History Lesson

Kennedy was before Democrat politicians just became communists. Even FDR for all his flaws and gullibility to Stalin, was not nearly as Marxist as many politicians today.

this whole comment section broke my brain

You do realize not supporting workers makes him less communist, right? Like... That's kind of their whole thing.

Democrats are losing the blue-collar vote yet they seem to drift further toward socialism. Maybe you can explain that.

I can explain that: They're not moving closer to socialism. Quite the opposite in fact.

Please explain. Post your sources.

You're kidding right? You want me to explain why the guy who shut down one of the largest railroad strikes in recent history for the sake of the economy isn't a socialist? Or how the democratic party continues to put up more of a fight against Bernie Sanders and other more left-leaning people in their own party than they ever do against the Republicans? What do you think Biden is other than a craven capitalist?

Bernie, AOC, Warren, and many more are "Democratic Socialists" whatever that means. Biden and Pelosi say they are not Socialist. There are definitely socialists in the DP. There are none in the GOP.

Well there are out and proud white supremacists in the Republican Party, so what does that say about them?

There are some in the Democratic party too, they're just better liars.

Hence why I said out and proud.

Kennedy defined civil right as moral.and Constitutional. To end segregation in education give federal protection in right to vote. Or what Desantis would call A WOKE MARXISTS AGENDA

Civil Rights was not really Kennedy's priority. It was kind of forced on him. I suggest you watch a few YouTube videos about Kennedy. Your DeSantis comment sounds very partisan.

Perhaps you should read a book about Kennedy. You don’t seem to know very much about him.

It seems you see everything through the lens of the present Left-Right divide. This divide did not exist in 1960. The political landscape was completely different. Society was very different. You should educate yourself about American history or avoid talking about it.

Desantis doesn't use "WOKE" as a partisan agenda?
Certain a corporation such as Disney would disagree Appears Conservatives and small Govt never mattered, when clearly they're expanding Right wing agendas upon everyone else.

I think it is safe to say, both parties sold out the American people to the highest bidder.

this is true, many politicians are too selfish to do what helps the people.
Also it’s a lot more complicated than that too. There are powerful people that buy out the government (both parties are involved in this), and if either party pulls out, the powerful people will withdraw their support and the party would get dominated in the elections. So neither Democrats and Republicans have much interest in stopping, even though what they’re doing inconveniences the people.

How would you be interested in learning that education was becoming more equalized between races in the 30s and 40s, long before Civil Rights was a thing? All Civil Rights did was encourage women to "marry" the government, creating an explosion of fatherlessness in the black community. It didn't help blacks, it made everything worse.

Jim Crow, separate but equal laws, whites only, and sundown laws ruled this land until Federal Government FORCED change in '50's&'60's
Why do you think Conservatives are so hell bent on book bans and burnings? It erases history and allows Conservatives to rewrite it

that’s what the left would like you to believe, and while there were many racists in power at the time, the notion that blacks had no opportunity before the 50s and 60s is utter BS.
Conservatives don’t like this CRT nonsense being taught in schools because it’s utter BS and is a revised version of history. School teachers are the ones rewriting history. Their take on history is so simple and is not even possibly true. You know how there are many different opinions in our world today? The smae thing was true then - but without SM and the news media to help unify everyone’s opinions. To act like you know the state of everyone in power at the time is absolutely asinine, ignorant, and extremely arrogant. Not even all white people in the 1860s were racist. You know the difference between conservatives and democrats? Conservatives are more likely to gain their opinions from reading the works of the people in the time they’re trying to talk about, whereas Democrats are never going to do that because they’ve preconceived that all the people back then were evil and thus all they say is discredited. Some people WERE evil back then, but not everyone. Reading history from the perspective of one time gives you a one-sided spin on it. And ofc the people wanting you to fall for this BS are gonna accuse anyone calling them out for it of the same BS.

I thought kennedy was a liberal feel good guy....but now the extreme right wants to rewrite that history too....

Democrats really weren't "Liberal" in the same way, you would define it now. Democrats were pro-union and pro-labor. They were supported by blue-collar workers and farmers. Republicans really weren't "Conservative," They supported business, but in some ways, Republicans were more liberal than Democrats. Republicans were more likely to support Civil Rights. I think some on both the Left and the Right want to rewrite history.

The difference used to be "do we need more government?" Dems yes..Rs no.....ah the good ole days.....now we have Rs making bigger government in order to fight the woke!!!

Both Parties like to spend money, want control, and care nothing about the average citizen. They are really the same party controlled by the same people. Only their rhetoric is different.

Nope. Republicans were three things from their inception (and even before):

1️⃣ Abolitionists
2️⃣ Pro (big)business
3️⃣ Pro big centralized gov't

Heck, their first president was the first to call the federation known as the USA a nation. And Lincoln did his best to make it that as opposed to a union of nations that it was.

America is two continents and islands occupying a hemisphere, it is not a country. The redefining of the USA and ballooning of the Federal Gov't plus the slide into corporatocracy has much to do with Lincoln and the GOP. Not that we wouldn't have gone in that directon without them over time, but it is what the party was formed around from the get-go, and they hastened that direction. Openly.

No. Republicans were NOT more likely to support Civil Rights. Quite the opposite.

You can't rewrite the numbers.

Civil Rights Act of 1964

Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act with a higher percentage.
Democrats had a super majority at the time.

Votes by party
The original House version:[1]

Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[35]

Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:[2]

Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[3]

Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#:~:text=Although%20majorities%20in%20both%20parties,can't%20legislate%20morality.%22

Read what I put again. It is the truth.

Southern Democrats House: 9%
Southern Republicans ZERO

Northern Democrats House 95%
Northern Republicans 85%

Southern Democrats Senate 5%
Southern Republicans ZERO

Northern Democrats Senate 98%
Northern Republicans 84%

EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA, the scoreboard clearly showed Democrats did a better job on this.

Only when you strip away and ignore the north/south divide WHICH WAS THE CENTRAL PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE BY THE WAY do the numbers fudge in your favour.

But we DON'T ignore the numbers. The numbers are there. Black people have known since the 1920's that Republicans are just not on their side anymore.

You break it down regionally. I have it overall. Just playing with the numbers. Really doesn't matter anyway. What has this got to do with the OP?

BECAUSE IT WAS A REGIONAL ISSUE

Focus! What was the OP? Either comment on the OP or shut up! No strawman! No redirect! The OP!

It's your pivot. Own it.

Focus on the OP. I was comparing Democrats then and now. Democrats today don't support workers, but they do support socialism, the opposite of old-school Democrats. Is that helpful? Your side hustle really isn't important. It's just a strawman argument. If I said you were right it, still would not make any difference.

Emphasis on "feel good"
Guy faked nice with so many people and made broken promises to so many groups that the line of possible assassins stretches down the block. Over in the next county.
Sheesh, it took LBJ to keep most of JFK's pledges because JFK was too busy redecorating the Lincoln Room with his chromosomal discharge to do it when he was suppose to.

Two things pumping air in the myth:

1. Women thought he was hawt. Groupie following just like they later had for Clinton.
woopdee dee

2. He got himself shot. If it wasn't for that instant elevation to sainthood status, he'd be just another in a line of self adulating cheek kissers who didn't do nothing but get themselves elected. He would have been remembered as the crud between Ike and Nixon. That is all.

"Well, see, BACK THEN we were exaggerating and being hyperbolic. But, see, NOW we're serious - this time, the liberal president IS a communist who hates the working class."

And by the way, can we just take a moment to appreciate the irony here? allies with socialists, sells out the working class? Like, these guys have NO idea what these words even mean, do they?

Bless your heart.