Gun Control

1,213 views • 56 upvotes • Made by KittyVaughn 2 years ago in politics
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lokiare
7 ups, 2y, 2 replies
The real issue is you can't know who is going to go insane and do something stupid. The answer is promoting good mental health. They won't do that though.
Juramentado
2 ups, 2y
Which brings you to back to violent media (music/games/movies), more tolerance of relativism, more substance abuse, etc doesn't it? YourMotherandYourDad points out that some things increase likelihood of certain outcomes. No Im not blaming video games, but to your point what is good mental health and how do you promote it? What has changed since the time when this wasn't a worry?
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BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Funguy.
3 ups, 2y
The left doesn't do a great job either. You can pull from extremes but it ain't gonna prove your case.
Les_white
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Abby_Normal
3 ups, 2y
soopadoopakoopatroopa
6 ups, 2y, 1 reply
heavy metal...rap music..video games...guns

the scapegoating never really ends

It picks something thats just close enough that the criminals interact with but just far enough that we don't have to be introspective as to their responsibility for their actions.
KittyVaughn
7 ups, 2y, 1 reply
It's n.e.v.e.r the person pulling the trigger's faults. No one admits their blame anymore. It's not MY fault... it's society, my parents, the education system... never their faults!
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BedfordGuy
2 ups, 2y, 3 replies
merryprankster
7 ups, 2y, 3 replies
Have you been to the West Bank?
AmericanViking
5 ups, 2y
The overwhelming majority of mass shooters are unhinged lefties... and never an NRA member...
Modda
1 up, 2y
What about it?
BedfordGuy
3 ups, 2y
I'm talking about America.
[deleted]
4 ups, 2y
Guns are lighter
Funguy.
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
because shooting gets the job done easier. Before guns, arrows and javelins were used. Before that,, rocks and stones were used. Guns didn't invent crime, evil humans did. And there are always evil humans
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
The fact that shooting gets the job done easier is part of the problem.
Funguy.
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
But thats like saying all militaries should discontinue bombs bc it gets the job done easier. If all good countries were to do this, all the evil ones would take over. Same with guns. Ban them, and all the decent people with guns won't be able to defend themselves when criminals use them. And don't believe for a second that any criminal is just gonna fork their gun over to the government just because guns are illegal. Killing is illegal and that doesn't stop them. 

The other problem is that if guns are all in the hands of the government, oppressive governments are easier to run bc the people have little means of self defense. This makes dictatorship easier to achieve. This is why any politician advocating for gun control is very suspicious.
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Nobody was talking about militaries.  The subject is individual mass shooters.  Your conflating the two is an insult to every military veteran.
Funguy.
1 up, 2y
i’m saying that to suggest that when crime happens, guns are the problem, is like to suggest when wars happen, bombs and weapons are the problem, instead of the leaders who instigated the wars. i’m not equating the two at all.
Dr.Strangmeme
4 ups, 2y
But seriously 😊👍
Funguy.
3 ups, 2y
Imagine if God removed rocks...
Toejoe
3 ups, 2y, 2 replies
A single murder can be achieved with bare hands . I don't believe random mass school or mall killings of people could be achieved using a single rock
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Mass murder has been recently committed several times in recent years with vehicles- do you want to ban them, too?
Toejoe
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
I believe you're missing the point of my meme. But ask yourself, what is the choice of weapon being used in American mass murders? We all, unfortunately,  know what the answer is.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
The only answer you know is the one the mass media gives you.
Toejoe
0 ups, 2y
You would need to live under a rock, to not know, the historic weapon of choice, with high body counts attributed to the weapons used, were nearly exclusively done with AR-15 style, semi-auto, long guns with high capacity rounds. Problem is, you know that, like everyone else.
IServeTheGermanEmpire
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
ban guns and people will use something else
Toejoe
0 ups, 2y
Right, its why School shooting, are shootings.
[deleted]
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Yes, that’s true, but sometimes in the US if we let people with mental illnesses and no background checks buy guns then we run a higher risks of gun violence. Also I don’t get why you put a Bible reference in there.
MegadrummerJ
2 ups, 2y, 2 replies
You can't buy a gun from a store or a licensed dealer at a show without a background check. It's been that way for decades.
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
But yet murderers, shooters and other weirdos manage to get them. Are the old ways really that much better? If a child is hurting another child with a rock, and you take the child away from the rock, what if another child comes around and starts doing the same thing? You take the rock away.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
These are called ILLEGAL gun sales. Criminals, by definition do not care about laws.
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y
Yeah, but some people with illnesses that are undiagnosed still buy guns. There is only one good solution
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
There are still loopholes big enough to drive a truck through.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
Name one
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 3 replies
Name ONE way you can go into a gun shop and purchase a firearm without filling out and passing a background check. You can't, because it's impossible.
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
People who haven’t committed crimes and have no mental illnesses can still seem perfectly fine until they shoot someone.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
They can also seem just fine until they run over a crowd with their car- Do you want to take away everyone's vehicles? How about taking away all personal tools because they could be used to make weapons, or even as weapons themselves?
[deleted]
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
That’s because it is too easy to get a gun in America. Yes, there’s always a chance of those things happening but getting guns is so easy that it’s all you hear about because it happens so often
MegadrummerJ
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
It's all you hear about, because that's all the press talks about. The national media  pointedly ignores the thousands of stories of law abiding citizens defending themselves with firearms every year. And frankly, you're more likely to die on the highway in an auto accident than being shot.
[deleted]
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Not if I still go to an American public school
MegadrummerJ
0 ups, 2y
Actually, automobiles are more of a threat to you if you are of school age due to the fact that teenage and young twenty-something drivers are statistically speaking the most careless, dangerous, risk taking drivers on the road. That's why insurance rates are so high for them.
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
It doesn't stop straw purchases.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
That is also called a crime
BedfordGuy
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
And it still happens and people get away with it.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y
So what's your answer, turn the USA into another Socialist centrally controlled country like China where everyone is surveilled, manipulated, and dominated at all times? The first step towards setting up an autocratic government has historically always been disarming the populace.
BedfordGuy
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Have someone purchase it for you.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y
That is a crime: it is called a Straw Purchase. It is already illegal.
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Private purchases.  Gun show loopholes.  Straw purchases.
MegadrummerJ
1 up, 2y
Straw purchases are illegal. Please define this "Gun Show Loophole" I keep hearing about. If you try to purchase a gun from a dealer  at a show, you will have to fill out and pass a background check to make the purchase, PERIOD. The phrase "Gun Show Loophole" is just a term the Liberal Left has used to stir up emotion: it is meaningless.
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