
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I've been a fan since his show on MTV, wish I had HBO :(
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HBO GO is pretty cheap.
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One of the tag lines was, "The Daly Show. When news breaks, we fix it!" It was great.
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Thanks to our government pouring guns into their country.
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