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We pay farmers to not grow crops.  Pay gunmakers to not sell these weapons. | THREE MORE KILLED IN NRA'S WAR ON KIDS! HUNDREDS HAVE DIED AND MANY MORE WERE WOUNDED IN THIS CULTURE WAR AIMED AT INCREASING THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ASSAULT WEAPON MAKERS. IT IS TIME FOR A PERMANENT BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES. | image tagged in children playing | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Most gun owners are good and law-abiding citizens. They own weapons for a variety of reasons and never end up on the wrong side of the law. I am not anti-gun, just anti-assault weapon. Unfortunately, it seems to be the weapon of choice for "bad guys."
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Define an assault rifle.
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An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. For the purposes of the ban fully-automatic and semi-automatic rifles would qualify.
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So you chose the Wikipedia definition.
A more accepted authority in language is Encyclopedia Britannica, defines assault rifle as "assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire." Those are already illegal for private citizenship ownership.
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Was it an assault rifle used yesterday?
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The NRA was the first national organization to allow membership to all people regardless of race. They used to be known primarily for their gun safety programs for school aged children. Now they are known for opposing Assault Rifle bans, after school shootings. The first Assault Weapon I saw was an M-16, when I was in the Army. I was issued an M-14, because the M-16s (assault rifles) were restricted for use in Viet Nam and for training for those on their way to Viet Nam. It was illegal for private citizens to own them at that time.
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Total and absolute lie, Larry.
The AR15 was available to the public since the beginning. Even full auto M16 was and is available to the public, just as long as one passed Federal checks and paid the $200 tax.
I can buy a full auto firearm at any time. I can pass their checks and I can pay their tax. The problem is the availability and the price. One can only own a full auto firearm that was manufactured before 1986. They are very expensive.Even the very worst full auto firearms sell in the 5 figures. An M16 sells for at least $20k or more depending on manufacturering date and condition. An MP5, $35k.
Larry, you are a liar.
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The US Army M-16 was an Automatic Weapon in 1968. In 1968 the general public was not able to buy such weapons. At that time they were considered to be like "Tommy-guns," and Machine Guns. In 1986 the law that allows their sale, if manufactured prior to 1986 went into effect. I don't keep track of such things, but I am sure that some court ruling made buying automatic weapons legal happened before this law passed. I never mentioned the AR-15, which I understand to be a non-automatic version of the M-16. So, how can I be a liar about something I didn't say anything about?
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Yes the general public were and are still able to purchase those weapons, provided they passed the rigorous BGC and paid the tax, Larry.

You lied about the M16, Larry. That is what you lied about. I mentioned the AR only as an aside. It was marketed to the public in the early 1960’s.

The M16 has always been a full auto, or “selective fire”, if you prefer…even before 1968.
I do keep track of those things. It’s part of my job description, Larry.
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According to what I have read, Colt developed and manufactured the AR-15 in the late 1950s. The version of the weapon adopted by the Armed Forces for use in 1962, was designated by DoD as the M-16. My reference to 1968 was my first encounter with an assault weapon. I was told by my training officer that only certain people and not the general public at-large could legally own M-16s and similar weapons. Not everyone could pass the BGC necessary. I never questioned his insights. Nor do I now.

It is the current culture of "assault weapons," marketed like the Mustang, that I think has caused this problem. Any gun can be a deadly weapon and deserves to be handled with care that respects that potential. Assault rifles are designed to kill human beings. A casual approach to wide ownership of such weapons most probably has led to their misuse as civilian killing weapons. A broad variety of other weapons would, and should, be available to gun enthusiasts after an assault rifle ban.
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The AR is not an assault rifle.
Hmmm… I’ve owned one for 30 years and have never assaulted anyone with. Neither have the millions and millions of other law abiding owners of the AR. I, and many others refer to it as a Defense Rifle. That is what we own them for.
They are also excellent in the control of evasive pests, such as feral hogs. You will never legally stop the sale and ownership of the AR or it’s variants.
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Ban gun free zones. Trans shooter chose school over mall because mall had better security. Mass shootings end when good guy shows up. Proven fact.
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But usually the good guy never shows up until it's too late.
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That is the problem with gun free zones.
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If these guys killed, they should be locked up or life. I am an "equal opportunity," social critic. If you are found guilty by a jury of American Citizens, or in a Trial by a Judge, or plead guilty, you should "do the time," regardless of Race, Religion, Nationality, Gender of Birth, Gender Preference or other demographic distinction.
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What does that mean?
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equestrian seems to be singling out blacks
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Yeah, I wanted to see if he'd come out and say it and explain why.
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How about a ban on f**king with children’s heads and their sexuality?
This just proves that it isn’t the means that brought about this tragedy, it was the individual.
It and certainly wasn’t the NRA, who I am not a financial supporter of( they squandered the money I used to send) nor a member of any more.
And it certainly wasn’t “right wing extremists”
And it certainly wasn’t “White supremacy activists “
And it certainly wasn’t “mega MAGA”
And it sure as hell wasn’t the “NRA’s war on kids”
That only exists in your insane fantasies and propaganda.
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What? No "Thoughts and Prayers?"
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I don’t virtue-signal, Larry. I leave that you propagandists.
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"How about a ban on f**king with children’s heads and their sexuality?"

Is anyone doing that?

"And it certainly wasn’t “right wing extremists”
And it certainly wasn’t “White supremacy activists “
And it certainly wasn’t “mega MAGA”
And it sure as hell wasn’t the “NRA’s war on kids” "

For once

"That only exists in your insane fantasies and propaganda."

Sure, as long as you ignore all the violence carried out by right wing extremists and white supremacists
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"For once"

Is all this known yet?
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“Is anyone doing that?”
Yes

“For once”
No, silly… and you know lefty loonies have pick d up guns and murdered innocents before.
And the NRA has only one “war” and that is stopping people like you from repealing the 2nd Amendment.

“Sure, as long as you ignore all the violence carried out by right wing extremists and white supremacists”

No one is ignoring anything. I bet that there are more left wing extremists and Black supremacists in this country and in Congress than there are of white supremacists and right wing extremists.
In fact, I know there are.
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No, you DON'T know there are because that's not true.
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Larry can't produce proof of ONE NRA member EVER INVOLVED in a MASS SHOOTING INCIDENT...
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You'd never admit it anyway, so what's your point?
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