Third World Skeptical Kid

This generation is making me sick

Black Bad Luck Brian entertainment. :)

Suicidal Tendencies is the only band i know that had multiple gangs started by fans/members? to stop skinhead nazis from beating people at their shows, and later anti-racist prison gangs.

This story reminds me of Nelson Mandela.

But it wasn't geared specifically towards white people, it was geared towards farmers and rednecks. And I'm pretty sure that there are black farmers and black rednecks. The cast may have been white but the target audience was people of all color.

True, just like I'm not black but enjoy some of BET's programming.....

And yet, the BET logo is black and white . . . ?!

I've been reading the Bible for about 13 years, and I've never seen anything in it that would indicate God is against mixed race marriages now.

I was referring to different literature, I had no intentions of bringing the bible into this... That meme is simply me expressing my opinion about how "GOD" must want the races mixing, since mixed babies are beautiful. Because I believe "GOD" has everything to do with all things beautiful. "He has made everything beautiful in his time: also he has set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God makes from beginning to end.

I contend that God LOVES cute things because he sure does make a lot of them :-)
And, very good point.

You're a slow reader, then?

Haha good one :)

...and it's not fair because WET would sound perverted! I propose, then.that BET change their name so things can be fair.

Mmm, I dunno. TV is kinda ... white people and more white people lol BET is a fine example of capitalism and voting with your tv watching dollar.

What do you mean you hired Armando?

Don't you know I sell him cocaine?

What do you mean you hired Armando?

Unfortunately it seems like the new definition of racism is when someone white does something to offend someone black. That's the only time anyone seems to care anymore. I'm not against BET, a black Miss America Pageant, United Negro college fund, etc.

My problem is when white people tried to do it we are vilified and compared to skinheads or KKK members. I am however COMPLETELY against this black lives matter bullshit because ALL lives matter!

Blacklivesmatter isnt only about black lives, you are missing the point. Its about a proven history of negligence from some agencies against a specific race of people. All lives matter, but it is clear from the statistics and facts and investigations that not all lives are treated fairly, and that is the point there.

I do know people say that blacklivesmatter isn't supposed to just about black lives, but if that were the case they (blacklivesmatter activists) wouldn't get all "up in arms" ONLY when someone black gets killed. You say, "It's about a proven history history of negligence from some agencies against a specific race of people." Well what "specific" race do you think blacklivesmatter people are referring to? Certainly not white.

No disrespect meant but your argument doesn't make sense. You say it's not about "black lives," but then you say it's about the way a "specific race" is being treated.

You are right, not all lives are treated fairly. If you're white and you want to do or partake in something race specific with the words "white" and/or "Caucasian" you are deemed a racist and crucified in the media, but if you are black, you have the green light because of what your deceased ancestors went through.

The movement is to draw attention to whats happening. Sorry but unarmed white men are not being shot to death by police with the same frequency. Again, you are forgetting that we Caucasians are the majority. We dont need marches or movements because we dont have a problem. Why are you not understanding that? Not that I believe every single instance, but the DOJ showed that even though a majority came up clean, and accounted for a small part of the population, Blacks were still stopped, frisked and detained 4 TIMES MORE than a white person. So no, they are not referring to white people, because you and I are not being discriminated against. We dont need a whitelivesmatter, because no one is persecuting us.

Im not sure what you mean. I went to an all white christian school, nobody said we were racist. Again you are not comprehending that you are the majority. BET was founded because at the time a SUPER MAJORITY of TV shows had either a majority or all out white cast, In 1990, 96% of shows had a white majority cast, 92% had a leading white male, and 74% had a completely white cast. Think about that. So yeah, why do you need at white network? Pretty much every field, esteemed job, activity and entertainment was white dominated until just a few decades ago. It seems wrong to say that you deserve to have an all white anything when you are the majority. The simple thing is this: If the roles were reversed, and when you turned on the tv, went to a movie, got a blue or white collar job, went to college, black police stop you all the time, and black people dominated many facets of our country, how would you feel if they then demanded that they also get to have their own race specific whatever, on top of everything else, while you are still fighting for equal rights. Seems kinda.... rude... doesnt it?

(PART 1) I respect and see your point of view, but my opinion differs quite a bit. I think perhaps you are missing my point. I never said we need a whitelivesmatter, I said it bothers that if we did and we used it, we would be deemed as racist. Furthermore when a democratic congressional candidate said, "black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter" he got booed and shouted down. That's what I am talking about. He acknowledged black lives and everyone was fine with that but then when he said that "white lives matter" and then "all lives matter" the audience got pissed off. So now it's politically incorrect to say that everyone's life matters now?! This is the direction this country is headed in and no one seems to care. It's like the 1950's in reverse or something.

If we are the majority and we live in a democratic nation where the majority makes the decisions, how is the majority okay with being persecuted by saying that all lives matter. I feel like white people are discriminated against. There's affirmative action, United Negro College Fund, a black Miss America Pageant, etc.

I am comprehending that we are the majority. So being in the majority, makes it okay for other people to have more rights just because there's less of them? So if people not in the majority of something gets special treatment, would it be okay if less qualified white people made NBA and NFL teams just because they are predominately black? I mean less qualified minorities get other jobs and scholarships because of their skin tone (and NO before you ask I am not saying that because someone is a minority they are less qualified for certain jobs or scholarships).

Even though I didn't research your numbers on TV shows and so forth, I believe you. But here is something to keep in mind, whites are the majority, so just by statistics alone it makes it more likely for white people to be in more TV shows. Entertainment is there to make money so if those shows didn't make money, they wouldn't be on. So apparently those white TV shows were more successful than the other shows.

Once again I never said I NEEDED an all white network, I just said it bothers me that if me or someone else tried to or successfully got one going we would be deemed as racist.

I don't think being in the majority means I should have less rights than someone else. Since some jobs and colleges legally have to hire and admit a certain number of minorities that means that sometimes someone less

(PART 2) qualified gets the job because of their skin tone. Now let me ask you, if you had a loved one laying in a hospital in a life and death situation, would you rather the most qualified person or just the most qualified minority be their surgeon?

I feel like a lot of black and white people are led to believe that blacks don't have equal rights, I disagree but to answer your question, if I turned on the TV and saw mostly black shows, black police stop me all the time because I'm white, dominate many facets of our country and then wanted to have their own race specific stuff, I bet you don't believe me, but I wouldn't care as long as my race could have them too. And this is the same way I feel now. Whites may not "need" race specific things but isn't it racists to deny them the same things just because other races get just because of their skin pigmentation? Being discriminated against is what seems rude to me. If you don't believe that being denied something because of my skin tone is discrimination here is a link to dictionary.com definition of discrimination look at #2
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discrimination

Here is also a link showing to the video of O'Malley getting booed for stating that all lives matter: http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/07/19/sotu-panel-omalley-booed-for-saying-all-lives-matter.cnn

And finally here's some links that show that, more whites are victims of police brutality and killed by cops than blacks. The media just sweeps it under the rug when it's someone white.

http://thereelnetwork.net/the-primary-victims-of-police-brutality-and-theyre-not-black-people/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zachary-hammond-police-killing_55c0e240e4b0c9fdc75dfda3

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all

Part 2) Please look up how affirmative action works. It does not say that you have to choose a less qualified person for the job because they are a minority. It says that you have to have a specific percentage of employees made up of minorities. Its says that if you have 2 applicants of equal qualifications, and you have a deficit of minorities, that you hire the minority. AA is not there to infringe on our rights, because we have those opportunities to begin with. Many minorities do not. It is there to protect minorities. My husband has had 2 bosses that were outright racist. They would never hire a minority if they could help it. Unfortunately AA is still needed in this day. If racism still wasnt so prevalent, then im sure everyone would be happy to throw AA out, to be judged on their own merit, but we are not there yet. To answer your question, I know that the doctor at that hospital is qualified to do what he needs to do. Are you ok with a business racially denying people of color? Because that is what will happen without AA. You wont see it, because you are white, but its there. As a white person, statistically speaking, I have a much higher chance of being accepted into a college, approved for a mortgage, hired for a job, to be let off with a warning for a speeding ticket and if I do something bad, MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely to receive probation, lower bond, and preferential treatment. Those are facts. Are you still not happy? Is that still not enough for you? Blacks were turned away from college for decades, so they made their own. They were turned down from being actors and actresses, so they made their own. Its not about percentages because they are minorities so they would hold less of the population, like you said. Its because they were turned away due to their race. Prime example, the city of Ferguson has a 67% population of Blacks. So by that standing, at least half of the police department, school district and local jobs should have a majority black make up right? NOPE. In fact, the Ferguson PD was made up of 50 white officers to 3 Black officers. Are you telling me there is not 25 other Black officers in Missouri that didnt want to work there. Yeah right. And of course several Blacks now working for other PDs came to say they applied for FPD and were not hired. This is what happens. This is reality. This is why you have to give some of your white privilege because most Blacks have none. Not your fault or mine, but our own society's doing.

(PART 3) black people into office so they can be better represented? Maybe if they put half as much energy into voting as they do protesting, they could get more representation. Then with that they could get more pressure on their police force to hire more blacks and just better representation towards their interest in their community.

I don't feel like I have to "give my white privilege" for different reasons:

1. I cannot help what my skin pigmentation is and I should not be expected to treat people differently based upon that.

2. I don't believe in white privilege. It sounds like a bunch of liberal BS to me. People say that because I'm white I have a better chance at success, fair treatment, etc. But I say that if I am a victim of discrimination because I'm white (believe it or not it can happen), I don't have special interest groups to stand up for me, I don't have college funds designed specifically for me and quite frankly as a white man, if I yell discrimination I am not taken seriously.

(PART 2) does it really seem so silly that EVERYONE deserves to be acknowledged? All lives are equally important and as long as this blacklivesmatter crap goes on, white people can't even begin to suggest that we are important as well, without facing ridicule.

As far as affirmative action goes, it still gives favor to the minorities. Sometimes two people can be equally qualified (education, work experience) but perhaps in a specific case the interviewer just happens to like one applicant over the other. If that applicant happens to black, all is well, but if they happen to be white, you better check your diversity ratio. What the hell kind of a way to run a business is that? If you're the owner or the boss, you should be allowed to hire who you want. I will go so far as to say that when the executive order for affirmative action was signed by (then) President John F. Kennedy on March 6, 1961, the country was in a VERY different place and I think it was necessary, but now we live in a country where you can't even say that your life matters if you're white without catching hell over it. Times have changed and affirmative action is a slap in the face to white people.

By stating that a doctor at a hospital is qualified to do what he needs to do doesn't really answer my question. But don't you think that some doctors are better at their job than others?

Not that you said that I was, but I am not naive enough to not realise that there are still a lot of racist bosses out there, but isn't it also plausible to think that some of the racist bosses could be black as well? They could be denying qualified white people at a job because of their skin tone, but who do we have to fend for us if that's the case. Please don't say white privilege either. Let's get specific. What if I applied for a job, the boss was black and I know that he turned me down simply because of my skin tone. Who can I call to say I'm the victim of discrimination? Is this just another matter of me being a majority, so who cares? Can I call up the "Ghost of White Privilege"? Will that do anything for me?

You say there are certain things that I won't see because I'm white, but earlier you said you were white too. So how do you see them? Sometimes blacks get special treatment simply because whites are afraid to take action because they are afraid that black people will pull the race card.

The city of Ferguson has a 67% population of black people. So why is it that they don't elect more

(PART 1) I feel like black people do have the spotlight. All the time when a white cop shoots someone who's black, there's a news story that goes on forever. Meanwhile two days later an unarmed white male, 20 year-old Dillon Taylor, gets killed by a black cop, most of us have never heard of him. Why? Because it gets brushed under the rug when some unarmed white person dies at the hands of the police. If you would like more names and links proving this let me know, you might be surprised. So you see black people do have the spotlight. Should the fact that black people "deserve" the spotlight make a grieving white parent’s cries any less important?

So now to address your bicycle/automobile analogy. Let's say the whites are the motorists, blacks are the bikers and everyone else is the pedestrians. I feel that, that's probably what you had in mind (please correct me if I'm wrong). Acknowledging that all travelers are important doesn't have to mean that the biker’s paths won't be fixed, it's just someone saying, "Yes bikers, your situation sucks and we are trying to fix this. But at the same time we do not want to ignore our motorists and pedestrians." Honestly as long as my issue was being acknowledged as well I would not be "F**KING PISSED." The world doesn't need to stop just because I have a problem.

To further go with this analogy I am going to explain what my problem is with this situation. So I'm a motorist (white) and more people die in motorist crashes (police shootings) every year than bicycle (black) crashes (police shootings). Everyone (motorists as well) are all "up in arms" ONLY about the bikers that die. The bikers form a "support group" (blacklivesmatter) and society is all okay with it. Maybe as a motorist (white person) I feel like so much attention is going into biker deaths that no one cares nor acknowledges the more frequent, just as important, motorist’s deaths. So while I acknowledge that, yes, it is sad that bikers die a lot from crashes (police shootings), motorists die too. So I decide I would like to form a support group as well, since the media (nor anyone else) doesn't seem to care when we die.

I am told that because there are more motorists than bikers, it is silly/ridiculous that I would want a support group. Furthermore by merely suggesting that motorists lives are important as well, society frowns down upon me and thinks that "I must hate all bikers" (I am a racist).

Now when you put it in terms of motorists & bikers

(PART 4) I forgot to mention that in part 1 when I said the 20 year-old Dillon Taylor was shot 2 days after someone. The "someone" I was referring to, was Michael Brown.

I'm pretty sure this is how you might feel :P

LOL. To tell you the truth, even though I remember this conversation, I had forgotten about it until you just now reminded me. If people want to respond, that's great, but if not, it doesn't matter to me.

While I dont agree with it, O'Malley was booed because he was directing the spotlight away from the point. And that is what the crowd was upset at. The huffpost article said this: "Though bad policing may take a disproportionate toll on communities of color, the calls for reform now being voiced loudest by people of color would benefit all of us." This is true, but as the CNN analyst said in your link, the black community is getting tired of being redirected, marginalized. They want the spotlight for a change, and I dont blame them. In another context, lets say that you have to get to wok each day. You could walk, there are nice sidewalks to walk on, they are relatively safe, problem free, but your work is too far to walk. You cant afford a car. So you bike to work, every day. Here is the problem, nobody cares about bikers. You are not allowed on the sidewalk, the space for you to ride your bike is small, full of potholes, not maintained, dangerous and you have to contend with motorists almost accidentally killing you. Every day you have to stop because of the bike lane being so crappy, and it affects your morale, your work, your stress. But there is nothing you can do about it. You have been asking the city commission to please fix it, for the last 60 years! They have ignored you. Finally this year, other bikers band together and get the attention of the local media. There is coverage, promises, reforms etc... But then, just as you get excited things will change, you hear your mayor say that "well, bikers do matter yes. But so does pedestrians, so does motorists. So we need to keep that in mind.". ID BE F**KING PISSED. You know why? Because of course everyone matters! Yet the pedestrians have their nice sidewalk, and the motorists have their nice road, but I have this shitty bike lane. So NO, I dont want to hear about pedestrians or motorists. I dont want to hear how you, as a motorist, is forced by the government to share the road with me, you know because otherwise I wouldnt even be able to ride a bike. I dont want to hear how you as a motorist right's are being infringed, when I have this shitty bike path.
And that is exactly how I believe most black people feel these days. They are tired of being held to fair standards, when they are being unfairly treated for decades. They are tired of having their problems marginalized, and then saying well you have to be fair to everyone.