there they go misusing the word "know" again

So much magic!
Men with magic hair that gave them Hulk like strength!
One man could heal blindness with magic spit!
Then there was the magical Pool of Shalom that would heal the first person to jump in it when, once per year, a spirit of some sort would “stir up the waters.”
A magician made a metal ax head float!
A mad magically made a few loaves of bread and a couple fish feed 5,000 people!
Don’t forget about those magic trees in the pristine garden—one made you live forever and the other made you as smart as god!
Humanoid creatures with wings and existing in another spatial dimension have magical powers too!
The earth, having been soaked in a saltwater brine for most of a year, magically was able to produce enough vegetation to feed Noah and the family plus all the millions of animals exiting the ark!
And then there’s also that magic bush burning in the desert but it never turned to ash …
And how can we forget that merely touching the hem of a garment, if worn by the Magic Man himself, would heal you?
Oh and remember that St. Peter’s shadow also had magic healing powers!

So much magic! 🙄

Where did matter start for atheists?

Same place it started for theists. Reality gives zero f**ks what people think about it.

Then why is it believable

Because science. You can't get over that wall so conversation over. Have fun believing fairytales. Reality doesn't need you any more than it cares what you think, so no loss.

But why do atheists wanna believe in something they can't prove? For me, God created science, so he gets to define it

You can believe whatever you want. If it shits on evidence and wipes its ass with the scientific method, your belief is dogshit. Scientists don't want to believe dogshit. They want to get the best answer they can with the evidence they can gather with the tools at their disposal. And saying "we don't know" is a better answer than "it was definitely a talking snake in an enchanted tree." I don't know how the universe started, but I've seen enough to know it definitely DIDN'T start like that. I also know pursuing an answer with an inquisitive mind has a better chance of success than plugging ones ears and yelling "la la la la la" while thumping the bible. But to each their own. You want to forsake the only thing that makes homosapiens special, and spit on the namesake of your species, fine. You do you. I'll continue filing Jesus in the same place as Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, and approaching life's great questions with logic, reason and rationality, while you and your ilk continue fumbling around in your own closed minds.

I don't see any evidence so far, but you keep talking about it... if you just sit and ponder for a while on what reality is, what eternity means, and where it all started, a creator is the only way. God exists because he kinda has to ig. You talk a big game but you can't back it up. You won't see this ear plugging lalala reasoning in any well-studied Christian and frankly you seem really ignorant about them

I'd explain science to you but I'm too busy teaching calculus to an earthworm. It has a better chance of success.

My point is that until you understand and accept the scientific method, I'm wasting my time trying to teach you anything. Learn logic, reason, rationality, critical thinking and common sense and the answers will become self-evident. But these are beyond your grasp. You need to cue up at the start line before you can take part in the race. But feel free to stick around and keep getting raked over the coals. It's all you're going to be good for.

This isn't how smart people debate yk. They use evidence instead of jnsults. The scientific method DOESN'T account for something to he created from absolutely nothing. It doesn't account for a perfect earth system complete with emotion and beautiful nature. If you want some rock hard science I can show you an essay I wrote when I get home

Here y'go. This holds up to scientific scrutiny even better than anything written in the Bible. imgflip.com/i/9jf7kf#com35313237

It's people's fault that there's miserable things on the earth. Ever since Adam sinned by not looking after Eve, and Eve ate the forbidden fruit because she wanted to be like God, knowing good and evil when she wasn't suppose to (pride) they themselves let sin into the earth. Now sin is passed on to everybody and we all do wrong things.
God let that happen on purpose, so he could recieve glory. That's the whole reason God created anything. He's going to conquer sin as the book of Revalation says, and he will be glorified greatly for it forever.
And you say God let's bad things happen? We deserve it. And those bad things happen because our sin corrupts everything. Even just ONE sin, against a perfectly holy God deserves an eternity of death and Hell! So of course there's things like rape. That sounds awesome in comparison of whats to come for unrepentant people. You can thank our own sinful hearts for all the corruption here on earth.
Now I gotta go. Sermons starting 👻 but I'll be back

(How to you link to comments??)
And God didn't flee the scene. He's still here working and interacting with the earth

Evidence that God is still here? He supports child rape? By his own representatives? Cool, your god is a complete and total piece of shit.

Why are you even here? Go back to darkhumor and get that wrong too.