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Those that support this for others are properly known as "enablers". | "It's not a mental illness, but if I can't surgically mutilate my body, I will kill myself!" is not a coherent argument. | image tagged in professor doggo,mental illness,liberal logic,tragic,evil | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups, 11mo
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4 ups, 11mo
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2 ups, 11mo,
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MASH Transgender | TRANSGENDERS ADMIT THEY HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS SO THOSE PROBLEMS SHOULD BE TREATED BY A PSYCHIATRIST, NOT A SURGEON | image tagged in mash transgender | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1 up, 11mo,
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Yes I agree, Trans folk should go to a psychiatrist since a psychiatrist would know best about if they should transition or not, and then have surgery if it is best for them. glad we agree :)
0 ups, 11mo
"glad we agree"

Sophomoric, infantile, and simple . . .
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1 up, 11mo
I get your meme and totally understand it. But can we stop and appreciate how adorable the dog looks in the picture.
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1 up, 11mo
Yes, you are 21 years old, yes you are....
3 ups, 11mo,
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Yeah and using strawman arguments is even more incoherent. They are saying that those surgeries are proven to help mental health issues such as anxiety and depression.
Calling others mentally ill to when you're lying to yourself and others about something that is proven to be a good thing by most research by completely lying about what they're saying is considerably ironic.
5 ups, 11mo,
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Proven? lmfao Is that why the suicide rates stay just about the same even after "transition"? If Surgery was a cure to gender dysphoria (which you are claiming) suicide rates would end for 99% of those that get it. It doesn't, proving it is a mental illness. Only other group that has those rates of suicide are manic depressives and schizophrenics.
3 ups, 11mo,
4 replies
Sorry, I probably should've given my sources

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
This link proves that: 1. Mental challenges such as Depression, anxiety, and most importantly, Suicidal thoughts are reduced by transition. 2. transition boosts confidence. And 3. People who lack support and cannot access treatment struggle with Depression, Anxiety, and suicidal thoughts more.

And calling others mentally ill while saying that the scarily high suicide rates among trans folk is from being trans and not from lack of support, harassment, being called mentally ill, etc, is hilariously ironic

Also here's some more sources because why not:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-the-science-on-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-kids-really-shows/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/trans-teens-benefit-from-gender-affirming-care/2023/01/20/955f807c-98bd-11ed-a173-61e055ec24ef_story.html

https://www.statnews.com/2023/01/18/mental-health-benefits-of-gender-affirming-hormones-for-teens-persist-two-years/
6 ups, 11mo
Sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially.

demonstrated in The comprehensive book, “When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment,” the medical evidence suggests that sex reassignment does not adequately address the psychosocial difficulties faced by people who identify as transgender. Even when the procedures are successful technically and cosmetically, and even in cultures that are relatively “trans-friendly,” transitioners still face poor outcomes.

Dr. Paul McHugh, the university distinguished service professor of psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, explains:

Transgendered men do not become women, nor do transgendered women become men. All (including Bruce Jenner) become feminized men or masculinized women, counterfeits or impersonators of the sex with which they ‘identify.’ In that lies their problematic future.
When ‘the tumult and shouting dies,’ it proves not easy nor wise to live in a counterfeit sexual garb. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.
4 ups, 11mo
Why would you be suicidal in the first place then?

There are equal numbers of sources that have the opposite opinion.

If you don't have the mental illness "gender dysphoria" then you are either just an attention seeking pretender ( which i suggest constitutes a degree of mental illness), or someone struggling with homosexuality.
5 ups, 11mo,
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All suppositions and fantasy. This all too new on such a scale for them to be conclusive on any of it.

The very fact that a person wants to follow this path is proof enough that they are mentally ill.

And, of course, none of your links go to information regarding the every growing number of those who regret ever doing this in the first place- adults who regret what they permanently did to their bodies.

Children are unable to make such decisions, yet no one behind the information at the end of those links will support preventing mutilating children, or permanently destroying their brain chemistry with puberty blockers.

And then there is what our eyes show us- desperately sick and twisted.

btw- you do know that thoughts of suicide are a sign of mental illness? If getting destructive "health care" is what it takes to MAYBE put those thoughts of suicide aside, perhaps it best to find less harmful methods of dealing with the suicide?

One wonders why we don't have records of billions of suicides in previous decades and centuries before such barbaric practices were conceived.
3 ups, 11mo
"And, of course, none of your links go to information regarding the every growing number of those who regret ever doing this in the first place- adults who regret what they permanently did to their bodies."
Besides, y'know, the first link I put in the message. The one that said that at the very most, the regret rate is around 2%. and other numbers I saw (but I don't have a source for so take this with a grain of salt) put it at around 0.75% at most.

No sane person will say that there shouldn't be restrictions on gender affirming care for youth, but another thing no sane person will say is that it shouldn't exist, considering the links I sent to studies proving that they benefit from it. also quick reminder that puberty blockers have been used on cis kids for decades without any problems.

Y'all really can't make an argument without calling something that it just is not to try to create fear, want to know what it is? Safe surgeries that are proven to help peoples well being and has an insanely low regret rate compared to most other surgeries.
4 ups, 11mo
We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs. - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/
5 ups, 11mo
And if lying to yourself is a bad thing, then lying to yourself that there is no God, Who creates us male and female, intentionally so, would be THE sign of a mental illness.

You are confused because you have no basis for what you call "morality". What you have is ever-changing because it is not based on reality, and your beliefs do long hold up under the light of truth, facts, and real science.
2 ups, 11mo
I am willing to listen, but you say trans are menatlly ill and not mentally ill here at the same time.
2 ups, 11mo,
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You are misinformed.
1 up, 11mo,
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Damn I thought I was right but then some random dude said I was misinformed with literally no sources, how will I ever recover?
1 up, 11mo,
1 reply
You are mistaken in your thinking.

I don't require sources to know that you are misinformed.
1 up, 11mo,
1 reply
Okay then how am I mistaken in my thinking?
0 ups, 11mo,
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The "science" isn't concrete, speculative at best, regarding this issue.

There are equal amounts of conflicting opinions voiced by experts.

You are simply choosing an opinion that agrees with your ideology.
1 up, 10mo
So why do you believe what you believe??????

Also I wouldn't really call a statistical analysis of 55 studies, some of which not even saying that transition benefits overall well being "Speculation"
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