climate change replaces global warming

No, we are saying that the temperatures are rising. The trend has an upward tendency. Just because it's cold this year doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Does not mean it does exist.

But you speak as one with authority.

Let me ask you and receive an answer to the following questions:

What caused the earth to heat up leading to the end of the ice age?

What caused the earth to cool initiating the ice age?

The truth is there some some manmade-caused change happening, but there is also a natural increase in average global temperature that we aren’t causing. Leftists want to irrationally claim that all of it is manmade heating so that they can control everything that people do. Notice how they come after CO2 which is actually beneficial and helps plants and farms, and much less actual bad greenhouse gases like methane?

I think we should try to move away from fossil fuels and toward effective energy sources like nuclear fission and nuclear fusion, as well as hydroelectric. Yet unsurprisingly leftists oppose these for being “unsafe” and “bad for the environment”, which is extremely ironic.

"Notice how they come after CO2 which is actually beneficial and helps plants and farms, and much less actual bad greenhouse gases like methane?"

No, never have.

Hold up, you're disagreeing with them? Talk about unexpected, but hey, I'm not complaining.

With who?
The user said something incorrect.

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FINALLY

Oh well, I am recently delighted to see at least someone here who at least understands climate.

Lmfao they also post softcore porn a lot

Yeah, I'm aware. I'm not proud to have them take my side, but eh, what are you gonna do?

Question 1: Irregularities in orbit
Question 2: Irregularities in orbit
Space isn't perfect. Nothing is.

Exactly.

Irregularities in orbit, irregular weather patterns, solar maximums, solar minimums, constant reduction in the speed of Earth's rotation...

All things humans have zero control over.

Stop being afraid of things you cannot control.

Accept the fact that one day the earth will become too close to the sun and evaporate.

You would better serve yourself, and mankind, by investing in Elon's mission to Mars to establish a base from which is engineered a survivable habitat.

Get far away from that pesky sun.

As long as people know that regular folk won't be the ones GOING to Mars, ever. I wouldn't go if I could. Imagine a cold, empty world with nothing to do, and an absolute dictatorship right from the start. Hard pass. The list of things you wouldn't be able to do is way too long.

You are correct.

Just anyone will not be going.

Only a select 144,000.

What couldn't you do besides get Amazon 2 day delivery?

Not a irregularities, but steady orbital changes that are cyclical.

Mars lacks a significant magnetic field, thus it cannot effectively deflect radiation sufficiently, meaning that any habitat engineered to be suitable to human and other life would basically have to be heavily shielded and obviously not in the open. Bases, yes, but there will be no terraforming of Mars.

Not in irregularities, just changes in orbit from circular to more elliptical to back, and those changes are steady and cyclical.

Yeah, my bad. Sorry.

No biggie, easy to look at the shifts as irregularities.

What about the shifts that I've mentioned in screenshots a couple of times here?

Which, about hurricanes or Florida?

I've been looking for it but I can't find it, but something like it was predicted that that there would be less hurricanes starting in the 1950s, and then in 1990s the rate would increase. This was already predicted, nothing to do with Global Warming. I grew up hearing this, that they would resume in the '90s (unless it was in 2000s?)

Or do you mean Florida, which should actually be under 15 to 20 ft more water than it is now, as seen in the image I posted?
All those massive sinkholes we hear about periodically? Those are consequence of this. Basically, at present levels, much of Florida is basically collapsing as limestone erodes.

For further explanation, as the images is a bit lacking in detail:

That limestone was laid during the previous interglacial period. That type of coral requires 15 to 20 ft of seawater above it to live.

This has been the norm with other previous interglacials. Scientists can't explain why, but we're actually a lot COLDER than we should be. Atmosphere, tectonic movements - none of them account for why it is actually colder now that it should be.

In something like within a thousand years of the end of the previous ice age, 70% of the ice that covered Greenland melted. To date, despite all that "Greenland loses a football field worth of ice a a summer" talk, 70% of Greenland is still glaciated, so the reverse of what it was 130,000 years ago. And this is after 10,000 years, mind you, when the last time all that ice melted in under 1,000 years (which was actually unusually rapid anyways).

I've been waiting 25 years for I specific promise of the climate chance panhandlers. You would I should see something, just a shred of hope. I left California 25 years ago and have been shoveling the snow off my driveway ever since

Come guys. You've been preaching global warming for a about 40 years now. I certainly haven't seen any differences in the past 40 years. When are they supposed to start.

AND more importantly what is climate change and why is it bad for us. And you can't say it's global warming because climate change can be anything. And that's why everything is blamed on climate change. We get a hurricane in Florida and now it's because of climate change. We get an earthquake in California and now it's climate change. An asteroid comes somewhat close to earth and it climate change. And, yes, I have heard everyone of those things blamed on climate change, including the asteroid.

Basically everything we do, say, or think is caused by climate change. BUT WHERE'S THE CHANGE!!!!

LOL. I have even heard global warming causes racism. Yeah I know that every time it gets too hot, I look for someone not of my race to blame for it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Speaking of race, isn't it odd that there are so many melanated people in places where there is less sunlight?

I can't tell if They™ are trying to get rid of white people or trying to evolve black people into losing their melanin.

Or.... It could be that people just live where they want to live. I grew up in So. California and all the white people would spend a lot of time at the beach trying to get darker.

Where did you hear that bullshit? Like, that's something I can agree with you on.

I can't remember. I heard it several years ago. Some liberal was saying some BS about the heat causes white people to hate black people or some nonsense like that. I guess that was before they saying all white people are born racists. They didn't need to blame it climate change anymore.

"They told me to follow the science. I did and I found none. So I followed the money and that's where I found the science."

Asteroids and earthquakes being caused by climate change is bullshit. But hurricanes couldn't be a better example. The air heats up, causing turbulence, more winds start to form, more water evaporates through diffusion (ever wondered why the water level in a glass of water powers over a week? Diffusion.), and that raises air moisture which causes rainfall making more turbulent air currents that collide and form a hurricane. We literally have that in Geography right now.

And yet sailing has always been more dangerous in winter than in summer because winter storms are more severe — and that is long before fossil fuels were discovered.

I'm not saying it never was turbulent. I'm saying it's MORE turbulent nowadays.

I didn't make up the part about asteroids and earthquakes. If heard climate change advocate blame climate change on them.

Hurricanes are definitely caused by changes in the climate, the same with tornadoes. Hurricanes happen mostly in the spring, summer and fall but very rarely in the winter. Tornadoes happen mostly in spring and fall and sometimes in the summer and vary rarely in the winter.

BUT there is nothing indicating that weather related disasters are happening with more or less frequency and with more or less intensity. Everything is fairly normal. Coastal cities are not losing any land. Florida has just a much dry land as the have for centuries.

And what you mentioned is global warming. Global warming could be a part of climate change but the two are not the same thing. In fact the phrase climate change appeared when it was apparent to real scientists that the planet was no longer warming. They needed to keep the plans they made for a global fascist government to keep going (which is what all these global catastrophies were ever about) so they changed from the specific global warming to the extremely vague climate change. As far as I know climate change has never been defined. I looked at the NASA website for a definition and aside from global warming they didn't fill me in with any details.

Climate change is a great big nothing burger that if we don't give fealty to the World Economic Forum, the UN and others then the earth will explode, or not, we just don't know, but something real bad is going to happen and they are all 100% certain of that. And if we don't conform by 2030 we're all dead.

That's crap. That's why the global elites are having such a hard time convincing Americans. That's one of several reasons why Harris lost.

Climate change is just something that no one cares about while trying to decide if the have enough money to put gas in the car to go to work OR buy food OR pay rent but not all three, like it was before Biden.

Here in Germany, coastal cities are very much losing land.

Then that would be true literally everywhere there is a coast... Are you sure it's not the tide?

Yes, because dams have to be built higher and higher every year.

I'm unaware of any dams encircling every continent on earth.

That's Germany not the planet. Florida is only a couple of feet above sea level in most of the state. No land loss there.

Something else could be causing land loss in Germany if it's actually happening there. We are frequently told about the melting polar ice caps but because 99.9999% of us will never go there. And the small handful of people who do go the both poles are also reporting record ice growth in other areas of the Arctic and Antarctic.

So we are being gaslighted by the people promoting the global fascist government.

Of course Google would say that. They are the worst. Every major news source will also report Florida is losing land. You would think stuff like that would make in the news. And more importantly why are all of the rich liberals buying sea front property if it is just going to be under water in a day or two. It's the liberals in America who are pushing the fake science on us.

It is part of the plan by both the UN and the World Economic Forum who have plans to force the world's citizens to live in "Smart" or "15 Minute" cities. They are the same thing. 15 minute cities are where your work, shopping and everything else will only take you 15 minutes to get to, either by walking or bicycle. They are called "smart" cities because they have cameras mounted everywhere and use facial recognition software to keep track of what everyone is doing and where they are going.

You will not be allow to leave that 15 minute block without permission. If you go on holiday then they tell you how far away you can go.

And this is all supposed to save the planet from some kind of change in the climate that will kill everyone or not. For someone who is upset that America has lost as much freedom as we have, I find this reprehensible.

The WEF has BlackRock, Vanguard and The Street financing them. Plus they are getting the CEO's and presidents of as many corporations as will help them.

Then the EU just recently instigated the greatest corporate take over in the world when they forced business under the EU to adhere to ESG standards. And how that pernicious social credit score works is that to get the financing your business needs you to survive, your business must follow those standards. But not just your business but every business you do business with and every business those businesses do business with and so on. If any of those businesses do not adhere to the ESG standards your businesses social credit score drops and your business is now in jeopardy of not getting the financing you need.

So businesses are forced to cooperate fully with the global government, which is exactly what fascism is all about. Soon that social credit score will be applied the individual.

BTW I am getting this information from the World Economic Forum website. This is all these global weather crises have ever been about. It is all about power and control and nothing about the planet. China the worst polluter on the planet and yet they are exempt from any of climate change crap.

And I don't believe in the Bible, so that's going nowhere.

That's not my fault.

Ask a Fisherman.

Next time I am in Florida I will.

Even if that were true, what would be the benefit of that? People will revolt. So unless they want to lose a bunch of subordinates, they can't fight back much.

Did you read the part where I said I was getting this information straight from the WEF website? There is no "IF". It IS true. In addition to that they already have several cities all around the world which they are calling "smart cities". Some of them are in the United States. Perhaps they are also in Germany as well. That's the cities with cameras everywhere. I don't think they have started any 15 minute cities yet but I could be wrong.

And the EU did actually impose that ESG standard on all businesses in the European Union.

And you are right, the people will revolt. That is exactly what I am doing. I am revolting to their fascism. I am just trying to warn you and others.

I am a Christian. The Bible does say that in the last days the earth will burn as an oven. But it is caused by people rejecting God and not because I don't drive an electric vehicle. So I do believe in Biblical global warming. The fascists will be the cause of Biblical global warming because fascism, just like communism, socialism and Nazism are atheistic regimes. The stated goal of those regimes is to get people to worship the state instead of God. I'm never going to worship the state or any government, ever.

Governments are all corrupt and huge abusers of people, their lives and their liberty. Even governments that started off as benevolent, will soon corrupt. It is the nature of governments. Toxic narcissists are attracted to government power because they love controlling people. Some will even kill millions of people just to get and/or maintain that power. I will never put my trust or faith in any government.

You mean the people actively trying to depopulate the earth of "useless eaters"? Those subordinates?

What does Google say about vaccines? Or how many genders there are? What about systemic racism?

Do you expect an answer or are you just throwing shit against the wall to take what sticks?

You didn't need to respond, and yet, you did.

You HAVE no answers.

Please tell me about papers citing ice growth, while I seek for hours of footage and research surrounding loss of mass regarding the ice caps.

Global fascist government?

New World Order.

I found quite a bit of an increase in hurricane activity.

When and where. I haven't seen it and I pay attention to stuff like that because I have family who live on or near the coast in the Gulf states, Florida, Alabama and Mississippi.

Hotter air can hold more water. Causing more rainstorms.

But that global warming NOT climate change. Shouldn't we be seeing more frequent or more intense or both in the last 40 years? Nothing has changed.

It's all based on "science" where the conclusion was created by politicians and scientists were paid to build a scientific case supporting the conclusion.

The CHANGE in CLIMATE is that it is getting WARMER. That causes turbulent winds and more precipitation by having the air contact more water. There are spots in the Alps that have been covered by ice for thousands of years, and the summer of this year, they were free of ice.

Were those spots in the Alps ever ice free before? YES!!! There's nothing in our global or local weather patterns that hasn't happened before and most of it has happened in our life time.

You're saying more rain but I live in the desert and we're just coming out of a horrible drought. The drought is not over. We've had droughts before in the southwestern states and this drought isn't anything better or worse than droughts in just the last 100 years.

I'm 66 years old. I'm certainly not the oldest guy running around but I have not seen anything different in the weather in the places I've live in all of those 66 years. Shouldn't there be something that the entire globe should be experiencing?

Every single prediction the global warming/climate change scientists have put a date on has failed to happen on that date, after that date or ever. Not just a few or the majority of those predictions but every single one of them.

How are we still supposed to trust them?

So you don't trust the weather forecast?

Not when they sensationalize totally normal things like light snow as an "event" or Atmo-Bomb (I made that up) or whatever bullshit fear mongering terminology to describe f**king weather.