Alligator Auschwitz

You don’t answer my question, and my question contains no lies.

Detention center is a temporary prison by definition.

Look, so far, no one has died at the so-called Alligator Alcatraz. That's why I agree with you that it's a tacky comparison and an insult to survivors of the Holocaust and their families.

If people start getting murdered en masse, then we will have to have revise our description.

I'm not saying Trump's administration is not capable of such atrocities (although personally I actually don't think he really is aiming for that, and despite being crazy, I genuinely don't think he's aiming for something similar). I'm saying we're not there yet. I really don't think Trump is aiming for that. He may be a lunatic. But he's not a genocidal maniac.

Do you think the genocide that happened during the Holocaust was 100% up and running the first day? And that Nazi officials didn't have strategy meetings working up to the final solution? Do you think they didn't start actually killing people until the camps became crowded? Educate yourself.

All you're saying is wait till the first six million are killed before drawing a comparison

No, you're right. It didn't happen overnight. That's why I think we need to always be vigilant to spot the early warning signs of fascism or human rights abuses, of which I agree there already are. I obviously don't want to naively wait until people are getting murdered before drawing comparisons. But I still don't think it's helpful to compare Trump's (or Obama's, for that matter) detention centers with the Nazis towards the end of their atrocities.

I think this center is a moral outrage and should be shut down. Or at least heavily modified to meet basic standards of decency (if that's even possible). And no one should be detained without due process.

I just don't think such an extreme analogy is helpful. As well as softening the impact of such a major historical event to the point it risks losing meaning, it could also backfire: by using such analogies, it risks trivializing both and then people switch off.

I'm sure plenty of people disagree with me though and that's of course fine. I can't exactly dare to speak on behalf of any survivors. I expect there is a wide range of opinions.

Thanks for showing me that your idea of debating is just to make shit up in your head. Why on earth would you assume that people who gleefully look forward to refugees being eaten alive by alligators would give half a shit about the conditions in their concentration camps? 😂