there is no other reason to vote against voter ID

Until a few years ago; I had believed an ID and voter registration card were required in order for one to cast their vote.

Buying votes with Food Stamps and Medicaid

The rest of the world requires voter ID... cheaters don't want it.

Ever hear of Jim Crow and poll taxes? They're unconstitutional any time they deny anyone registration to anyone with the right to vote. Millions of US citizens are unable to obtain state IDs due to poverty and lack of accessible registration services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_taxes_in_the_United_States

Give voter IDs out for free, I never said they should be expensive. Give everyone a voter ID card with a serial number on it that gets a punch hole when used to vote. Show a birth certificate and ss # and get a voter ID for free. BOOM , secure elections .

So, how does an immigrant vote in an election? Like, how does it happen? What's the process?

Thet getting driver licenses? They getting IDs? They voting in local elections? Well, its a hop, jump ,and a skip to federal voting, 100x easier when there is a party pushing for it.

Okay, so they have to get a driver's license. What documentation do you need to get one of those? Because you have to have specific documents about who you are and where you come from to get a driver's license.

But having a license isn't enough. They have to register to vote.

What's the process for confirming someone's status as a citizen to vote in your state?

Because the Secretary of State offices do go and verify this information.

Then, aftere you've discovered this process, ask yourself how likely is it that millions of immigrants could get ahold of all the forged documents necessary to complete the process to register to vote and no one noticed?

Because the criminal infrastructure to support that would be huge. massive. And that's going completely undetected?

That seems reasonable to you? The criminal/voter registration complex churning out real enough IDs for illegal immigrants seems reasonable to you?

Because criminals don't work for free. They need to get paid too. Who is paying for all of that?

Who is paying? The American tax payers are paying, free Housing, free food, free school, free phones, free money, You don't think we are already paying through the nose for these people? 16 states to allow illegals to get driver licenses , making identity fraud much easier.

Okay. 16 states.

But that's not voter registration, is it?

so, we're still at that question; how does your State verify someone's status as a citizen so they can vote?

Then how would these 'millions of immigrants' circumvent this system yet remain totally undetected by any law enforcement agency or the States themselves?

how do 10s of thousands of people defraud the welfare system? How do any federal programs get defrauded? The cartels supply illegals with phony ss #s and Identification. Not only that but this is disturbing as well ->

Welfare offices and other agencies in at least 46 US states are providing voter registration forms to migrants without requiring proof of citizenship, leading Republicans and conservatives to call for swift federal action to stop the handouts.

Every state but North Dakota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Wyoming gives applicants for either welfare benefits, driver’s licenses, or in some cases, mail-in ballots federal voter registration forms without demanding proof of citizenship.

There is currently no requirement on federal voting forms to provide proof of US citizenship, though it is illegal to falsely claim one is a citizen or for a non-citizen to cast a ballot in a federal election.

But millions of migrants with humanitarian parole, refugee or asylum status are eligible for benefits that would bring them to the offices where voter registration takes place.

Getting to vote isn't on the honor system. There's a process that involves confirming whether or not someone is a citizen.

I'm not asking now the welfare system is defaurded. Frankly, I don't care. If they need help, they should get it.

There aren't millions of migrants out there with fake SSNs that were made by "the cartels." Because if there were, we wouldn't have an illegal migration problem at the border. We'd have a bunch of US citizen crossing back over the border.

Go find what your State does to verify citizenship that way you can stop believing in fairy tales about "migrant voters."

According to him, in Chicago where he claims he lives, SSDI - Social Security Disability Insurance - is not handled by their local Social Security offices (of which there are 12) which officially process such cases, but by Welfare offices.

So suffice to say there might be some alternate perspective coming from a certain source.

They're mailing mail-in ballots to non citizens.. This is no fairly tale like 900 genders. reality is reality whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

There's a verification system for that as well. What is it?

How do they verify that the vote is being mailed in by a registered voter?

This was just one small bust involving fake identification rings and Illegal immigrants -> https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/cook-county-sheriffs-office-fake-ids-migrants/

See how they got detected? They got found out. Your own reading has shown that there can't be a large-scale massive ID system in operation. This was 3 dudes, and they got found out and arrested.

So you know, from your own research that there isn't a massive scale operation to get migrants fake IDs.

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Tell me you don't know how gangs operate without telling me you don't know how gangs operate .

Show me evidence of wide-scale voter fraud. Because there's been 0 presented anywhere.

You insist it's happening, but you don't know how voter registration is handled. You said it's happening through the mail-in system. But you don't know how that's handled.

You have no evidence of wide-scale voter fraud and you have no idea how the system works. Yet you insist it's happen. FFS, indeed.

Again, you and your little buddy echoing your ignorance can't seem to grasp, this was a small operation by a branch of a massive gang. There are hundreds of these branches all over Chicago. One was caught, great , now just a few thousand more to go all over America. ffs.

The article does not say they were part of a larger operation. No where. Go back and re-read what they wrote instead of what you want to believe.

But you still haven't found out what the verification process is for voter registration or for mail-in ballots.

So where’s the proof illegals vote?

They are voting in local elections, they are getting driver licenses in Liberal states.. they are getting government hand outs, why is illegal voting so hard to understand?