Bad Pun Dog

Because?Its?A?Joke?

I feel like it's offensive to gay people

I'm gay and I think it's funny

oh cool

i think that as well

why would you add a question mark after every word

idk

No, what the lgbtq community is doing to our education system and our kids is offensive.

Bro

I would've agreed with you if you didn't pull out the "lgbtq is enforcing their beliefs on us"

That's exactly what's going on and nobody can change my mind

“You told the truth so I don’t agree with you.” 🤨

1. That isn't the truth

2. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that he lost my respect becuse he could've responded with an actual reason to why the original comment was stupid. Instead, he just took the lazy way and did the generic "NOOOOOOOOOO FORCING KIDS TO SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS BAAAAADDDD"

1. It is true
2. Are you blind?

Also supporting human rights doesn’t mean agreeing with those that go against science and logic

Who here is going against science and logic?

Seriously?

Oh no! the depravity, they are showing our kids empathy and making them treat other humans with respect!!!!!!!!!!!

Forcing someone to approve and advocate for someone's personal opinions and behaviors is not treating people with respect.

Yeah, you're right!
Respecting people is understanding and respecting their opinions and how they feel, not pushing their boundaries and forcing things that are wrong for them upon them. respecting people means that you don't comment on the fact that people feel different and aren't some boring ass bitch with nothing special about them like you :)

We're done here. You're here to argue philosophy and debate politics. I'm here to stand for truth. We are not the same.

Thank you. Og right here

Thank you

Dude just doesn't appreciate some solid jokes mixed in with a whole lotta truth

Yeah

You have a habit of backing out of discussions you are unable to back up with facts - and by facts I mean correctly referring to that which you are referring to within its own context, not necessarilly facts as in proven to be absolutely true.

-🤓

You're wrong there, I'm here to debate with you what is the truth for a large community of people and what people like you need to understand is that some people aren't the same boring ass bitch that you are and have their own way of living. The truth is that they just want the same rights as you cis white males have because all of the problems in the world are because of you and your f**king stupidity

aye

Everyone’s special in a way
Gay people just push that theory a bit far

ong

Grrr forcing people to support human rights

Supporting human rights doesn’t mean agreeing with those that go against science and logic

Who's doing that?

Which is why we need to teach gay kids that they're not weird for being gay and straight kids that they exist

Genesis 19 verses 4 and 5 state that the men of the city crowded around Lots house and demanded that the angels sent to rescue Lot were to be brought out so they could "know them". This is the same "know" used when it states Adam "knew" his wife. Sodom and Gomorrah was a homosexual city and in verse 24, "then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven." That word "Lord" is the same Hebrew word used to define Jesus, so He did infact condemn such practices.

You conveniently left out the part where Lot offered his own daughters to be gang raped by a violent mob. The Bible describes Lot as a righteous man. So your god thinks it's righteous to let your children be gang raped.

That was because the men were trying to rape male angels and despite that, he was actually concerned enough for them that he tried to prevent them from doing it by all costs (because they would have gotten themselves cursed or killed for it). Tbh I wouldn't consider the Lot family line role models, and they're not the most righteous people in the Bible. Also it's ridiculous to suggest that because Lot is considered righteous everything he did is considered good. David is considered righteous and he killed a man and stole his wife, and we know for a fact God did not approve of that. People sin. Even the righteous.
Do you consider yourself moral? And if so, have you made mistakes in life? We all do, so we should stop expecting perfection of people we don't like and giving grace to those we deem worthy of it. Who made us arbiters of judgement? Judgement is up to the Lord. It's caring to warn people of it so they don't end up on the wrong end, but to try and use examples from the past that God clearly took issue with is just out of context and wrong.

Imagine arguing over a book and writing all that

Lord of the Rings
people argue over those books a whole lot

They’re gonna ruin the entire circus industry

well after Rings of Power i would argue they got a good reason

clearly you’ve never seen a LOTR fan fiction site
those people are completely obsessed with it

What

*man offers his own daughters to be gang raped*

"That was because..."

There is no "that was because". There is no defending that. That's disgusting and barbaric. Do you honestly want to defend that sort of thing just because the Bible does?

"he was actually concerned enough for them that he tried to prevent them from doing it by all costs"

So "rape my kids instead" is so much better?

"Also it's ridiculous to suggest that because Lot is considered righteous everything he did is considered good"

Show me the verse where god says Lot was wrong for offering his daughters to be gang raped

"Do you consider yourself moral?"

More moral than yahweh, that's for sure

"And if so, have you made mistakes in life?"

I've made plenty of mistakes in life. None of them involved letting children get gang raped.

"we should stop expecting perfection of people we don't like and giving grace to those we deem worthy of it"

There's a huge difference between demanding perfection and expecting a parent to protect their children, and you know it

"Who made us arbiters of judgement?"

We did

"Judgement is up to the Lord"

No it's not. And if you say it is, how do you prove that?

No. And I didn't say it was righteous. I actually said later in the paragraph that I wouldn't consider that family as righteous people anyway. And just bc God said they were doesn't make them perfect. Lot's same daughters raped him by the way.

I don't think it was better tbh. I would've let those ppl get killed if they insisted of trying to rape male angels bc that already is extremely revolting. (Ofc this is Sodom we're talking about; everything about them was revolting). Apparently he cared for them enough to not want them punished forever. I personally think they deserved that. But then again, so do I, and I would never think to do anything of the sort.

Show me the verse where God says he's right for it. Genesis is a history book, not a condemnation book. There's lots of effed up crap that happens in it. Reuben banged one of his father's maids, Simeon and Levi tricked a tribe into joining the circumcision covenant and then killed the whole tribe while they were in pain, Lot's daughters raped him, Ham tried to humiliate his father in front of his brothers, Potiphers wife tried to cheat on him with his slave, who was sold by his jealous brothers, Cain killed his brother, etc. It even says before the flood that men just took women whenever they pleased and God got so tired of it that He said "I ain't allowing men to live longer than 120 years." If you made a TV show about Genesis the way it is, it would be rated NC-17. It's in the Bible because it's historical, not because it should be followed.

More moral than God, or more moral than the messed up people who follow Him? Because many confuse the two and think that because God allows ppl to sin, He condones it.

I would argue that advocating for trans people to go into their "new gender's" bathrooms is almost encouraging rape (especially since porn and oversexualization are rampant in the community). Idk if you've defended that or not, but it ends in rape so often that something should be done about it, but anyone who says this is violating people's feelings and somehow they become evil. Give me a break. If ppl got an issue with God for calling Lot righteous for what he did, how the heck can they stand for this nonsense? Because nobody's at stake here so they don't even have Lot's excuse, no matter how bad it is.

"Lot's same daughters raped him by the way."

ooops, beat me with what I was saving for a later retort.
Offers daughters for gang rape, later daughters get daddy soooooo drunk he manages to prong em BOTH without recognizing them (they have Viagra back then? Because last any fella ever checked ever, you get that blindly drunk, you couldn't get it up with a crane), but the gay is supposed to be bad? Sure, makes sense.

"Parents should protect their children"
And many people nowadays believe otherwise and think children are the government's property, to educate and "protect". But anyway I don't believe Lot was right in this instance.

And we have been proven to be extremely gullible and stupid. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Mussolini, Castro and Guevara, and Pol Pot all got into power because a majority of humans in the area had stupid judgement and they got fooled. What makes you so confident that humanity as a whole isn't under the same sway? Even though the left hates the culture, they'd have to travel to another culture or travel back in time to even comprehend other viewpoints that might be taboo to everyone in this culture, whether right or left wing. We only live for several decades. What wisdom do we get? We don't experience enough to consider ourselves wise. WWII veterans or USSR escapees or China/North Korea escapees might have different perspectives on culture than we do bc they've seen persecution in action and we as a people often take our freedom for granted. We know nothing. Humans have documented history for thousands of years and all we can do is study the bare minimum summary of things that happened and fill in the blanks in our imagination. But 60 years out of thousands is absolutely nothing. We are horrible judges. Our stupid judgements get dictators elected many times, causing hundreds of millions of deaths (Hitler, Stalin, and Mao by themselves killed over 100 million people), and we think we're smart.

God, on the other hand, sees all and knows all. His judgment is far more calculated than ours could ever be. Even if we would disagree with Him had we been given the same knowledge, we can't assume that in our state, because we know absolutely nothing. We can tell God we know better than Him when we've actually seen something. Its like a kid thinking he should go on the candy diet and his parents not allowing it (for obvious reasons), but on a much bigger scale.

Just because the Bible DEscribes something does not nor will it ever PREscribe something.

Show me the verse where god says Lot was wrong for offering his own children to be gang raped

There’s no verse that specifically states that lot was wrong, however we can find verses that condemn what lot did, especially offering those with sex before marriage, and there’s also verses that condemn those who purposely make others do wrong.
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭

Premarital sex (adultry) is also a serious sin. It’s even in the Ten Commandments “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
‭‭“Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but w**remongers and adulterers God will judge.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13‬:‭4‬

Condemn what Lot did? Didn't Yahweh select HIM and his family and only them to escape His destroying of two cities?

Here, find the condemnation for this one:

Judges 19:24 (KJV):
Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing

He too, like Lot, was a hero of that story.
Seen Yahweh nuking any cities lately because a mob passed up on the chance to rape someone's little girls? Are there any other Sunday School lectures about any other such stoies, I just chanced upon that one the other month by accident.

Oh, in that tale, well, it wasn't two cities blasted to oblivion but the Levite's concubine who was, well, raped to death. And this was after she has escaped his scuzzy old hands and ran back home. He went to get her, and that's how she ended up. Yeah, can you hear the chorus of the angels sing Hallelujah for that one?

"There’s no verse that specifically states that lot was wrong, however we can find verses that condemn what lot did"

The passage in Matthew doesn't refer to what he did

"Premarital sex (adultry) is also a serious sin. It’s even in the Ten Commandments “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” "

Premarital sex is fornication, not adultery.

Yeah, I got the adultery and fornication thing mixed up, but even then there’s verses against that.
“Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.”

“For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4‬:‭3‬-‭7‬

The passage in Matthew does not refer to what he did specifically, but it does speak against causing others to to wrong. in what your case is seen here, lot offered her daughters to do something wrong, which according to this passage is wrong: Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; **but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh**

In case you don’t get it, an offense in this passage refers to a wrongdoing or sinful act.

"known" in the story means having had sex. Same as when the mob called for the two men to be brought out so they may "know them."

There was no dating then . Marriages were arranged.

"Premarital sex is fornication, not adultery"

Except fornication bonds you to that person (to date why a marriage can be anulled if there is no sex), therefore sex with anyone else would be adultery.

i sleep because argument BORIIIING

Man imma upvote you, fellow Christian

You stay too my guy

"Sodom and Gomorrah was a homosexual city"

False.

"That word "Lord" is the same Hebrew word used to define Jesus"

False.

LETS GOOO

Bruh since when was Christianity brought into this? One thing, some people here are Jewish and Muslim and don't follow religion at all. Dumbass☠

we don't. just don't tell kids about it

Telling kids about it leads to them being able to express themselves and become a great thing by teaching them that they can be whatever they want and still be excepted.

Don't tell kids it's okay to be different?

Bro shut up already

No!

You mean like using ad hominens on those who treated you respectfully simply because you didn't even know the subject you're claiming to defend and they had to state it for you?

Our kids don’t need gay people
They need education

By the looks of it you need education too

How?

exactly

Cheers brother

Who are you?

wrong person :P

mb

Fine

Oh it’s ok :)

thx :)
hows ur day so far

That statement doesn't even make sense

"It makes sense because I said so."

ong

Mfw when I have no argument so I just say "I don't care"

bro deleted his account

"cough cough, the mfking city of Los Angeles is run entirely by the left and it is a heaping pile of GARBAGE"

Let's look on a wider scale. Which countries are run by the left?

Norway is widely considered one of - if not the most progressive countries in the world. Its political system is generally supportive of civil rights. In fact, all of Scandinavia (very developed countries) have progressive ideas. Denmark was the first country to legalize gay marriage (domestic partners - kinda confusing) Sweden, Iceland, and Finland all have generally liberal ideas and governments, too. Same thing with New Zealand. An while Switzerland is famously neutral, that ain't the case with civil rights though.

ok do i care

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Look into which parts of the country have more wealth versus less wealth

Spoiler: Democrat run areas are wealthier

cough cough, the mfking city of Los Angeles is run entirely by the left and it is a heaping pile of GARBAGE

Because all the most populated cites are run by Democrats?
You want to know what else is true about Democrat run areas? They lead the nation in crime rates.

So true

"We don’t need lgbtq in the world"

Yeah well LGBTQ people exist and there's nothing you can do about it

-🤓

You do realize it takes STRAIGHT people to make more Gay people. Two guys and two ladies can't birth a child unless the seed of man meets the womb of woman

"You do realize it takes STRAIGHT people to make more Gay people"

No it doesn't. Bisexual people exist, they aren't straight, and they can reproduce

STFU

getting kinda mad that you're wrong

That’s tough

getting kinda mad that you’re gay

Wuh oh! You said something completely wrong! Better luck next time!

There is a procedure where a woman can get pregnant without having sex, and if one of the woman is a trans woman there is a chance they are still fertile so yes, lesbians can have children

And adoption too

Yall are forgetting gay couples just adopt kids

I wonder who makes those kids

-🤓

"You're a bigot for not holding my opinion" is not empathy. Nothing about modern culture is empathetic - except only toward ppl they deem worthy of empathy.

Frfrfr

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"I would argue that advocating for trans people to go into their "new gender's" bathrooms is almost encouraging rape"

Then why aren't trans people committing rape at higher numbers than other people? Or do you mean straight people would rape trans people? Either way it's an unrealistic statement.

"especially since porn and oversexualization are rampant in the community"

In what community? The transgender community? Where did you hear that?

"Idk if you've defended that or not, but it ends in rape so often that something should be done about it"

I don't even know what you're referring to

"If ppl got an issue with God for calling Lot righteous for what he did, how the heck can they stand for this nonsense?"

I'm really not following your argument here. Are you comparing somebody letting their own children get raped to a transgender person going to the bathroom?

"What makes you so confident that humanity as a whole isn't under the same sway?"

The sway of falling for bad leaders? Maybe it is.

"Even though the left hates the culture"

No it doesn't

"We don't experience enough to consider ourselves wise"

We don't have to experience everything ourselves. We can listen to what other people have experienced and learn from them. I didn't live through World War II, but I can read stories about people who did and see how horrible it was.

"we as a people often take our freedom for granted"

I agree

"God, on the other hand, sees all and knows all"

There's no way to demonstrate that

"We can tell God we know better than Him when we've actually seen something. Its like a kid thinking he should go on the candy diet and his parents not allowing it (for obvious reasons), but on a much bigger scale."

Any analogy that compares God to parents is bad because people can actually prove their parents exist. It would be like if somebody's parents told them that somebody who lived far away wants them to eat healthy, but then gives them bad food. Why should the kid care what this person far away says about their diet, assuming they even believe the person is real?

Many Christians have the mindset that because their religion lays out rules, everybody should have to follow those rules, even people who are not Christians. And yet those same Christians complain when Muslims try to do the same thing. "I'm not a Muslim, so why should I have to follow sharia law?" Then they'll turn around and try to pass laws in the US because of what the Bible says

there are many cases where biological males go into bathrooms or prisons with biological women and rape them, but the media won’t cover it because they’re still stuck up on how racist and sexist and transphobic the country is. (I mean, why does anyone pay attention to the media anymore, they legit reported the Darrell Brooks incident as “Car Runs Over 6 People” because a black man got mad and killed 6 white people, and that goes against their hate crime narrative). Some people have said it’s transphobic for a woman to instinctively cover up around a biological man who identifies as a woman. That’s just being perverted.

From people actually involved in the community, and people who used to be a part of it. Also have you seen pride parades? Porn is a major problem that is addictive and creates an instinct in people to want to rape people and bang people as much as possible, and some men who just want to see porn of women as much as possible find lesbian porn more satisfying than straight porn (bc more women involved), and this feeds into the gay community. This may be why many people feel like “sexual orientation” is not a choice, but something you were born as. Porn has always been geared towards men (even though now women can want to get into it, because apparently modern feminism logic goes “we hate men because they’re hurtful and evil. so we want to be the same.”)

I was talking about the trans situation in bathrooms and prisons.

I’m saying that if you’re a dad and you let your daughter go in a bathroom with a biological man, you are letting your daughter get exposed to potential rape, and you’re not really in a different situation. It’s not as directly effed up, but it’s not as different as one might assume. I wouldn’t let a daughter of mine anywhere where there is a chance of her getting raped, even if it were an 0.1% chance.

It most definitely is because there’s too much hate in the world on all sides of the spectrum. Hate is an easy manipulator.

If not, why are people saying “it’s time to end the American experiment” and saying stupid things like “as long as the country is around we’ll be racist because it was founded on racism” [1) that’s not even true and 2) even if it were, people can change.]

But living through it is still much different than reading about it. People only record the most significant things in life. If you wrote an auto-biography, you wouldn’t have every detail of your life, would you? Experience is much different than simply reading about things. I’m not saying reading is completely ineffective, we have many people who are doomed to repeat historic mistakes because people either twist history or simply skip stuff they don’t like, and they’re at a loss for it. I’m just saying it’s not the same, and we shouldn’t act like we know so much just because we’re in a time where we have research available. Heck, we’re at a point of arguing whether Cleopatra was black or not (although Egyptologists and people who specialize in finding things specifically about her say she was not black, but since when has Hollywood been accurate about race).

That’s good, because we may not have it forever.

If a God existed, could He possibly not know everything about His own creation?

You missed the point here. I was saying that parents don’t let their children have whatever they want in life because children don’t know anything, and that’s how a God would be with us. I wasn’t arguing whether God exists here.

That’s an American thing specifically. Leave the country and you’ll find a lot of Christians have no ability in law and have to hide sometimes. Ik of stuff i won’t say online bc it would endanger people I either know or know of. And for all these left wingers defending Islam, it is not kind to progressive identities. Saudi Arabia will kill your behind for being gay (and Christian too btw). Even in “Christian-run” America, it’s not that harsh. Also I wouldn’t argue many of the laws passed are specifically because of the Bible, no matter what the media says about it. Idc if God exists or not, child murder is extremely effed up. Biological men competing with biological women is not fair, and is an easy out if you can’t beat men. You can become an icon for inclusivity and dominate sports at the same time; so many people will look up to you, even though you aren’t that great at your profession. Whether the Bible says something about this or not, it’s messed up (it doesn’t btw). The only thing that wouldn’t “harm others” per se, is gay s*x. But then again, not many people are trying to ban that.

"No. And I didn't say it was righteous. I actually said later in the paragraph that I wouldn't consider that family as righteous people anyway. And just bc God said they were doesn't make them perfect."

If god calls someone righteous are they righteous?

"I don't think it was better tbh. I would've let those ppl get killed if they insisted of trying to rape male angels bc that already is extremely revolting"

I should point out that this is clearly a made up story for a number of reasons, one of which is that it's laughably unrealistic that you could have an entire city where every single man in the city is a violent gay rapist. When has that ever happened in recorded human history?

"want them punished forever. I personally think they deserved that. But then again, so do I"

I don't know you as a person, but I doubt that you've done anything so bad that you should be punished forever. One of the worst things about Christianity is that it convinces people that they deserve to be burned alive forever for not being perfect.

"Show me the verse where God says he's right for it"

The fact that God never said he was wrong is good enough evidence that God was okay with what he did

"Genesis is a history book, not a condemnation book"

It's not even a history book

"Lot's daughters raped him"

They thought they were the last humans alive. Doesn't the Bible allow for incest if there are only a few people alive? That's what Adam and Eve would have had to do with their offspring for a while. I've even heard people like Ken Ham say that incest was okay for a while because there were no other people on the Earth so relatives had to have sex with each other.

"If you made a TV show about Genesis the way it is, it would be rated NC-17"

I agree, that's why the Bible should be banned, if we're going to ban obscene books.

"It's in the Bible because it's historical, not because it should be followed"

It's not historical. A lot of stuff in the Bible, especially the early books, is mythology, not actual history.

"More moral than God, or more moral than the messed up people who follow Him?"

I'm more moral than God. His rules are barbaric and immoral, and no civilized society today would follow them. If you had a choice, where would you rather live, the United States of America today, or ancient Israel?

-🤓

Fax bro PREACH

Not necessarily, but as a gay person, your joke is funny, it's not offensive, it's just humour.

Fr

Dafuq you on

i definitely have to agree

Any LGBTQ idiot who thinks they can come at my boy here has me to face

ok and?

1st the internet is a dark place with dark humor deal with it. 2nd they are putting horrible ideas into kids heads. Boys are boys, girls are girls, only boys and girls can date

Because that's just a rule of the universe, gay penguins are totally not a thing and gay individuals of other species totally don't exist and we are also totally not the only species to be homophobic

Ye. God created a man and a woman. Not a man and a man nor a woman and a woman but a man and a woman

God also said not to hate people but here you are

Bro I ain't hating on you

You're not hating on me, you're hating on gay people

I'm hating on them because they go against what the bible says

The bible also says not to hate people

it also says men sleeping with men is wrong

So you must hate people who promote freedom of religion too

Depends on what religion. Atheism is technically a religion same goes for evolution

Neither one of those is a religion

You say you hate on people if they go against what the Bible says. The Bible goes against freedom of religion so if anybody supports freedom of religion, you must hate them.

Look up the definition of religion then look up is atheism and evolution a religion? Then come back

I hate them because books from 2000 years ago go against them

Bruh that's what I said

You realize why that's a stupid claim, right?

Even if the Bible is true, he never says to hate on them for existing, or to disown them. It just says "Gay sex bad"

Bro you just caught yourself there.

How?

You don't have to hate them, you can just warn them that they're going against God and it won't work out well for them
That way you're not going against God by being hateful and also not going against God by cowering to the bullies of the world at the same time

yea

"Look up the definition of religion then look up is atheism and evolution a religion? Then come back"

I already know the definitions of those three words. Why do you think atheism and evolution are religions?

-🤓

Although a judicially generated legal definition of atheism may not be easily forthcoming, the Seventh Circuit — like other courts — has at least proffered a definition of religion that includes atheism

-🤓

That doesn't mean atheism is actually a religion, it's just a court lumping atheism in with religions for legal purposes. The actual dictionary definition of atheism doesn't make it a religion. Same with evolution.

-🤓

"only boys and girls can date"

Boys can date girls, boys can date boys, and girls can date girls

Bro is a third grader

It's not like you just CHOOSE to be gay.

you do choose

like that's literally a choice you make after having a taste of its bliss

Okay sorry I didn't respond I had you blocked

Uhh, NO. Being gay is NOT a choice. You can't just go "I have decided to like dick instead of pussy" It comes naturally.

nuh uh

yeah huh

that's why it's nsfw, because it's offensive. And also the community sometimes gets really pushy with their actions

How tf is this offensive? You cleary have no idea what offensive means. Even gay people laugh at this.

uuuuuuh i can explain

Lmaooo

you sir have lost my respect for that second-to-last one there

listen, theres also attack helicopter

Too late

whar

Probably not for any good reason

I hate them too, i took 3 different surveys on homophobia

Why do u say that?

Because you guys seem to just hate them for funsies

they do

no it's because society got f**ked in the head so hard in 2018 the brain damage was so severe that the side affects included mental illness

Woah woah what happened?

2018 was the year of the transition. The transition from 2017, the last good year of our lives, into 2019, the first year of Hell.

Fr
The trans community is extremely bothersome. The ppl in it are being duped, but the ppl running it are absolute devils. They push it as a choice when several ppl are getting forced to transgender as a young kid (i even know of a few cases where someone grew up thinking they were the other gender from what they were born as and found our as a older teenager). I also know of many cases where parents are clearly forcing their kids to be trans just to look good on social media.
Plus it damages bodies so badly, and several people I've seen have felt lied to bc the media and these "scientists" won't tell you about the side effects, only that you're getting "gender-affirming" care and its your best option. They try to get you to make decisions on whether or not you want to irreversibly mutilate yourself as a fricking kid and instead of telling you side effects like a responsible doctor would, they emphasize the feelings part. Why? It makes them money. If you're trans, you are a slave to paying pharmaceutical bills for the rest of your life just like an addict pays for drugs until he breaks his addiction.

And this isn't meant to hate on people in the trans community. I feel sorry for them that they live in a society that lies to them and pushes every reasonable voice away from them, labeling them as bigots and transphobes, so they only hear one side of the story and make life-altering decisions based solely on feelings because older people are encouraging it.
Anyone encouraging you to make decisions based on what you feel like doing probably doesn't have your well being in mind. Just saying.

wow that is a lot of misinformation! I've said it many times and I'll say it more, someone regretting transition is very rare (4% at the very most)
And I feel bad for anyone being forced to transition but with the way you worded it, it does sound like you're exaggerating it, you may not be exaggerating but it really sounds like you are.
"Anyone encouraging you to make decisions based on what you feel like doing probably doesn't have your well being in mind." This specific quote is so out of touch with all research on trans people it's funny. the fact that transitioning benefits mental health is proven again and again yet you fools still believe it's bad, it is not, do some damn research for once.

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

where have you gotten this information from? bc i’m talking about people who experienced it, and statistics is a weak proof because it’s easily manipulated, especially when money is involved, and pharmacies make lots of money purely bc of the trans community’s existence.

I wasn’t intending to, but it’s a lot more common than you might think. A couple years ago, I might have thought someone was overexaggerating if they brought it up in a conversation about frequent situations because I’d only seen it happen once, but by now I’ve seen it happen so many times I’ve lost count at this point.

If that’s the case, why do many in the trans community feel like their identity as is is not good enough? I don’t mean to seem mean, but there’s usually a reason people want to change their gender (i.e., their environment hates their gender [I’ve seen many examples of boys wanting to become girls because their family or circle of friends just seemed to favor girls for no specific reason and they thought becoming girls would make them more loved, or worthy of love]). This culture despises men atm, and young men growing up have to feel that, and wonder if they’d be worth more to everyone around them if they weren’t a man. And I can completely understand that. Not many people who want to change their gender start out at a mentally healthy place. Changing your gender only denies pain. Also, once you enter the community, they block out all the noise that makes you unconfident in your choice so you’re completely reassured at all times. Whereas, when you haven’t transitioned, you’re still in the place of not being valued, and nobody’s protecting you from that. One thing the LGBTQ community has right is that they’re extremely communal and protective of one another. Of course it would seem like mental health goes up when people transition. When running a statistic, you have to consider all the variables before you jump to a conclusion.

Okay I very clearly linked a source there and that source very clearly links 51 other sources. also everything isn't a conspiracy, the fact that you can't comprehend people being happy really says something about how your life's going. (:
as for the other comment yes, I am factoring in how detransitioners feel about, most detransitioners don't actually regret transitioning, most detransitions happen because they were nb or so they could transition later when they were in a safer space.
and most of the health effects are minor and the cancer one is just a myth.
and no, I'm not factoring in old people because generally, detranstioners are not reliable in telling what being trans is like, because they ain't trans, and as for old people who were actually trans, good for them.

have you read that source? did you cite it? that’s long af
didn’t say everything was. however this is a very selfishly-run monetary system.
I am not a happy person, but that’s irrelevant. I’ve always been surrounded by people who are much happier than me, so I don’t doubt happiness is possible. It’s just that a good life is not something I was blessed with.

what detransitioners? are they people you actually know of or an article speaking generalizations? I don’t trust those anymore because many people who know their way around the trans community have said those are absolute BS.

wdym- they literally were trans once upon a time. that’s like saying a former nazi can’t explain what it’s like being a nazi because they’re not one anymore.

Also, how much do the statistics factor in:
1) how older people feel about transitioning (ik that this is not going to be documented fairly though, because countless people who have regretted it have said it’s completely taboo to even talk about it, and the internet will label them transphobes and censor them as much as possible)
2) how detransitioners feel about it (if you’re going to have a statistic you need to include all facts, even if they seem to support the other side, otherwise you’ll convince no one from the other side) [ofc there’s money on the line so why would they do that]
3) the actual health of trans people (they’re at increased risk of many health problems, taking hormones can cause serious problems, they’re at an increased risk of getting cancer at a young age, heart disease, obesity, etc) This is the only thing of the three that even gets addressed publicly.

Research is so shallow these days, and many people jump to conclusions based on pretty much nothing, or appealing to people’s emotions.

"Unlike us, who are still weird, but a majority"

Says the guy who isn't even using the right they're

Who even are you?

Because I've never heard a single reason for hating gay people which makes any sense

There weird

that's a you problem

Hm?

that's your little opinion, that you don't need to share

Well i just did
And you can’t do shit