go my monkies... GO!

I speculate that is the real reason why they want to interfere with the deportation of the gang members. Their presence is desirable to the far left to destabilize the country.

If you look at everything though the false dichotomy of oppressor or oppressed, they seem victims for not being on top.

Person - "I'm oppressed/a victim!"
God - "Except for those times you sinned against your fellow man."
Person - "Wait, what?"
God - "That is something that sin does. It oppresses and makes victims out of others. Sin brings nothing but death and destruction. It can never do any good."

FLAG

Offense
Echo Chamber
Failure To do much research
Some were sent to prison for tattoos

4th down 15 yard penalty
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Argument from ignorance, just because they didn't list their research doesn't mean they didn't do it. They ight have just come to a different conclusion. the same goes for the echo chamber actuation what falls under the Bulverism fallacy.

Flag yourself.

Use of phrase "Echo Chamber":
Smear Phrase and Misnomer, This is the "Politics" Stream where opposing political viewpoints are entertained and discussed. Unlike, "other" streams. That you are even posting here says something, and that I'm even bothering to respond to you.

"I speculate": In other words, "Hypothesize".

Undocumented persons" In other words, "entering the country illegally" with or without 'body art'.

"Some were sent to prison for tattoos: You mean like these ones?" Or do they have to be more specific, like, dice, bunny ears, cholos, 5 and 6 point crowns, the #13, hearts with wings, cracker bolts, MOB (Money Over bi**hes, Man Of Business) YOLO (You only live once) etc, etc, Klowns (anarchy). Do your own research, kid.

They were suspected of being in a gang that the president had just did a: if they in this gang thet lode rightw

The gang has never used tattoos for identification

It doesn't matter what you think illegal immigrants are subject to the constitution as anyone else is

And rather than deport which would be somewhat kinda reasonable

Send them to prison

Where real criminals are

No trial

No guilty

No not guilty

No appeal

Who's next?

They already got students for free speech with green cards,

In fact here's 9 sources
Frok 9 different news organizations

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/21/deported-soccer-player-venezuela-tattoo/82589688007/

https://apnews.com/article/gang-deportation-trump-tattoos-c0bd5c4b76ac01d2c75b043caea14da0

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/tattoo-tren-de-aragua-deportation-trump-20232491.php

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-03-23/deportation-trump-venezuelans-el-salvador

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-03-21/a-tattoo-of-real-madrid-the-trump-administrations-proof-for-deporting-a-venezuelan-to-el-salvador.html?outputType=amp

https://www.wlrn.org/immigration/2025-03-19/venezuelan-deportation-trump-tren-de-aragua-tattoo

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-deported-el-salvador-alien-enemies-act-soccer-logo-tattoo-attorney/story?id=119983892

https://www.newsweek.com/deportation-flights-venezuelan-real-madrid-tattoo-tren-de-aragua-2047960

https://www.newsweek.com/tren-de-aragua-venezuela-gang-tattoos-border-patrol-2007684

I see you would give at least these people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe some of these people have no criminal back-ground. But did they come across through the proper channels? If they did and got caught up in deportation, let them get a lawyer: I would bet for the publicity the ACLU or some other advocacy group would find a million dollar legal dream team to represent them for free. Maybe even Morgan & Morgan. More power to those. The rest of them can kick rocks all the way back to wherever they came from. You should know that ICE and LE don't only look at tattoos and body art, when conducting an investigations: But if somebody inks themselves up with thug art
"because s/he likes the look" they are taking a chance of getting roped off in something being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

My keyboard broke down but I'm back

Some may be gabt members but saying that a gang is Venezuela and is at war us a stretch

Literally used a law that said: Habeas Corpus? What's that? Never heard of it

Look up Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Wars.

Read. "Writ of Habeas Corpus". . .

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/criminal-defense/writ-of-habeas-corpus/

"You often see a writ of habeas corpus applied in cases involving:

Double jeopardy claims
Bail and parole denials
Illegal deportation or extradition ←←←!!!
Failure to provide a speedy trial
Removal to a federal court"

"Congress can only suspend the writ of habeas corpus under extreme threat of rebellion or invasion. The President cannot suspend the writ of habeas corpus without approval from Congress"

Source- what you coted

This is what the legal debate is about. A defense attorney will argue the facts if his client is innocent, and he will debate the law if his client is not.

My brother in Christ the law is the law.

They are innocent then I gave legal reason to add on to the facts

You are shifting to personal attacks and illogical attacks

A debate included the law, the legal does not just mean facts

You, instead of coming back with: I believe you are wrong because X

You went: of course you do X instead of Y

That is not an argument or a counterpoint

Penalty on defense automatic first down

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We are operating on two different wavelengths here. You didn't know what Writ of Habeas corpus was, so I kindly supplied you the link. And show me where I "attacked" anyone. As far as judging or discussing their (possible) innocence; I am treating our interaction as discussion and not as a debate. Facts: 1. I'm not their judge nor are you. 2. I'm not an attorney nor are you. 3. Neither you or I know the entire facts of an individual case(s), and that information won't come from a newspaper source. 4. There is a lot that won't get told in news, because of legal reasons, and security/safety concerns. You and I only get to see the pieces of the story that the sources (web sites) want to tell. People are trying to make informed opinions about things when they are not given all of the relevant information. The only thing I can tell you, is if they didn't come to the US through the application process, then all their body art, tattooing whether it is 'gang' or not, will not matter. If they are "Legal", they have a case, then let them get their dream team lawyer and get rich. If not, then they have little recourse, and I don't mean "they can sit and rot in a jail forever."

I wanna be clear when I read your comment I saw it as you saying instead of me giving facts I argued the law because they were not innocent

And yes I believe I did get Habeas Corpus wrong in what I thought it was although

14th amendment, right to trial, is what I am thinking of, which as far as I know they didn't have

That title has got to be racist

Actually it is a quote from the movie "the wizard of oz" when the wicked witch sent her monkies after Dorothy. Why would you think this is racist anyways? Who do you equate to monkies?

Ok, you got me here, I’ll take this L

lol na, lets just call it even, cause I might have been feelin lil racist when I made this lmfao

Deal

She does?

(Flying) Monkeys as in, narcissists' willing enablers.

Probably July

Even more reason to defund USAID

Las Vegas has late May