Its a pretty strange argument...but i get it, I suppose. Personally if you love martyrdom, you probably shouldnt have nukes.

Leftists reply, "Arrrrrrgh! Logic, it burrrrrrrns!"

Israel has nukes and hasn't signed any international nuclear non-proliferation treaties. Explain the logic in that.

They are not a terrorist nation out to wipe people from the globe regardless of bog-standard leftist political propaganda.

Sure. Israel is a modern democratic nation that abides by international law, right?

The Israel regime has just killed more children... than since the Vietnam war. Totally fine.

Now you answer me the following (if they do, then I'd be grateful because I'm not an apologist for Iran, btw):

Does Iran assassinate Israeli politicians?

Does Iran assassinate Israeli scientists?

Does Iran airstrike entire Israeli tower blocks to take out one terrorist?

Does Iran violate the Geneva Conventions repeatedly?

Does Iran break international war repeatedly?

Is Iran illegally occupying land that the UN decreed is not theirs?

Is Iran building illegal settlements on land that is not theirs according to international law?

Is Iran kicking people people out of their homes, in land that Iran doesn't own?

Is Iran causing mass starvation and famine of an entire population? Which is a war crime according to international law.

Tell me: does Iran launch "pre-emptive" strikes on Israel and kill over 200 innocent Israeli civilians?

I could go on...

But Iran is run by crazy Muslim theocrats, right? That say "Death to Israel!" Imagine if they got a nuke?

While Israel is ruled by a democratic guy who wears a suit and speaks with an American accent and has a Western name (Benjamin). Who has been in power in total for 17 years... Very democratic.

Is Israel attackign America? thats the difference...get it? Listen Ayatollah is awful, go look up the 1988 massacre and what thy did to their OWN people. The difference between the Ayatollah and israel is teh Ayatollah is totally fine with slguthering their OWN people for power and martydom, thats the difference...and no i dont think israel shoul dhave been formed the way it was. They should have built the country up in Israel with the people of palestinen as 1 country...from the river to the sea. But the main difference is ISRAEL is not threatening western countries with serious violence...and doing DEATH chants...and lets talk about Death chants there are NO death chants in The Quran so i dont know where the ayatollah is getting that deranged sht from...that doesnt sound like a balanced individual or his regime EVEN if you hate an enemy you are not right in the head to make good decisions, if all you do is chant DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH all day...like the ayatollah and his regime does.

the ayatollah murder 20'000 of his OWN people in 1988.....hes not much better im afraid, , hes worse because he maliciously kills his own people for no reason.

Yes, he did. He's arguably a vile tyrant. Plenty of Iranians want him gone.

They also don't want Israel or the US bombing innocent Iranian civilians though.

1. 1988 Murders [5 to 30K killed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners

2. Chain Murders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_murders_of_Iran [80 killed?]

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Iranian_protests [1500 killed]

4. Mahsa Amini protests

https://apnews.com/article/iran-mahsa-amini-protests-un-report-366a199119720e69696a123560ef4018 [500 killed]

So yes, Khamenei is arguably a tyrant and I don't support him and won't shed many tears if his regime falls (but that doesn't mean I want it to fall by some foreign intervention intervention, or even see him blown to bits in his sleep – we're not in the Middle Ages ffs).

I also don't support Netanyahu, who is responsible for countless civilian deaths and should be in the Hague/rotting in prison for the evil war criminal he is. Which would be merciful compared to what he's dealt his own opponents (airbombing their entire families in their sleep). Rotting in jail til the end of his days is the best he deserves. If we used his barbaric logic and sick "morality", we'd just butcher his whole family in their sleep or machine-gun his second-in-command or something. Or take out his nephew. But we're not all disgusting psychos like Netanyahu. I think he may be a genuinely "evil" person. At the very least, some kind of sociopath.

But I won't stoop to his level. God only knows if he was born a psycho, or learnt it. Age-old debate. But he should not be in charge of a nuclear power. He should be in prison and out of harm's way. He's a very dangerous, very sick man. Disagree with me all you want. I want him in prison. 50,000 Gazans are dead. In any sane world, people would be punished for this.)

IS Israel attacking Western countries and threatening western countries? Thats the difference...

Hang on? So that's the benchmark? If Israel attacks "Western" countries, that's immoral? But if it attacks anyone else, that's fine?

Really?

Again, I think you need to take a good hard look at your concept of morality.

Anyway, Israel did actually attack a US warship, but they claim it was an accident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

But that's by the by. You're essentially saying it's okay for Israel to attack countries as long as they're not "Western" countries? (However we even define that.) I find that a bit disturbing.

My main concern with the Ayatollah having nukes is the CONSTANT ransoms against the West he'll exploit NON STOP...give me this now or Ill use a nuke. Thats what Putin has been doing with the nukes, constantly hpolding the west to ransom, do we need another regime responsible for slaughtering thousands of his OWN people in 1988 in 32 cities, simply for wanting a politicla party change to have a nuke to hold Western people to ransom?

The difference is, Russia is talking about using nukes as a last resort. Iran is willing to use them if we so much as sanction them. They know we'll retaliate and flatten their country, they don't care. For them, it's a free trip to heaven.