But That's None Of My Business

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There is nothing biological about self mutilation and dismemberment to appease your "social construct" of a distorted reality...these acts of behavior fall into mental illness.

That is known as Klinefelter Syndrome, a condition present in a very minor percentage of the population. Almost always always affecting males. NONE of Klinefelter Syndrome's symptoms would have anything at all to do with the mental health condition induced fantasy world of "transgenderism". The most significant problem associated with Klinefelter Syndrome is a reduced sperm count causing almost everyone with it to be infertile.
Now you have the FACTS I'll bet it wasn't what you wanted to hear huh.

So, why all the trans in the last 10 years? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the government run schools...

Next they'll ask you to account for Thai culture and native american "third gender" belief - which personally i think was just there explanation for homosexuality same as " transgender" is being used.

And the fish that can change genders.

Who do they think you are, the one true GOD?
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Could also be an indication that someone has no more patience for stupidity and has no problem saying exactly what they mean because f*ck your feelings.

Genetic mutation/damage. However they are victims of things beyond their own control and don't deserve hate. People who willingly do things to try and change their natural xx or xy body with no genetic damage/mutation is something else entirely. They to don't deserve hate either 'cause none of us are perfect. However trying to normalizing what they are doing doesn't help them or anyone in any fashion.

So-called 'Original Sin' was first noted when Eve & Adam covered their nakedness.

If the Gods wanted you clothed, you would have thick fur covering like any other mammal.

"antithesis

Because, for the millionth time, gender is inherently a psychological thing."

But in this comment, you're asking "what gender is XXY, then?"

Like the OP said in a comment, if gender is a psychological thing, then why bother altering the body to physiologically fit it?

I'm talking about your argument contradicting itself, not that haircuts, shaving, high heels, makeup, and even clothing apparel are an alteration of what we are born with.

But it's not a contradiction. The mutual exclusion between gender fluidity and altering your own body exists only in other people's heads.

I really do mean this: let's use haircuts as an example. Why is it that even smart people who know that expensive hairstyles are a product of the fashion industry and a money-making exercise in marketing driven by celebrity culture, why is it that even people who know that will get one? Because, first, it makes them feel better about how appealing their appearance is, and second, it produces a noticeable change in the way other people treat them including their bosses and their romantic interests.

And let me remind you - a haircut is very often the very absolute first step in gender affirming therapy! This is not unrelated! I'm not going off on an unrelated tangent to attempt a false equivalence: This is part of it!

So, look, if a person has realized that people like ToneDef are wrong about gender, and that gender is more related to how you feel about your own relationship with masculinity and femininity than about the features on your body...

...then why SHOULDN'T they also decide that if they alter that body, they can get in on some of that self-appreciation for their appearance, and to get in on how society gives a better experience to people who look a certain way? Why does recognizing that something is a purely social convention, mean that you shouldn't still want that social convention working for you? It's only an inconsistency if you still have some kind of acceptance for ToneDef's rulebook.

Except you flipped from it as psychological thing, to a physiological one.

ToneDef pointed out that physiological adaptations to conform to one of the only two genders described contradicts the assertion of it being a psychological issue.

I've been dressing in black since I was in my teens, but it ain't Goth. I bought nothing by HC Punk and Kate Bush from 1982-85 when everything else sucked, but I don't need to put my MC jacket on now to listen to it.

I don't think I did, Modda, if you really think about it.

OK, let's use your example: they're just clothes, the color of them doesn't really matter, and putting a band logo on the T-shirt is kind of a dead giveaway that something corporatist is going on that fans of the band would do well to have an awareness of. And YOU know that. And you ACT on that. And have done for a long time.

But don't you have any friends who KNOW all that, AGREE with all that, yet STILL have a Sisters of Mercy jacket that they just like wearing?

Do you give them shit for it? Do you tell them that's an inconsistency?

Or are there OTHER THINGS that they are after at that point when they put that t-shirt on? Have they in fact made their peace a long time ago that the corporatism behind the fashion doesn't stop them from the fact that those clothes mean something personal - maybe even spiritual - to THEM?

Are they not still distinct from the teenagers who were buying whatever clothes the magazines were advertising that week without any critical thought at all? They have the awareness. They see your point. But your point doesn't mean there's NO value to those clothes anymore.

It does to the people who hate black clothes! I get people like that all the time - strangers! - coming up to me and saying: "you know, if you ACTUALLY didn't care about fashion, you wouldn't just be wearing black all the time." And the only correct answer to that is "well, mind your own f**king business."

And to be clear, the choices a person makes for medical procedures performed on their body are none of anybody else's f**king business.

Psychological and physiological are two different things. Hence them being different words with different meanings.

I did not make any value judgements, simply pointed out that you took one position (gender is psychological) and then later contradicted it (gender is a reflection of the physical).

They are bodies being prepared for demon possession. (IMO)

I think you mean to say "for the millionth time, gender is inherently a biological thing". The way a person behaves, dresses and who they are sexually attracted to are cultural. None of those things change a person's gender. If they did, then trans-genders would not ever talk about or actually undergo "gender affirming surgery", which removes and/or mutilates their genitalia. Which utterly proves by the trans-genders themselves that a person's gender is defined by their genitalia.

Nicely put.

Gender is a part of culture, you know

It is related. And here's why:
A person with a p**is and testicles is a male.
A person with a va**na and uterus is a female.

So where do you get the information that gender does not correlate with genitilia?

When a male veteran gets their genitals blown off by an IED, we still call him a male even when he doesn't have a p**is nor testicles. So. THAT'S where I get that information from.

Source, please.

Do you stop calling someone male when they lose their genitals? No?

There, now you're a source.

So you do know biology
But how does an accidental bombing of an soldier has something to do with someone's choice to have themselves self-mutilated?

Do you just not remember saying this at all?

1. "I just did. Take your time"

No, you didnt. I was asking for an explaination of how gender doesn't correlate with genitilia and you respond with a non-sequitur about soldiers and their accidental self-mutilation.
If you can't answer my question then why waste your time?

Yes I do.
Now can you answer my question, please?

I just did

Take your time

2. And why do you post certain things that you're not aware of what you're saying?

Thar being your stance, you left off one little item
(for some people more than others)🤭...since gender is inherently psychological, there is no biological need to irreversibly augment the body's appearance. One only need to change their thinking. Besides, one may change their minds later. And as we ALL know, if you "become a woman", you're gonna be changing your mind all the time!
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Seriously though:

Tell me, how changing the appearance of one's biology changes the psychology?

Also, what new psychological challenges follow changing the appearance of one's biology?

And finally, what lifelong prescription medication regimen and psychiatric services can one expect to have to follow to continuously suppress their unchanged biology from invading their psychology?

Seriously ? Are you that unstable for real ?

I actually like the color salmon, pronounced Salmond
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