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Touch My Child & You will get touched | LEFTISTS NOW WANT A 
LAW TO TAKE AWAY THE CHILD FROM THE PARENT -; IF THE PARENTS  DON'T ALLOW TRANSGENDER CHILD SURGERY. TRY IT, AND 
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3,336 views 54 upvotes Made by equestrian 2 years ago in politics
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7 ups, 2y
And society crumbles more and more... God my life is already complicated but damn.
7 ups, 2y
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4 ups, 2y
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4 ups, 2y
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Wtf
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
0 ups, 2y
KITTY!
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Proposing? It’s here.

https://sd11.senate.ca.gov/news/20220930-senator-wiener%E2%80%99s-historic-bill-provide-refuge-trans-kids-and-their-families-signed-law

Only it’s actually to prevent people from taking trans children from their parents.

Because there are actually laws being proposed by the right to do that.

The same kind you just demonized in this OP.

Then tried to turn it around as if you’re the victims.

When you’re suppose to be the ones supposedly for parents rights.

When you’re not actually for parents rights like you weren’t for women’s health in regards for abortion.

Just do what you did for abortion to get the home run and stop pretending it’s about the parents rights.

And keep it on script that it’s about “protecting” kids.

It’s not that hard.
4 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Do you agree with the subject matter of the proposed law the OP mentioned?
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Not only does the law not exist, it is not even being purposed.

…except by strawmanning anti-lgbt punks who are just making shit up! Again.

What is being purposed is protections from state legislations that want to expand the definitions of parental abuse to include letting their children explore their gender identity (wear different clothes, have nicknames, etc).

I don’t agree with any law that forces people to make any personal liberties arbitrary.

It’s a culture war.

Anti-lgbt legislation prompted pro-lgbt.

Can we just skip to the end and stop thinking we can redo the whole civil rights and suffragette movement again only with a different result?

It bores me and most moderate Republicans who are devout but understand our morals are not Constitutional and forcing our morals on others is overall antithetical. The ends justify the means but not at the expense of our own morals as Christians, let alone Freedom loving Americans.

Our enemies are not the lgbt, nor teachers, nor scientists, nor doctors. Not immigrants, or Muslims. Not police officers or government officials. Not lawyers and judges. Not even the media.

Our enemies are the do-nothing corporate shills in office.

And we, Republicans, fall for it. Every. F**KING. Time.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
If the law mentioned by the OP were being proposed, you would not support that law, correct?
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
So you didn’t read my comment.

Shame.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I read your comment.

I like simple yes or no answers to some questions.

I included a clarifying question in my reply to avoid any misinterpretation.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
I included a clarification in my answer as well. And I’m sorry it’s too wordy for you to understand.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Why avoid a simple answer? Do you really prefer cat and mouse, typing paragraphs instead of a single word?
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Oh, I’m sorry. I assumed you read my comment. I apologize that paragraphs were too much of an inconvenience for you to read.

I shall repeat myself.

I don’t agree with any law that forces people to make any personal liberties arbitrary.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Still won't answer simply yes or no.

Why not?
0 ups, 2y
I did answer you. Twice.

Troll me, I troll back.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
You want to make a law that prevents parents from mutilating a child? Cool. Already a law, but cool. Next.

But adding anything with the agenda to specially target lgbt people, that is not the realm of the Constitution.

The Constitution was not made for you to criminalize groups of people YOU don’t like.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Remember you said the constitution was not made for one to criminalize groups of people one doesn't like.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
That is what I said. I assume you’re now going to attempt to accuse me of hypocrisy.

Good luck.
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
No, you assume incorrectly.

I'm encouraging you to remember your statement when there comes a time legislation is proposed to criminalize groups of people you don't like.

Hypocrisy is its own accuser.
6 ups, 2y,
2 replies
It's already happening in our country. Step one: Turn groups of people against each other. Step two: over tax and shit down business owned by groups you don't like. Step three: criminalize groups you don't like and throw them in prison. Step four: Murder entire groups of people you don't like.

We're on step two, about to go into step three.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
It seems far fetched even as we observe it happening, doesn't it?
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Yet, we appear to overwhelmingly support it and when someone points out that simple fact, we go right back into this so-called artificial social war.

It’s almost like it’s not artificial at all if people keep falling for it.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
What are people falling for ?
0 ups, 2y
That lgbt, pronouns, abortion, guns, climate change, voter registration, mandates, reparations, etc matter.

What has always mattered are these three pillars.

Education.

Healthcare.

Military.

Period.

And when we view teachers, doctors, and even our own vanguard as the enemy.

Then we will never be United.

By design.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Yes. Republicans should stop trying to enforce morals into social issues.

That isn’t conservatism.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
All sides are trying to enforce morals into social issues.

Which one is correct and why?

What is conservatism?

Keep it simple, clear, and concise so that I, and others, can understand.
0 ups, 2y
True that both sides are trying to enforce morals into social issues.

I’d wager the one legislating the most to be wrong, or the least to be correct.

Please point to just how much the left’s regulation of social issues in America impede an individual’s liberty in recent years versus the right.

Republicans overwhelmingly and unfortunately wins at being more liberal in it’s legislation than Democrats.

As a conservative, I find this much more alarming than drag shows, and people using bathrooms, people marrying, serving in the military, or being sponsored by corporations.

This isn’t Canada where using the wrong pronouns constitutes a hate crime.

Conservatism is about preserving what is established, not tearing down what was established to reboot the country back to factory settings.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
You assume there are people I don’t like who I want in jail beyond the usual suspects.

You know, murderers, thieves, rapists.

I don’t need any new laws to jail the people I supposedly don’t like. They don’t need jail. They need education. Not reeducation, not rehabilitation, just good old fashion information. But if they don’t want it, then that’s on them. Not me.

The liberal Republicans who feel the need to insert their social issues into legislation that result in locking up and rounding up women, doctors, and lgbt people of all ages don’t need jail. Yes, I call these people liberals. Not all liberals, but certainly these are the worst contenders.

Our legislators don’t need to appeal to them,
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I assumed nothing. I just stated remember those words when.

1) Why do you believe that anyone that doesn't share your position needs educated?

2) Why don't you need educated?
0 ups, 2y
You have made an assumption that my position would change otherwise I fail to see the point that I need to remember those words. Remember those words when what? My position has not changed and you are assuming it will.

Most people whom I argue appear to either have an uninformed opinion or are unaware of the facts. I present that facts when apparent and far too often they are dismissed because they’re too inconvenient and conflict with their perspective which on some context is formed by an erroneous information.

I do need to be educated. I welcome anyone to try.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I hadn't heard of that happening. More information please
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
My understanding is that the state of Florida is trying to pass a bill that would allow the government to take transgender children from their parents if the parents are supportive of their children being transgender
2 ups, 2y
Government has no place in the home.

If legislation is necessary legislate what medications/procedures doctors can provide children.

I am of the opinion that the "age of consent" set by each state be applied to set the minimum age at which a child can make gender altering decisions and doctors can provide the services requested.

Kids are easily swayed by external influences.
Their parents generally mean well. They want their children to thrive and be happy. But often parents are too indulgent with some living vicariously through their kids.

There are age requirements for other behaviors/activities that require a certain level of maturity - working, driving, having one's own bank account, consenting to sex with adults, purchasing alcohol/tobacco, etc. Why should the decision to permanently alter one's chemistry, modify one's body warrant any less safeguarding?

I believe it is a standard medical practice that a tubal ligation will not be performed on a woman of child bearing years, under 25 or 30, that doesn't already have two children - barring medical necessity. Feel free to fact check that as I am unsure if it is universal practice or just doctor's choice.

Again, my opinions. When it comes down to it, it's neither the government's nor my business what goes in anyone's home or what they do to themselves.

So, I would disagree with the law you describe.

I would perhaps install a required period of documented psychiatrically care for the child and the parents, jointly and separately, at a minimum to determine if it is truly the child's desire or the parent's desire. Impose this on the medical establishment leaving the home autonomous.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Oh, but you're ok with the state taking children away from their parents too... LOL

Washington state PASSED a bill allowing children to legally be taken away from their parents for not consenting to gender transition procedures on their child.
2 ups, 2y,
2 replies
"Oh, but you're ok with the state taking children away from their parents too"

If the parents are abusive, absolutely
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Nothing in that about being abusive...
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Abuse to the left is a parent not letting a child get gender reassignment surgery. That is why they use blanket terms like "abuse" with no context. Same thing with "living wages" what does that even mean?
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
The wages of sin is death so I reckon living wages are for non sinners.

I know not very funny if at all but you gotta gimme a break, Steven Colbert's writers are providing my jokes as a side job while they're on strike
3 ups, 2y
LoL no worries
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Could you be any more vague? lol. Who sets the standard of what constitutes abusive behavior? I'm sure we're all in agreement that a child that is being sexually abused would be abuse. How about parents that allow their child to be castrated or be given puberty blockers? I would say that is a form of abuse, but I'm sure you wouldn't.

And what about spanking a child? Is that abuse? And who decides this? I don't believe the government should have any jurisdiction in our personal lives. They have a long history of going too far.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
"Who sets the standard of what constitutes abusive behavior?"

Legislators, probably

"How about parents that allow their child to be castrated or be given puberty blockers? I would say that is a form of abuse, but I'm sure you wouldn't"

I don't think giving puberty blockers is abuse, but children aren't being castrated

"And what about spanking a child? Is that abuse?"

I think it can be. Is it always abuse? I don't think I'd go that far.

"And who decides this? I don't believe the government should have any jurisdiction in our personal lives. They have a long history of going too far."

They also have a long history of not going far enough (i.e. ignoring cases of abuse for one reason or another)
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"I don't think giving puberty blockers is abuse": Do you honestly believe that preventing puberty at the appropriate, natural time of life is harmless? This intervention cannot be casually reversed later on without consequences. A good friend of mine suffered from delayed puberty syndrome- he literally looked and sounded like a 11 year old kid when he entered college. He was given a testosterone induced artificial puberty in his 20's. Initially, it worked out: he now has kids. But as he has now entered his middle years, the side effects have hit: he has a degenerative neurological condition complete with uncommanded hand motions, vocal ticks, and facial ticks when he isn't focusing on a task. And these symptoms are only getting worse with age. Many of these people who are taking big doses of the incorrect hormones for their physical gender will be facing a similar future. You cannot freely mess around with hormone injections and puberty blockers without eventually paying the piper.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"Do you honestly believe that preventing puberty at the appropriate, natural time of life is harmless?"

I never said it was completely without risk
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
That's why it should NEVER be done to kids!
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
If something should never be done to kids because there is some risk then that means kids should never receive any medical treatment at all, of any kind, ever
0 ups, 2y
Are honestly putting interfering with the normal, healthy development of kids in the same boat as necessary, life saving medical procedures that carry a risk?!
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