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Because the atheists mao and stalin were great fans of women and homosexuals...

Two atheists compared to thousands of Christians. Good job 😂

millions*

Wait, did I say "millions"? History might up that to "billions"

I was being charitable :)

I understand.

Oh snap! I just realized who I was replying to! Guess I'm getting banned.

Have you been banned before?

Riiiioght. Cool story bro

That was a question, not a statement

Not sure what your point is. Stalin was one guy. Christians have a bloody history going back hundreds and hundreds of years, killing and slaughtering anyone who got in their way

Okay. Cool story bro

You've never studied history?

In three centuries, the British Empire killed. A lot.
They are only 2nd only to kills by Christian Europe.

Yeah those guys sucked but they aren’t representative of all atheists.

You've said some pretty delusional things here on imgflip, Prager, but this has to also go in the sad category.

Blind hatred, based on lies, is no way to go through life.

Kinda sounds like another user in the Politicstoo stream. Not naming names, but I see similarities between PragerUwU and that person. You can try guessing who it is but I doubt they’re the same person I’m thinking of, though. 🤔

Many people in both groups do

Example of a Christian stoning a gay person. Please provide evidence

Killing, not necessarily stoning

Fine… evidence of a Christian *killing a gay person…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States

Not all of these crimes were motivated by Christianity, but some were.

Then there's the recent bill that was proposed in Uganda, a Christian country, that would make same sex activity punishable by death

And then there are numerous examples throughout history of Christians executing gay or suspected gay people, because the Bible says to

I searched for the word 'Christian' on that page and I found only 2 results, only one of which showed that someone claimed he did it on behalf of his belief. Ironically enough, his last name was Gay. If anything this wiki page disproves your argument.

The *proposed Ugandan law is more likely culturally based than religiously.

And as for the Bible thing, I've looked many places and could only find one passage in the bible that strictly calls for death: Leviticus 20:13
It is true that a lot of the bible expresses distaste for homosexuality, but I have yet to see actual, documented proof that there have been "numerous examples" of Christians killing gay people because of the bible.

Feel free to keep trying tho.

"If anything this wiki page disproves your argument"

How so?

"The *proposed Ugandan law is more likely culturally based than religiously"

Their culture is Christian. And a number of American pastors traveled to Uganda to support the bill

"And as for the Bible thing, I've looked many places and could only find one passage in the bible that strictly calls for death: Leviticus 20:13"

And that's one too many

"It is true that a lot of the bible expresses distaste for homosexuality, but I have yet to see actual, documented proof that there have been "numerous examples" of Christians killing gay people because of the Bible"

Read up on how suspected gay people were treated during the Middle Ages

I will also add that there are quite a few Christians in the United States today who definitely would kill gay people if it were legal. Their holy book commands them to, and many of them would absolutely follow that command were it not for laws preventing them from doing so. It's the worst type of cult behavior and indoctrination.

In my other response I explained that I only found a single passage calling for death, and this is in reaction to 'homosexual acts,' not just killing men because they might like other men. And I highly doubt that there are "quite a few Christians" that would kill people because it was in the bible. Again, I would like to ask for proof for that claim.

I listen to conservative Christian radio on a daily basis. The kind of hatred and rhetoric I hear directed against gay people makes it clear that there are a number of conservative Christians who would be perfectly fine with killing gay people or having the government kill them. And I know for a fact that some conservative Christians have openly supported the government killing gay people. You can find articles about it online

If I can find articles about it online, so can you. Give me a link.

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-gay-people-solution-killings-bible-1714037?amp=1

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/pastors-praise-anti-gay-massacre-in-orlando-prompting-outrage.html

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/297714-mike-hill-slammed-for-put-gays-to-death-chuckle/

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/22283/ex-gop-gov-candidate-calls-for-firing-squad-for-trans-rights-supporters-political-foes/

https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/DA-looking-into-East-Tennessee-pastors-sermon--511197261.html

One is already doing it, the other is slowly eroding away our democracy so they can do it without impunity.

One thing that the Roman New Testament and Old Testament are in agreement on is that women and children are the property of men. Is this truly the first time you've heard this?

I think they are referring to how more extreme Islamists and Christians treat Gay people and Women, not the religion or all members as a whole as there have been both Christian and Muslim pro-LGBT groups.

Really? I'm a Christian and I don't treat gay or anyone else bad. For as bad as the worst Christian has been with gays and women he/she is still billions of miles away from how bad Muslims treat women and gays.

Christians and Jews do not force women to cover themselves from head to toe. We don't treat women worse than dogs. We don't blame the woman if a man rapes her. We don't have sex with non-believers as a means of conversion.

Christians and Jews don't throw gays off the tops of buildings to their death just because they are gay. We don't put them in cages and lower the cage in water to drown them. We don't stone them.

I really have no idea why the left (other than they have been conditioned by Marxists to hate all religions) has decided that Muslims and Christians are identical. That is utter crap.

Matthew 22: 36-40 (KJV)
"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

Do you see anywhere in those verses where Jesus put an asterisk with a footnote saying that these are the exceptions to those commandments? We are all God's children. We are all spiritual brothers and sisters. God is the literal Father of our spirits and it is our spirits that gives the body life. Without it the body is a corpse. This is why God commands us to love him and our brothers and sisters. We are one huge massive family. That statement alone is, to use leftist speech, the most "inclusive" statement ever written.

Those two commandments supersede the Law of Moses and anything a prophet in the Old Testament has ever said. So while all of the anti-Christian bigots are running around pointing out one passage from the Bible after another to "show" us Christians just how evil and bad we are, they missed the most important passages in the Bible. I'm not saying that we should ignore all of the other commandments and moral lessons in the Bible. I am just saying that these 2 are the most important.

When the atheists go to their websites that have all of the cherry picked verses from the Bible all neatly laid out for them (so that they never need to actually bother with buying a Bible and reading it for themselves), they lose a whole lot of context and insight.

Dude, chill down! I do acknowledge that Muslims do generally have certain beliefs that don't line up with those of the rest of the world. It's worth noting that the number of pro-gay Muslims are much, much lower than that of pro-gay Christians and Jews. I was just displaying what I thought Prager's original intent was.

I'm always chill. :)

You have to understand that there are a whole lot of anti-Christian bigots here on ImgFlip and just out in the public. I have run into so many of them who start bombarding me with how bad the Christians are are in every aspect. Then the next thing they do is bring up the Inquisition. Then they start pointing out passages from the Bible. It happens all of the time. I just made the assumption that you were going to just be another one of those mind numbed drones repeating the same boring stuff all of the time.

Understandable although I personally haven’t personally encounter any anti-Christians on here but maybe those posts are often taken down by the management. Regardless, your point makes sense.

You're right. They're not as bad here as other places. However, I blocked a person here on ImgFlip because they would not stop harassing me about my religion.

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and for some reason people tend to be more negative about that church than some others. The Catholics probably get worse treatment than the LDS Church.

However, there was a time in the early to mid 1800's when members of my church were being driven out of one town to another. They were beaten, robbed, raped and/or murdered. The state of Missouri even issued an extermination order against my church. They made it legal to murder a member of my church. We left Missouri and went to Illinois a built our own town but that wasn't enough to stop people from attacking us. Eventually my church said, we're leaving the United States and went to what is now Utah which, at the time, was owned by Mexico. A year later the US annexed that land.

*haven’t encountered

No one was harassing him for being Mormon

If something commanded in the Bible is terrible, that's not the fault of any atheist

And I was talking about EXTREMISTS! Not everyday average Christians like you.

When I think of extremist Christians I think of the snake handlers and people like that. Those people pretty much keep to themselves.

Then there's those Fred Phelps guys. They call themselves Christians but they certainly do not act like Christians.

And I'm not Anti-Christian. I think that most Christians are perfectly normal people but there is a MINORITY of EXTREME Christians that use your texts for it's unintended purposes and it's disgraceful.

"Really? I'm a Christian and I don't treat gay or anyone else bad"

So what?

"For as bad as the worst Christian has been with gays and women he/she is still billions of miles away from how bad Muslims treat women and gays"

False. Christians have attacked and murdered gay people.

"Christians and Jews do not force women to cover themselves from head to toe"

No, they just shame and degrade women who don't

"We don't blame the woman if a man rapes her"

Sometimes you do

"Christians and Jews don't throw gays off the tops of buildings to their death just because they are gay. We don't put them in cages and lower the cage in water to drown them. We don't stone them"

That doesn't mean you don't want to

"I really have no idea why the left (other than they have been conditioned by Marxists to hate all religions) has decided that Muslims and Christians are identical"

It's funny that you think somebody can only hate religion if they've been conditioned to.

"God is the literal Father of our spirits and it is our spirits that gives the body life"

Prove it

"When the atheists go to their websites that have all of the cherry picked verses from the Bible all neatly laid out for them (so that they never need to actually bother with buying a Bible and reading it for themselves), they lose a whole lot of context and insight"

Research has shown that atheists tend to have a higher rate of knowledge of the Bible than Christians do. You seem to think that atheists have never read the Bible. Many people became atheists because they actually did read it and saw that it was full of garbage.

As an Atheist, the bible isn’t all bad. Ideas like being a good person and helping others are valuable lessons.

I didn't say the Bible is all bad. The Bible does have some good ideas in it. But it also has a lot of very bad ideas.

The woman thing, I don't know, the gay thing is Leviticus.

That was then. That was millennias ago. Neither the Jews or Christians practice stoning or any other punishment for homosexuality. Not to mention, when the Law of Moses was written it only applied to the Jews. They weren't stoning gentile homosexuals. The law was written and if you ignored the law then you were punished. If you didn't like the law you moved away. Life back then was far more brutal than even a century ago. And the brutality was not just the Jews, it was everyone, everywhere.

Islam still stones gays. But heres the odd part. If you are a gay man and married to a woman, you can go snd have all the gay sex you want because you have a wife. Muslims only kill gays who aren't married.

Islam is the only religion where so many members are still living in the stone age.

Uh oh. I spoke the truth about Islam again. The ImgFlip police are going to stone me to death.

Don't disagree with anything you said, but it was completely irrelevant. I just answered your question about where it was in the bible.

That's me. "completely irrelevant". :)

I tend to say way too much. My apologizes.

No worries ✌️😁

"That was then. That was millennias ago"

And yet the Bible never changes what is says. That means it's still in effect today.

"Neither the Jews or Christians practice stoning or any other punishment for homosexuality"

Yes they do

"Not to mention, when the Law of Moses was written it only applied to the Jews. They weren't stoning gentile homosexuals"

Then why do Christians today try to use Bible verses to enact laws that affect everybody in the country?

"The law was written and if you ignored the law then you were punished"

Do you think somebody deserves to be put to death for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week?

"Life back then was far more brutal than even a century ago. And the brutality was not just the Jews, it was everyone, everywhere"

That doesn't make it okay

"If you are a gay man and married to a woman, you can go snd have all the gay sex you want because you have a wife. Muslims only kill gays who aren't married"

Chapter and verse?

"Islam is the only religion where so many members are still living in the Stone Age"

And many Christians as well

Says the guy who was hoping it was a white Christian responsible.

When did he say that?

It’s inferred by all leftists and Communists, I mean progressives.

That is some wild projection, mate! Do you even have a source to back this claim up?

Hahaha , it’s a known fact that you guys are crestfallen everytime a mass shooter or mass car killer is a POC. Haven’t heard much about Asian Hate Crimes since it is mostly Blacks assaulting Asians. Too bad destroys the narrative doesn’t it.

Well I haven’t seen your parties trying to prevent these hate crimes.

That’s up to the Leftist DA’s who are soft on crime and promote perpetrator rights over victims.

You still haven't listed a single source yet.

Tawana Bradley, Jussie Smollet, Bubba Wallace all faked race hate crimes. Of course hate crimes happen. Like Blacks attacking Asians. Leftists denouncing White people. All unleashed by leftist propaganda and hate.

Jeez. You’re a lost cause.

Not going to either. It’s common knowledge among non wokesters that you have to manufacture hate crimes Jussie.

You're not making your claims sound legitimate. You need a source if you want to look truthful and honest.

*you neglecting.

Real hate crimes do happen and staged ones are uncommon. Oh and you neglected to share a source is you technically admitting your claims aren't factual. I don't know if they are but please give a source.

You asked I gave you a few of many examples of fake hate crimes. You can look them up all were very well publicized.

I more so meant sources for other things of your argument like your generalizations about Leftists.

To say that Leftists are the reasons why hate crimes are happening is crazy and an extremely black and white view of the world. Also how would denouncing hate crimes cause hate crimes? You make no sense.

Leftists don’t denounce white people. Some do, but not all. Just like how some Rightists are racists while most aren’t.

While Blacks killing Asians is a issue that should be addressed, you are extremely downplaying any instances of White people attacking minorities. When it comes to countering hate crimes, you can’t pick and choose. You should give equal attention to all of them.

Leftists don’t support an anti-white narrative. We are simply trying to stop issues in our society that are unjust towards minorities. Stating that anti-racist action is anti-white makes it sound like racism is a white trait which it isn’t. It’s just makes you sound stupid.

Don’t write off everything we Leftists say as crazy anti-white propaganda. It’s important to listen to what others have to say.

The need to prove the false narrative is what causes fake hate crimes by the left. Always hoping for one to happen so they can say see we told you so. Minnesota car murderer was a hate crime, but leftist media said a car did it. Lol it was a black man who hated whites ramped up by BLM and leftist propaganda.

Promoting skin color bias and generational guilt is racism plain and simple. Equality is not the same as Equity. Equal under the law regardless of skin pigment is the ideal that has been corrupted by the left to excuse murderous criminal behavoir.

Yeah, I give up you’re too far down into your little rabbit hole to realize what’s actually going on. I give up on you.

Maybe conservatives don't like the terrorism that can come with the religion? Not saying all Muslims are terrorists but seriously...
And even Christians aren't that hostile to gays today, I've been shocked by how hostile Muslims have been to the LGBT community before, and yet some of them support it.
And very few conservatives today are saying women are property. And one of my family members who still feels that way about women is actually a Democrat.

This is about as relevant to the original topic as the Galaxy Note 7 is to today.

"Maybe conservatives don't like the terrorism that can come with the religion?"

You're starting to understand people who don't like Christianity. Awesome.

"And even Christians aren't that hostile to gays today"

It depends on how you define hostile. There are Christians in the United States who openly say that gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married to each other or adopt children, and that it should be legal to deny them a job or an apartment because of who they are. If I said that it should be legal to deny a Christian a job because of their religion, would you say that's being hostile?

Christian terrorism was done by kings who lived hundreds of years ago. America was founded by Christians who didn't want any part of that. Whereas it's illegal not to be Muslim to this day in, say, Turkey. And the biggest factor is that there is no place in the Bible that encourages outright terrorism, whereas the Qur'an has a verse about killing people who don't believe. Another factor is that while Christianity spread through people being killed by the sword, Islam was spread by the sword. In other words, the ppl who spread Christianity were the ones who got killed, whereas Islam spread by "Believe or die."

And even that isn't as hostile as what I have heard from some Muslims talking about LGBT. It is strictly forbidden in the Qur'an (though the younger generation doesn't seem to be aware of this).
I wouldn't agree with that though, and no, I would not like if someone was denied a job because of their faith. However, things like that are becoming a reality more and more now, especially in fields of fame like Hollywood, where people like the writers of Friends said that they deliberately don't hire anyone who is conservative, or paramount canceling a TV series for not being woke enough. (Ofc none of that is shocking). But the thing is, if Christians or conservatives mention this, it's usually met with "Shut up, you've had your time in the spotlight, no one cares about your whining" but when this is mentioned by people with progressive identities such as LGBT, Muslim, etc, it's an actual traumatizing event. To which I say frick that, because people shouldn't have to be punished because some their ancestors (maybe not even ancestors, just ppl of like beliefs) lived comfortably. And look at ancient Rome pre-Christianity or ANY Muslim regime. Christians by no means have it easy all the time.

"Christian terrorism was done by kings who lived hundreds of years ago"

And it's done in the modern day as well

"Whereas it's illegal not to be Muslim to this day in, say, Turkey"

That's just flat out not true. It's not illegal in Turkey not to be a Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Turkey

"And the biggest factor is that there is no place in the Bible that encourages outright terrorism"

There are numerous verses in the Bible where God commands his followers to kill people who worship other gods, or practice witchcraft and things like that. That can absolutely fall under the category of terrorism.

"Another factor is that while Christianity spread through people being killed by the sword, Islam was spread by the sword"

Another falsehood. In many countries, Christianity was spread through force and violence. Look what Europeans did in North and South America alone. And medieval Europe as well. I believe it was Charlemagne who made a rule that any Saxon who didn't accept Christian conversion should be put to death.

"Islam spread by "Believe or die." "

And Christianity as well

"no, I would not like if someone was denied a job because of their faith"

Yet many Christians in the US are wanting that for LGBTQ people

"the writers of Friends said that they deliberately don't hire anyone who is conservative"

I haven't heard that. But that's not about religion anyway

"people with progressive identities such as LGBT, Muslim, etc"

Many Muslims don't have progressive ideas at all

"And look at ancient Rome pre-Christianity or ANY Muslim regime. Christians by no means have it easy all the time"

I never said they did. But being persecuted doesn't justify persecuting others.

No, not on a government scale. People get denied entry to places and given a hard time for simply preaching or handing out Bibles in Turkey.

I misnamed the country I was thinking of. I meant Iraq, (though Egypt and Libya are very similar). However, that does not change the fact that in many Buddhist and Muslim countries, say Myanmar or pretty much any of the “stan” clan, Christianity is met with jail time, and sometimes murder.

That was often done to people who did things like sacrifice children to fake gods or just killed children for the sake of it (sound familiar?). God never just told people to wipe out an entire people group for no reason. The Canaanites God told the Israelites to kick out were practicing divination and some people even believe they had children with demons (though that’s a long shot). Plus God punished His own people in the Old Testament, it’s not like it’s a christians rampage on everyone else story. And, like I’ve said before, that was the Old Testament. Jesus never gave any such commands. And to go a bit further, because Christ wasn’t on Earth until the New Testament, you can’t technically call any Old Testament believer a “Christian” specifically. They believed in the same God but they were also given rules through a man God ordained to lead them, whereas Jesus was literally God directly and had higher standards. And if you have ever heard of the Sawi, that is a people group in the last century that would literally eat human beings and babies and were messed up in ways I won’t mention here, but some missionaries came in and were able to turn the entire people group around. They found Bible verses supporting this action, not killing them all for not believing.

I wasn’t referring to what rulers did in mid-Rome. I was talking about how the religion originated. Whatever happened mid-term is another discussion. Charlemagne did force people to be Christian but he also wasn’t an apostle. Plus he was loyal to the Pope and the Catholic Church didn’t take long to deviate from the Bible entirely. That was why the Protestant Reformation happened, and as far as I know no protestants have ever persecuted people by death and torture. The Catholic Church got political and manipulative really quickly to the point where it was a business run on using people’s fear of God (and their scarce knowledge of Him) to get them to do whatever they wanted. And they made up crap about the pope line coming down through Peter because they misinterpreted a verse Jesus said once.
Anyway, so back to the topic, which was how Christianity started. All the apostles were either killed or an attempt was made on their lives. And of course, Jesus died. Peter was crucified upside down, Paul was decapitated, Stephen and others were stoned to death, John was put in boiling oil but survived and they eventually banished him to an island because they couldn’t kill him no matter how hard they tried. Whereas Muhammad was violent and he and his first followers all spread the religion through terror and death threats. So no, Christianity is not the terrorist organization. Some people may have made it that way, but that’s not by any means how it was started or intended.

And I’m not them, so that’s not relevant. LGBT is most definitely wrong but they shouldn’t be denied jobs unless they can’t keep prostitution to themselves (since drag queens love to dress like sleazy prostitutes and seem to think we should all enjoy seeing this on television or in person, otherwise we’re something“phobic”).

conservatism has mostly been based on religious values. The party is only now being joined by anti-religious liberals (or just atheists) because the left has gone so bonkers that liberalism is actually far more conservative than leftist, and many liberals are seeing that. so when someone says “we don’t hire conservatives” 10-20 years ago, they’re hating on religion, specifically Christianity.

I said that was a “progressive identity” because it’s a “minority” the left victimizes. Whether they’re leftist or not wasn’t really the point.

and i never said it did.

also how tf is this post islamophobic

PragerUwU usually comments on a meme with something completely unrelated to the meme. He can't refute the meme so he has to bring up something else, something completely fabricated just to try to piss people off. Ya know... like how he is pissed off that he cannot refute the meme.

That is his modus operandi.

I can see that now