The RADICAL Republicans, no less...

Also that looks like a stock image...

None of what that guy said is false. Lincoln WAS a Republican, and the KKK was founded by Democrats. Hypocrisy on his part doesn't negate historical fact.

Also, there are other reasons to fly the Confederate Battle flag. Not everyone who flies it is racist.

"You're all stupid."

WoW wHaT aN eLoQuEnT AnD CoMpELLinG ArGumEnT!

"Lincoln WAS a Republican"

And a racist

"and the KKK was founded by Democrats"

Conservative Democrats

"Also, there are other reasons to fly the Confederate Battle flag. Not everyone who flies it is racist"

It's a pretty good indication, though

As were most people at the time. But he also had a large change of heart.

How do you figure

Is it though? I have a Confederate flag and I only have it because I collect historical flags. Like I said, doesn't mean racism.

Also there should be a question mark....

It looks cool. That is why my freind and I like the confederate flag. I also like the Soviet anthem, but that doesn't make me a communist.

" "and the KKK was founded by Democrats"

Conservative Democrats"

For the nth time, no.
If you go along with the lie you only serve to in effect verify it.

What occurred that just so happened to neuter the KKK and reduce them into a sponsor of annual parades and picnics in select small towns in the middle of nowhere?
The Southern Poverty Law Center.
What did they do?
They sued them.
A clandestine organization, difficult to tie them to the crimes they committed.
Now if they were an arm of the Democrat Party, what do you think would remain of the largest political party, other than a footnote in history books?

My parents have been registered Democrats since way back, my ma since at least JFK. They're Conservatives, not these fakers who think Conservatism means bring back segregation while they hump everything that can crawl into the barn - OLD country Conservatives. It was like a nightmare Ozzy and Harriet growing up. They think everyone (except some studly fellas and rare gals of ill repute) in America is - I shit you not - a virgin till marriage, and teen pregancy is something the media made up for the ratings. You DO know where my ma is from, yes? The ONLY people whose single teen pregancies rate hasn't gone down, except since 2020. Maybe.
You know what would have happened to my folks if they settled in the South in the 60s instead of NY?

It's ok to say that the KKK was founded by the very people who are the only ones allowed to join. Protestant Brits (incl Scots, who are Celts) and other Teutonic men. Period. Racist. Started in the South.

You look at all these laws and amendents extending freedoms and rights to people who aren't Protestant Brits (incl Scots, who are Celts) and other Teutonic men, and the voting lines are drawn where? That's right, along North and South lines. This goes all the way back to the Sainted Founding Fathers, who were what? Protestant Brits (incl Scots, who are Celts) and other Teutonic men. Except back then is was all of the nascent USA, because they were the vast majority and slavery was practiced all the way north to Canada. Frigs, check out the last place in Canada to get rid of segregation. In 1985. That's right, 1985. Turns out Protestant Brits (incl Scots, who are Celts) and other Teutonic men kinda got around a bit.

In the 1860s, the Democrat Party at various points cleaved into FIVE competing entities, while, despite the nue revisonist lie, it disappeared in the Confederacy because they had NO parties. Zero.

Lincoln was a Republican, and the KKK was founded by Democrats. Anyways, Juneteenth was the day the Republicans freed all the Democrats slaves.

How's this Lincoln shitter fella for a source?

Something called "the Union" in a place called "the North" by people called "the Liberals" did, despite the war waged by racist Southern Conservatives in a place called "the Confederacy" to conserve their practice of slavery.

Bullshit. Anyway, Lincoln's main job as president is preserve the Union. If he could keep it together without freeing slaves, it was his sworn duty as president to do it. He could focus on freeing them later.

How is it bullshit when it's an actual quote of his?

Because it is a non sequitur. All Lincoln is saying is that his first and foremost priority was to preserve the Union.

And then proceeds to refer to specific snippets of it,,,

Lincoln lied? So why are you referring to specific snippets of it as truthful?

"Juneteenth was the day the Republicans freed all the Democrats slaves"

That's not remotely accurate

Oh yes it is.

Republicans didn't free any slaves on Juneteenth, that was just the day that slaves in Texas found out the emancipation proclamation was passed

And the Emancipation Proclamation was issued by Abraham Lincoln, a Republican.

Yes, and it didn't really do anything. It applied to states which were longer in the union so it had no authority behind it

Actually it did. All areas under Union control, like Tennessee and parts of Virginia, had immediate effect. It also applied to areas that came under Union control later, like New Orleans. And besides, after the EP, the REPUBLICAN LED Congress passed the 13th Amendment.

Back when the Republicans (many of them, anyway) were more liberal

Yes, actually. I want people to be treated equally and not judged or mistreated based on their skin color.

Awesome. Me too.

Although I would add more than just skin color

Of course. We should treat everyone with human dignity. We don't have to say they're correct (in regards to gender ideology) but we should treat them with respect.

Classically liberal? Of course. I am on many issues a classical liberal.

But the "liberal" of today? No.

Do you support equality for everyone?

False, the Lincoln and his party were never liberal.

#therewasneveraswitch

False, the Border States, having remained in the Union, as well as Confederate territory later occupied from the Union, were allowed to maintain slavery as they were EXEMPT from the Emancipation Proclamation, which was never something to be enforced in the CSA to begin with anyways.

Yes. I did say that. And it's true. Many of the slaves in Union controlled areas were freed. I also said that enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation was sporadic. I don't see how those two statements are incompatible.

Correct, you did, AFTER I corrected your bogus revisionism.

You can stop cramming my notifs with this reiterating what I said silliness now.

And in regards to your other comment, which you so conveniently placed where I could not reply to it, Lincoln did say that. But over the course of the war, he began to have a change of heart, and was good friends with Frederick Douglass. Regardless he still signed the emancipation proclamation, and was a member of the Republican party, the party that passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments.

I placed what so that what?

Can we stop wasting my time with your nonsense?
You posted partisan hack material that, as demonstrated by you repeatedly repeating what I stated as if I was you, you are aware is a lie. All that's left at this point is for you to say that that's what you did or just cease replying. You can't convince me of what I already know and posted. "You're wrong because you're right" isn't a valid argument. Doesn't work like that.

That's... not what I'm saying, but you are entitled to your opinion....

Whenever someone tells their opponent to "cease replying", they generally don't have the best arguments, and know it too.

I do not post opinions, debates, arguments, etc, I post FACTS. I'm long winded enough as is, no need for extra detritus based on how many times someone can click their ruby reds together hoping they'll hit home.

I've no opponents either. This is the web, fer cryin out loud.
Ego based posts make for weak foundations and a cheap excuse to diverge from FACTS.

That you AGREED with the FACTS I posted sums it up. Why you are still attempting to make an argument of it by repeating the FACTS I posted as if I didn't is a desperate attempt to buoy your ego and nothing but.

Nothing wrong with ego, but I'm discussing history, not someone else's psychology.

All I'm saying is that your objections are valid. The fact that you are still trying to make an argument out of that says a lot more than it does about me. I've also not wholly agreed with the premise of most of your points, so to say that I am completely agreeing with you is dishonest.

Uh-huh. Says the one filling my notifications pointlessly.

And when I say that your arguments are valid, I mean that, while true, they lack important historical context and sometimes key pieces of information.

The border states, like Kentucky and maryland, were allowed to maintain slavery because they had never seceded. Union troops, as they moved through the confederacy, freed many slaves as they went. The fact that enforcement was slightly sporadic does not negate its value. Also, may I again remind you that the 13th amendment was passed by a Republican-led Congress.

Do y'all always call bs then proceed to repeat the facts someone just posted like they weren't aware that the facts they just posted that corrected your bogus statement weren't the facts they just posted?

Speaking of which, this includes the (deliberately) erroneous statements that you had posted to which I corrected you on:

▶️ "USA_Patriot76 8h, 1 reply

And the Emancipation Proclamation was issued by Abraham Lincoln, a Republican."

▶️ "Octavia_Melody 6h, 1 reply

Yes, and it didn't really do anything. It applied to states which were longer in the union so it had no authority behind it"

▶️ "USA_Patriot76 5h, 2 replies

Actually it did. All areas under Union control, like Tennessee and parts of Virginia, had immediate effect. It also applied to areas that came under Union control later, like New Orleans. And besides, after the EP, the REPUBLICAN LED Congress passed the 13th Amendment."

▶️ "Modda 1h, 1 reply

False, the Border States, having remained in the Union, as well as Confederate territory later occupied from the Union, were allowed to maintain slavery as they were EXEMPT from the Emancipation Proclamation, which was never something to be enforced in the CSA to begin with anyways."

▶️ USA_Patriot76 <1h

The border states, like Kentucky and maryland, were allowed to maintain slavery because they had never seceded. Union troops, as they moved through the confederacy, freed many slaves as they went. The fact that enforcement was slightly sporadic does not negate its value. Also, may I again remind you that the 13th amendment was passed by a Republican-led Congress."

The 13th Amendment was ratified by 3/4 of the states, so that would be slightly more than the North which forced the seditious South to go along with ratification, albeit with concessions like slave labor in the form of chain gangs and other prisoner work, which became commonly used in the South to fill the gap left by the end of (official) slavery.
This incentivized the targetting for arrest and longer sentences given to to those whom were former slaves or their descendents, and spurred the prison industry into being exactly that. Peonage also managed to slip into that as well, a practice that extended well into the 20th Century.

Don't bother replying. If I need my own posts to be reiterated, I can do so myself.

If my previous statement was too long, here's the Reader's Digest vers:

You're contradicting YOUR post, not mine.

"USA_Patriot76 5h, 2 replies

Actually it did. All areas under Union control, like Tennessee and parts of Virginia, had immediate effect. It also applied to areas that came under Union control later, like New Orleans. And besides, after the EP, the REPUBLICAN LED Congress passed the 13th Amendment."

Lincoln was a republican and the KKK was instituted by democrats, genius.

Lincoln was also a racist. And the KKK was started by conservatives, and has always been run by conservatives

So Lincoln was a racist liberal? Hahaha

The fact is the KKK was created by democrats for democrats. No amount of spin will change that.

"Lincoln was a racist" WOW! The man who freed ALL the slaves and gave them rights as US citizens was racist?

Lincoln didn't do either one of those. He didn't give any rights to former slaves, and the emancipation proclamation only applied to the confederate states which were not under the authority of the federal government so it didn't really have any power behind it.