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Another lie for the dummies.

I’ll take made up bullshit for 500.

Come on... Dems can't even do a sloped roof. There's no way that's a Democrat.
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Or imagine if it was us.... If Chinese tanks were rolling through Oklahoma, how many Americans would republicans say should be willing to die to try and stop them?

Ironically enough, repubs are the ones over here ranting about "foreign invaders" in shirts that say "never surrender" 🙄

If it was us I doubt any other country would be giving us billion and billions of dollars to help. Ukraine is not American tax payers responsibility. Why can't dems understand that the rest of the world needs to take care of itself.

"Why can't dems understand that the rest of the world needs to take care of itself."

Well for one eventually battles in "the rest of the world" might find their way to our door.

Also our economy would collapse without support from the rest of the world. We make almost nothing here and depend on other nations to provide. So if they're f*cked, we're f*cked.

Lastly my understanding is most of the "money" we are sending to Ukraine is weapons from our stockpiles, some of them however old... which we then get to watch them "test" in combat to see how well the work or don't work and why (valuable information).... and which are then to be replaced on our end with new ones.... meaning alot of the "$$$ to Ukraine" is actually going straight into American companies like Raytheon etc.

Goverment contracts companies like Raytheon.. they pay them with Tax payers money, we pay taxes so Government can pay Raythron to send military equipment to Ukraine. Its a losing game for the American tax payer. 117 billion so far...

One other thing, I am for allies - I am against being world police, most of all in the middle east. It is a never ending war over there and as long as we got our noses in their shit, it'll always be a burden on us.

Twenty years fighting the Taliban, and Trump signed Afghanistan over to them like it was nothing.

There are many reasons I don't like trump but Afghanistan stuff is pretty far down the list tbh..... I also remain unconvinced that democracies are a thing which can be successfully installed by outsiders so leaving kinda seemed doomed to fail. But maybe you think we shouldn't have left idk.

We shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
We had Army (AKA 'Evi Axis' Iranian) intel that bin Laden was holed up in a cave in Tora Bora, and that was the one single only place in Afghanistan that Bush wouldn't allow to be bombed - for something like the first 5 months. When he finally gave the go ahead, bin Laden had long escaped to Pakistan.

"Mission accomplished" in 2 weeks, should have went after bin Laden, and that's it, as James Carville once put it (but after a debate in 2012, if I got that right, or was it 2008?), "Call the dog, put out the fire, let's go home, this hunt's over."

Democracies have to be homegrown to work, and they also require economically developed and relatively modern societies to even begin. There's a reason why they always fail in poor countries. Nobody gives a crap about voting when you got two big bales of hay strapped to a donkey and you're walking 12 miles up a mountain to trade it for charcoal.

They also have a tendency not to work in societies such as in the Middle East or Russia where people are accustomed to millenia of exceedingly top heavy autocratic control. They like their kings. They like their feudal societies. It's what they know. It's what they value. Everything else is viewed as a suspect Western import/imposition, colonialism.

And Biden rearmed them with 10 billion dollars worth of military equipment after his pathetic withdrawal.

Yeah, too bad we didn't get to screw the Afghan army on the way out I leave them without equipment, innit?

LMFAO yea, that is who we left it for.. lmfao

No, Trump left it for the local chapter of the Kiwanis club.
- oh, wait, you're right. Trump did agree to leave that for the Taliban.
Thank you for reminding me of that!

Well you have a funny way of remembering things.. see I remember a pathetic ,irresponsible, knee jerk withdrawl from Afghanistan spear headed by a brain dead Joe Biden, that made America look not only weak and childlike , but also left billions in military equipment for the Taliban which then paraded it down streets in "victory".

I do!
That's why I keep articles like this stored up in my Politics_Templates™ stream.

5000 Taliban terrorists freed. By Trump. As a good will gesture. 5000.

And Biden Armed them, good stuff.

lulz...

So explain to the rest of us how no Russian aggression into former Soviet Union countries under Trump was a bad thing. . .and you can use big boy words if you want to. . .

You really have no clue what Manafort and Rudy were doing over there during the Trump years, do you?

Probably not doing the stuff you people accused them of doing. So your answer is a deflection which means you got squat.

Pretty sure that dodging a question of which it is pretty obvious the answer was already lined up to would be a deflection.

No Russian aggression during Trump?

Did he not promise on the campaign trail in 2016 that he would oust Russia from the region of Ukraine it occupied?
Did he not instead attempt to rescind and block sanctions against Russia multiple times, including in his very first days in office - and I'm talking within his first week, as in second or third day?

John Bolton, Trump's former National Security Advisor, said that Trump was waiting for 2021 to pull out of NATO and basically hand over Ukraine to Putin without opposition