More Leftist Logic

The criminally insane should be locked up. Violent repeat offenders should be locked up. Doesn't matter their race or sexuality. It's not about punishment. It's about keeping them off the streets and keeping people safe from them.

Well said and true.

only for the criminally insane

It applies to everybody.

yes, but if you commit a crime, then you should go to jail

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but only if the crime is severe enough(ps, there is a difference between jail and prison)

Yeah, I heard that once on Jeopardy, I wasn't sure if it was true.

Jail is inside a police station where drunk driver's stay for the night. Prison is for more serious offences, like murder or grand theft auto

Look at the original meme. I "was" talking about the criminally insane or violent repeat offenders. Why do you think you can hijack the conversation? It's a Leftist tactic I am well familiar with.

You hate God, America, and the US Constitution. We already knew that, Modda. You radiate with compassion.

Why do you hate God, America, and the Constitution? Because it's your job?

How much do you get paid per comment to disagree even with those agreeing with you?

What country are you from?

You were being sarcastic. I called you on it. Then you did a simple flip that makes no sense in context.

No, what you did was get confused because Google Translate isn't always the most efficient way of translating.

On at least two separate occasions recently, you've actually argued against me for agreeing with you. You've actually argued against me for agreeing with you. And you persisted even after this was pointed out. Either your ?ranslation was bungled up, or you're paid to be a contrarian. Or both.

What country are you from?

"God said so?" You're a Marxist and an atheist. You can't play with my head like that. Point being, Marxism can't be defended, so you resort to silly tricks.

You're a Marxist and an atheist? But aren't all you Europeans?

Why are you dodging the question?

No we don’t. It should have been legalized a long time ago. Quit gaslighting.

No inanimate object has god given rights

See a gun is an inanimate object and you said it had god given rights, which is incorrect. R/whoosh on yourself. 😆

So what I said then?

It utterly amazes me how you can get something and yet still not get it even after posting how you got it.

add me to the r/whoosh

No one is even suggesting that.
Another red herring delivered by you.

I think we should be more like Europe when it comes to drugs, legalize them all. If someone is gonna do heroin they're gonna do it one way or the other, the difference being over here, the courts, the jails and the cartels make the money and I can't walk my dog without seeing used needles all over the place and I know it isn't diabetics discarding thier works. As well as the various crimes committed to get money for thier fix.

Over there, addicts go to places to get thier fix and use it, but it is coupled with counseling to find out what is thier need to use in the first place and options for how to eventually get clean. No little girl at 5 years old says to herself "one day, I want to grow up to be a crack w**re", things happen that causes them to want to take the escape route and addiction sets in.

Any addict whether alcohol or the various drugs at the buffet have various reasons for why they started to use in the first place and very few of them are "because I just wanted to have a good time". Getting in touch with the reasons why the escape route was taken in the first place goes the longest way in helping addicts to recover, not locking them up, all that does is get them in contact with new dealers for when they get out and better ways to cook up thier stuff and use it.

Junkies take over any city where they are allowed to use freely.

If someone wants to escape reality they're gonna do it one way or the other, at least in Europe they are required to go to a central location, get thier stuff and use it, get counseling while there, and then leave without needing to commit crime, sell themselves, or litter up the surrounding are with used needles, likely infected with various biohazards.

How is allowing folks to destroy themselves compassionate? It's called enabling. At the California level, it's called encouraging. Some things are worse than death.

Do you see gangs fighting over the stuff in Europe?

Gangs in Great Britian selling drugs is definitely a problem. They use knives to kill each other. Where you been?

Correction

mainland europe

It's worldwide. Fentynol is a plague. Forcing China to stop making it should be a priority. President Trump has put some pressure on China and other countries.

Agreed

If someone is going to commit murder they're going to do it one way or another.

If somebody is going to commit rape they're going to do it one way or another.

If someone is going to rob they're going to do it one way or another.

If someone is going to commit assault they're going to do it one way or another.

If somebody is going to force runaways into prostitution they going to do it one way or another.

Drugs destroy lives. Drugs kill. Drugs harm society. All drugs should be illegal, including alcohol and tobacco. Mormons won't even have caffeinated drinks, not even tea. They average the longest lifespans in America. They don't have drug problems.

You can facilitate drug addiction and any other criminal activity, or you can try to stop it.
You're not going to stop it by allowing it.

Modda, none of that makes sense to me. Rant or word salad? Please use logic.I have no idea what you are trying to say. Know your audience. Communication is 2-way.

Here's what you do: Change my username as seen on the comment to something with MAGA in it. Now read the comment again. How's that for some logic?

Or, you could skip the name change and just simply drop the contrarian dance routine.

Once again, you took a response from me that was to somebody else as if it was to you. Then you started ad homineming me yet again because you were too busy playing your role as an anti that you didn't notice that the dang comment was actually 100% in support of the message of your meme.

For the Love of Godness. What is your point here?

"If someone is going to commit murder they're going to do it one way or another?" What does that mean? If they are locked up they will not commit a murder. That is the point.

It means you need a new translator app

Sometimes my phone doesn't get my Southern accent. A regional translator might be useful. You hate Southerners, don't you, Modda. God, guns, and good manners. Put your heart in Dixie or get your ass out. Our heritage, our culture, our nation. Kiss my grits.

You forgot the BBQ chitterlins and Moonshine to fill out your time-worn cartoon stereotypes of the South.

Yup, I'm totally convinced, you live in the South. And play in an Irish folk band for all the Irish that lived there as well, no less.

No such thing as BBQ chitterlins. I have had quality Wilkes Co. moonshine. I play old-time, country, and bluegrass also. Like most folks, I am complicated. I don't fit in any of your boxes very well. You should travel and talk to folks, Modda. Challenge yourself. Leave your comfort zone.

You had stated that you played in an Irish folk band. Probably now the entire Irish population by name down there, because that's how big the population is.

All good points but in one case it is a person placing harm on another, in the case of drug addiction it is a person harming themselves, the harm to others comes when they rob or commit various crimes to get money for thier stuff. If a person is only harming themselves and will continue to do so until they succumb to the addiction, by giving them the carrot and the stick of access to the drug coupled with counseling to get to the root of thier problem you eliminate most of the harm to society that comes from drug addiction that people are gonna continue to do whether it's legal or not.

I'm not saying legalize heroin in the way that alcohol is legal, way more harm comes to society from alcohol than any other drug anyway, whether car accidents that kill people, domestic violence issues, decisions made while drunk that end in prison terms for people, but it still comes down to most people who use thier drug of choice are using it as an escape route from reality because there is something in thier reality causing them pain, find out what the thorn in the side is through counseling, deal with it, and you've gone a long way in treating the cause and not just punishing the effects.

The Mormons are missing out. I can't imagine life without chrysanthemum tea

I've never had any.

then you are too