just want to make sure I understand rather than assume

Trump says 'grab em by the pu$$y' once and liberals talk about it daily for 5 years
Biden literally does it...to a child...his own daughter...in the shower with her... and he gets a standing ovation

Maybe the real issue is that Trump was talking about women above the age of 18....

Maybe.

I can’t speak for the libs but I can speak as someone who voted for Biden, and may well again if my only realistic choice is between Biden and Trump, I believe my answer may be insightful to you if it increases the likelihood of the American people given a better choice in 2024 over the rather dismal option of Biden or Trump, again.

Voting for a candidate alone does not constitute a support for that candidate. I do not donate to Biden, I do not wear or decorate my property with his merchandise, and I’m extremely fond of ridiculing him and criticizing him when there is actual merit.

I was not overly fond of Trump before elected, nor Hillary. And I believed whomever won would demonstrate too much of an authoritarian liberal tone, but conceded that both could be considered moderately conservative. I had hoped that Trump’s incendiary tone would mellow over time once he stopped campaigning. Unfortunately, Trump enjoyed campaigning more than actually doing the job.

And while one can argue that some of his policies have been beneficial, the extent of his credit was largely exaggerated as Biden too holds a strong economy and record lows for unemployment despite the record high inflation. I am skeptical that inflation can be combatted through any policy by either Trump or Biden, so the point of it is moot. What it comes down to are their policies for taxes and I’m rather tired of the modern Republican tax policies always giving way to the need of high cost of stimulus checks and loans to to failing leading corporations. Those same policies that resulted in the 2008 crash have not abated. And Trump rolled back protections during his term and I was sure, in Trump’s second term, that we’d see that happen once again. I was shocked we did not under Obama.

This was the tipping point of my observation when choosing both Hillary and later Biden under Trump . If Republicans could keep the protections that would prevent another 2008 economic recession and adopt a similar but not exact economic tax plan, I would be willing to slide my vote over back to the Republican candidate. Even Trump.

The thing is, Republicans can’t balance the budget anymore than Democrats can but Democrat policies don’t slide us into an economic recession. And while I admit that Trump is not explicitly responsible for the current inflation and recession, nor Biden, I do believe the global economic disaster caused by COVID hastened what would’ve eventually happened.

So, while I do not vote nor support Trump, that doesn’t mean I support Biden.

And this mindset that Biden supporters are as adamant as Trump Supporters is ultimately self-defeating. The acknowledgement and accurate perception that Biden has so few proud supporters, less than Trump, is true.

This does not mean Biden must have cheated because he commands so few fanatics as Trump does. That is a projectionist fallacy and flawed because it seriously underestimated Trump general unpopularity.

While I will admit most of Trump’s criticisms are exaggerated and were easily politically exploited by his opponents as well as his general incompetence, one must also consider Biden’s own allegations and incompetence to also be exaggerations.

I wouldn’t vote for Trump based just on his character any more than I would vote for Biden for his. Nor does either of their devotion to partisan politics explicitly gain or lose my vote. It is their policies I regard with great intensity and the results.

I would not say Biden’s policies and results are perfect, they are marginally better than Trump who plays by the same Republican rulebook that lead to not just the 2008 recession and arguably the one in the 1990s. While I admit, again, the Covid recession was not on Republicans, I believed it would not have hit as hard had Trump not scaled back the protections put in place to prevent one.

With that, I cannot support Trump, hesitant to vote for a Republican, but not entirely sure I want another four years of Biden either. Another Republican candidate may change my mind but I will have to know the full extent of the impact of Biden’s policies and what his opponent proposed for an alternative.

Lowering taxes for anyone is not a realistic incentive to me. Even if I would rather there be a free economy, it is not a realistic solution to our increasing budget and debt. Not at this time. Anymore so that Brexit was a realistic solution to the United Kingdom. Much like socialism sounds great on paper, to some, we must avoid any utopian ideals of any kind in order to avoid the serious pitfalls of recession. Small changes are always better than big ones, etc etc.

If one must vote exclusively based on their character, I would choose neither and would consider anyone who votes toward either with only this consideration acceptable but seriously lacking in the understanding of our political choices and the realistic ramifications therein.

Wasn't even true to begin with. But you guys are quite gullible.