Yes, I 'get you', Sobrmn. We think alike and even though I am female, I understand men. Nah, I take that back--I understand how 'normal' men think and can't for the life of me understand 'liberal' men (EVEN the 'biologically born leftist males'). I find little common ground as their reality has left the building as you know. But I do get you and thanks for the smile...