Another Election Stunt...Isn't It Interesting

Team Biden's wantonly shameless--no gaslight, goalpost-move, or deflection too gargantuan. imgflip.com/gif/8fkfry

Hiring on DEI, not experience, ability, or knowledge is never a good plan.
Biden seems to gaslight all the time I don't think he knows what goalposts are, and yes he's big on the blame game.

That is trippy. Upvote.

Lol
You captured that so well. :)

Wait wait wait how does a president set prices on cookies?
Last I checked no cookie corporations are owned by the state and the received millions for corn syrup subsidies which are common in cookies nowadays. (Well everything in name brands really.)

I’m all for throwing my political opponents under the bus for bad policy but I wouldn’t pin corporate greed predating bush junior on Trump.

It's not corporate greed. It's inflation going up 6+% every quarter.

Supply could not meet demand.

Prices went up.

Inflation soared.

Prices went up.

Young people crying they couldn't make ends meet on their wages and wide spread job vacancies caused employers to increase pay and government in some areas to legislate higher pay.

Prices went up.

Supply increased, inflation went down.

Prices stayed up.

Why?

The increased wages.

Who will accept lower pay for the same work now?

You had a nice rant there about young people but the same logic regarding products applies to workers.

( The supply could not meet demand. )

"Who will accept lower pay...?"

Possibly the people repubs are so intent on deporting. Well.. they act like they are anyway... maybe that explains nothing actually getting done.

Oh, I see a nerve was plucked.

The supply is ample, the willingness is not.

Higher wages equals higher prices.

Higher prices negate higher wages.

I don't understand blaming "evil corporations" while buying their goods with "insufficient" wages while complaining rent is unaffordable.

You see what you want to see.

Potato / Potáto. If the supply of willing workers is low, the supply of workers is low.

I understand a corporation's motivation for existing is basically money. Making as much money as possible. If they can charge double and people still buy at the same rate they did when it was half the price..... why not? Especially if inflations already in the conversation as a scapegoat. No no... I'm not price gouging.. it's inflation! 😜 Same with landlords and rent... and wages (except low instead of high).

I disagree.

The supply is equal to the number of idle people regardless of their level of willingness.

The unwilling are the source of their own financial problems and, like good "socialists", they pass their financial problems off on others.

Demand greater than supply increases prices.

Holding out for higher wages will work, but at a cost to the worker.

Companies pay more to produce a product they charge more to sell the product.

When my father was a young man a brand new truck cost around $2,000. That same truck, same manufacturer, costs around $45,000 today.

Tell me why.

When have you ever heard of prices across the board going down and staying there?

Inflation increased costs of supplies, materials, transportation, labor, utilities, services, etc., which created the need for increased prices.

Because the rate of inflation drops does not mean the effects of inflation evaporate.

Landlords require rent.

Rent requires money.

Idlers, aka unwilling workers, have none.

How should their unwillingness be rewarded?

Cheap rent?

Subsidies?

I have known people over the years that were unemployed and broke but wouldn't take a job offer because "it don't pay enough".

😄 They would then ask me to lend them some money!

No! You can't pay me back!

Some money is better than no money.

Every one of them deserved to be broke.

"I disagree.. The supply [of workers] is equal to the number of idle people regardless of their level of willingness [to work]."

I don't know how you can think that makes sense in context of this conversation.

If you're a small business and you have 20 people unwilling to work, I mean.... you can call them "workers" if you want but it don't really mean sh*t to a tree unless you can make them work.

Considering a supply of people who don't work as a supply of workers is like considering a bunch of guns that don't work an arsenal of weapons.

Tell you why the price of a truck has gone up?

Well the FEDs stated goal is 2% annual inflation. So prices should be expected to always go up. Sometimes the FED is on target sometimes they aren't. How many years ago was that? That could be 1 factor.

And I hear you saying the "same truck" but I bet there are probably many differences in the 2 trucks. Have you ever took apart an engine? The older truck is probably more simple to assemble.

How was their supply of workers willing to work?

How much more $$ do their C level executives make now?

Did the people building the trucks eat hamburgers? I've heard those used to cost a dime.

I will tell you how I can think that makes sense in the context of this conversation.

Your rebuttal is flawed.

I was speaking on people who do not work because they would not be paid an amount that they think they are worth, so they accept zero instead.

But I will entertain your analogies.

In your first analogy you state I have 20 people who won't work.

I would terminate their employment and replace them with people that will work.

In your second analogy you compared people that would not to work to a bunch of guns that don't work.

The people are sentient beings making a conscious decision to not work. The guns are inanimate objects that do not work due to mechanical defect.

The number of able bodied idle people is equal to the available supply of workers regardless of their willingness.

Say I go to the unemployment office to meet with 20 people and announce I need 10 workers for 6 months, but only 5 accept the job.

What was the number of the supply of available workers to whom I spoke?

Did the available workers that declined my job offer do so because they were unable to work or simply because they did not want the job?

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Of course there are differences in the vehicles; materials, technology, "bells and whistles".

I did not think I had to spell that out for you.

Should we address the fact that automation does several assembly tasks what used to be done by humans by hand, or the production/cost of steel versus plastic as well?

The engine blocks are basically the same, except iron vs aluminum.

Unless you are including fuel delivery systems...those are very different.

I am sure some of the workers ate 10¢ hamburgers, and many others ate the lunch their stay at home wife made them - always the cheaper and healthier than commercially prepared food.

Their supply to draw from was equal to the sum total of abled bodied people.

Now inflation added almost 1000% to the price of a $2,000 vehicle.

That should make the same vehicle about $22,000 as of January of this year.

Far lower than the $45,000 it actually costs.

I do not believe there is an additional $23,000 worth of gadgetry on the modern model.

That makes the price increase more than 2,000%.

1,000% more than the Fed's own 1,000% added due to their manipulation in creating inflation.

So why is the price twice the inflation adjusted price?

I don't know is a perfectly acceptable answer.

If an individual thinks theyre worth more money than theyre being offered, maybe they should shop around. If they do and still get no increase, maybe they're mistaken about what theyre worth.

But someone striving to work and make what they think theyre worth is not necessarily the same as a "good for nothing" etc...

Pretty sure technically when you stop looking for work you're no longer considered "unemployed" but you're talking about someone who does not even want to work. That seems like a step below simply not looking for a job.

A job could theoretically fall into someones lap not looking for it and maybe they would do it. This is not the case for someone who straight up does not want to work.

Explain the rationale behind zero earned money vs a little bit of earned money.. Who said these theoretical people were rational? Maybe they're on drugs etc and they just steal sh*t idk.

Unless they can be convinced to put the pipe, needle, or bottle down and work, they're not a supply of workers imo.. Idk why you think I'm grasping for straws about that. Maybe you're optimistic in your job offer convincing ability.. not sure.

And as far as trucks ya i'm assuming you're eventually going to blame biden and/or the democrats... but feel free to prove me wrong.

"I was speaking on people who do not work because they would not be paid an amount that they think they are worth"

K well you just called 'em the "unwilling" and said "regardless of the level of their willingness to work".

Me:
If the supply of willing workers is low then the supply of workers is low.

You: I disagree.

Me: what!? 🤨

Ok so the 20 people you fired in my example. They are unwilling to work period and therefore are of no use to you or any business. Their existence means nothing in the context of business productivity or a supply of workers or wage increases. Like a gun that won't fire in the context of hunting or self defense. (Although to be fair you could still pistolwhip someone with it)

As far as your unemployment office example, if the 15 out of 20 people there are just pretending to look for work and are actually unwilling to work period, I would say the supply of workers was the 5 who took the job.

The other 15 aren't workers. There could've been 2000 of them and it wouldn't mean sh*t to you or yor business except possibly filling you with false hopes of getting to pick and choose.

If 15 out of the 20 were only willing to do the job IF you paid them more money ....then they might be technically among the supply of workers (unemployed) but it still nods back to what I said at the beginning. Supply and demand. If the supply of workers willing to work for cheap was high you might not be having to resort to looking at the unemployment office in the first place, let alone only coming back with only half the amount of workers you need.

If the supply of willing workers (or workers willing to work for cheap) is low and many jobs are available, wages will be more likely to increase. The "young people crying" are of less importance than the actual supply of workers (willing to work or willing to work for cheap).

As far as trucks, why don't you just get to the point and blame Joe Biden and the dems already? 🙄😂

The gadgetry in vehicles today would be probably seen as sorcery if not extreme luxury to most people in the 60s.... wireless starting and door locks, Live parking cameras with color screens, Satellite radio, GPS, butt warmers, electric windows, Bluetooth phone connectivity, 0-60 in a couple seconds, and so on..

I forgot, as for the trucks.

You stated that Biden and the democrats are to blame.

Is that your answer to why the cost is twice the adjusted for inflation value?

Or do you resort to putting words in my mouth instead of simply saying you do not know why the cost of the truck is so high?

If the individual is worth more money, why are they only getting low value job offers?

Despite your straw grasping, I remain unchanged in the belief that unwillingness to work does not equate to unavailable for work, nor does it remove one from the supply of workers.

They had words for this unwilling to work type of person when my father was a young man:

Ne'er do well, slugabed, wastrel, idler, a good for nothing.

Maybe I'm just being "old fashioned".

Perhaps you can explain the rationale behind the thinking that doing nothing and having zero money is better than taking a minimum wage job and having some money until one can secure higher paying employment.

If the thinking is this will force employers to bend and pay $40/hr for $8 work, I believe it will fail.

Why do you think all the illegals are being welcomed? 😄🇺🇸

That's too much at one time.

Lets start with the rationale behind the preference for being an indigent and indignant unemployed individual versus accepting a low paying job offer until the individual can do better.

To quote a union general “they have robbed the cradle and the grave equally and have no more men to muster.”

The same thing can be said of the Democrat party of today.

The same thing can be said of the Democrat party of today.

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don’t turn up at all." — Sam Ewing

Correct if the pay is crap. People don’t show up for the job.

Thank you for summing up the “labor shortage”.

What are you talking about inflation was 1.70 this quarter so far, 2.6 last quarter in 2023, last year was 4.10 yet prices have nearly doubled while products have gotten smaller leading to the slang shrinkflations name.

It is in fact greed.

"Shrinkflation" isn't even a new thing... I've been noticing it for years.

One clear exception is flatscreen TVs... they keep getting bigger and cheaper.

🤨

To be fair im pretty sure Arizona has kept their tall cans @ $0.99 but I think they did that on the back of their plastic container beverages like the ones found at dollar tree.

12 big can variety pack just $29.99 on their website.

*opens box*
Heyy... this isn't "murder juice" 😔

Ah, but it is...look at the sugar content!

😄

Decades - remember how much fuller a small bag of chips used to be back in the day? Even by the 90s people were noticing how much air had replaced the sheer volume of chips in the bag.

🙃

Anything is possible with enough sweatshop labor.

I kid…mostly…

Not sure if TVs are (still?) made that way or not... 🤔

Maybe they used to be but now those jobs have been replaced with automation / robots.. Idk.

Part of it is probably just screwing people on the prices upfront when products first come out... and then gradually lowering the price of said products to more reasonable pricing as newer products come out that they can then screw people on.

Sounds like people are screwing themselves.

In terms of eliminating jobs for profit or being willing to pay inflated prices for the latest and greatest...or both?

Paying premiums for new products.

What is the difference in watching "the view" on granny's old console and watching it on a smart 4k ultra hd slim profile tv?

You are absolutely correct.

Now do one about people that say they can't afford rent buying a brand new one as soon as it comes out!
😄

Like when people camp out for 3 days waiting to pay megabucks for the new iPhone 58 just to see the price plunge a few months later.

Depends on the brand. Like one brand of the Chinese brands used concentration camp labor.

But that’s true new models with new gimmicks are way over priced then come down.

If the cost of ingredients have gone up 21% since Joe Biden has been president. How can you not expect a smaller portion for the same price, or a significantly higher price for the same amount?

By relying on denial, how else 😄

But I don't think that's going to help them. 😄
Unless they want to look like they really don't know what's going on.

They know but can never admit it.

It doesn't look good after having spent years chanting and ranting that Biden is saving the world.

The same people talking about the greed of others ignore their own.

That's all very true.

"....having spent years chanting and ranting that Biden is saving the world."

?????........ who? .. how?
🤔

I will play coy as well 😉

Who: Those who have.

What:. Biden is saving the world.

Where: Throughout the United States.

When:. Since 2015

How: With their voices.

Source

The only undisputable source that exists; your own statements.

I said Biden is saving the world?

Prove it.

Crickets

Inflation never hit 21% and the sugar industry is heavily subsidized.

What caused it? Simple.

Greed.

Is inflation really 20%?

More than 90% of the items tracked in the Consumer Price Index are more expensive than they were in February 2020, with most price increases landing north of 20% and some (fuel and margarine) approaching 55%, Bureau of Labor Statistics data shows. Dec 27, 2023

https://www.gro-intelligence.com/insights/a-look-at-rising-food-inflation

Inflation sent prices up initially.

Increased wages brought on by employer desperation and some states passing ridiculous legislation are keeping them high.

The same people that won't work for "lousy pay" complain about company greed for the lousy prices they are forced to pay.

Wage increases didn’t even account for 9% of price increases.

The complaint of labor costs has and always will be a lie used as a cudgel to pay workers less while increasing prices.

It's about supply, demand, and manipulation of the consumer. Sound about right?

Yes.

People and prices are manipulated.

It's very sad how they try to control us.

The Great American Experiment is not that you are free, it is that you can complain about it with out being out on a train to the camps. 😄

PUT, put on a train! 😄🇺🇸

If only it was that easy. Although they do seem to be warming up to indoctrination camps maybe that could be turned around on them.

The times they are a-changin'

That doesn't make me feel much better. But if no one in the government wants to hear what the people have to say, because all they care about is their special interests. Doesn't that say it all? 😏

It speaks volumes.

Look at New Yorkers.

A bar waitress now speaks down to them as though she possesses the wisdom to know what is best for them.

Politicians are supposed to listen to their constituents and act on those concerns.

Instead they spend their time trying to get federal money dumped in their state to use as campaign fodder.

But people keep electing them over and over again.

It is like any other abusive relationship.

"Why did you not throw him out?"

"He said he was sorry for lying to me, taking money out of my purse, ignoring me, and pushing me around. He promised it will be different this time."

You replace a battery you can't rely on, why not a representative?

If only there was a way to reprogram politicians to represent what their constituents want. But you are right it is a lot like an abusive relationship. They act really nice and tell you what you want to hear, then after you're in the relationship you see what a monster they are.