It's really quite simple

I don't see the universal vasectomy guy. Was he taking a coffee break?

I don’t see “avoid life-threatening complications” on any sign, which is good, because these physically weak sorts of women don’t exist in our worldview!

Good one!

There is not a single "life-threatening condition" for which an abortion is the proper course of action.

Not one.

I agree! Women like this don’t exist, it’s media lies and fake news!

Good one!

I'm agreeing with you that her death didn't matter, what more do you want from me??

Realizing that your whole view of the world is wrong stings a little, doesn't it, CPP?

I understand. I was once a foolish liberal like yourself, which is why you have yet to come up with an argument that I didn't once use myself. I know, therefore, the total lack of substance that your arguments are made of.

It doesn’t hurt. Rejecting my past errors & bathing in the light of Jesus Christ and his teachings feels good and provides endless comfort.

I imagine Donald Trump himself felt the same power & glory when he grew up & shed the radical Leftist ideologies that brainwashed him during his New York upbringing.

"i UsEd To ThInK jUsT lIkE yOu"

Doctor looking at this case will say that the dying fetus poisoned her blood over a period of 2.5 days — but they’re lying to you!

How did that happen, and where is your evidence that this was the cause? It says nowhere in your article that the woman believed this to be the cause. Where are you getting this?

Essentially, you are saying she died from the baby, but all the doctors are lying?

Whatever you're reading is way the radical fake news media reported it. I'm not asking you to believe it, only to point out how the Leftist abortionists will inevitably use tragic fetal & maternal deaths to manipulate the public into supporting genocide. Get ready, the fight is just beginning.

It's almost funny how far in denial you are. You hate abortion and women's rights so much, you refuse to accept that there are times when abortion is medically necessary. So you stick your head in the sand and pretend it never is. Thankfully there are actual doctors who can explain how you're wrong.

"It's almost funny how far in denial you are."

And you have yet to provide a single case where abortion is the correct procedure to save the life of the mother.

He already gave an example, from the woman in Ireland. And every single ectopic pregnancy ever.

And next, I need you to show that the solution to septicemia is an abortion as a normal cause of action.

Even if this had fixed her, and it would appear it would not, you have cited a single case out of billions of murdered babies.

That single case proves you wrong when you say there are no instances when it's medically necessary

"That single case proves you wrong when you say there are no instances when it's medically necessary"

No, it doesn't.

Okay, doctor

"Okay, doctor"

LOL

"That single case proves you wrong when you say there are no instances when it's medically necessary"

Okay, doctor . . . you are funny.

Funny weird, not funny haha.

It's called sarcasm

"It's called sarcasm"

Indeed.

It's called sarcasm.

When you finally arrive at the conclusion that I am a lot smarter than you are, you will cease to feel the need to explain your point to me- it is obvious in its simplistic nature.

"When you finally arrive at the conclusion that I am a lot smarter than you are"

HAHAHAHA!! Good one!! 😂

This is so......... sad

It’s not a normal course of action!

Doctors will say that abnormal circumstances require abnormal interventions — but again, they’re lying to justify their radical genocidal viewpoints.

"Doctors will say that abnormal circumstances require abnormal interventions — but again, they’re lying to justify their radical genocidal viewpoints."

As I reread your article, which is in a newspaper not a medical journal, I note that doctors concluded that an abortion would not have helped her. Are those the doctors of whom you speak?

SO, the normal cause of action would have been to deliver the baby through induced labor, or treat her blood infection the normal way.

Given that there is no way to prove your case, I will grant it to you.

In 2020, ALONE, there were 42,600,000 abortions, that we know of. This means that this one case amounts to precisely 0.0000234742%

So for that, you say nearly 43,000,000 babies should have died?

"Treat it the normal way" - indeed, removing the source of the blood poisoning is one important part of that (is what these radical abortionist doctors would say).

She was doing fine at first, but after 2.5 days of pumping a dying fetus's blood through her system, she wasn't (is what the Leftist dogmatists would tell you).

We're not talking about abortion generally, only these "life of the mother" exceptions that the genocidists want to shove down our throats.

Indeed, you genocidal maniacs DO use these rare events to justify murder, which is precisely how you engaged today.

I am still waiting for an actual medical description of how septicemia should be treated, your "expert" medical opinion notwithstanding.

If the baby was actually the cause of her blood poisoning, there were medical options that had nothing to do with abortion, but you have yet to establish this fact.

Yes these fake "life of the mother" situations are rare. What matters is the much more common situations where these promiscuous harlots want to prioritize their careers instead, or get raped or forced into incest, or their husbands leave them midway through pregnancy, or they plan to start a family later in life, or they already had 3 kids and can't afford a 4th, or the fetus has a genetic disorder, yadda yadda. All things these Leftists love to yammer about.

It doesn't really matter what the situation is. Her womb belongs to the state - I agree with you!

" . . . all you have to do now is join your brothers & sisters in Christ in getting the word out and the tide of moral degeneracy will be turned in this country."

Has it occurred to yet that I am working on you? I am not here to save the world- Christ offers that to all. My charge is to proclaim the truth to those who I come across.

And sometimes it starts with knocking down some false idols.

2 Corinthians 10:3-5

For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh.
For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh,
but have divine power to destroy strongholds.
We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God,
and take every thought captive to obey Christ . . .

Yes, I'm even more committed now to the cause of Life than I was when I entered this conversation. And for that I have only you to thank.

-Yours in Christ, CPP_89

"You can debunk those too."

So far, I have obviously debunked everything else you have come up with. I think you have been humiliated enough.

Don't you think you have?

Using facts & logic you have debunked every possible Leftist excuse for committing fetal genocide on a massive scale, all you have to do now is join your brothers & sisters in Christ in getting the word out and the tide of moral degeneracy will be turned in this country.

"Yes these fake "life of the mother" situations are rare."
Indeed, so rare that one wonders why you brought them up in the first place. Your indoctrination is showing.

"What matters is the much more common situations where these promiscuous harlots want to prioritize their careers instead,"
So, a mother has a 4 year old, but REALLY wants to apply for that new job at Walmart- she should be able to murder her child because of *careers*.

" or get raped or forced into incest,"
This is almost as rare as threats to the life of the mother, but what you are really saying is that a human being should be given the death penalty for the crimes of the father.

" or their husbands leave them midway through pregnancy,"
So, when life gets a little hard we should just start killing off those we deem to be an inconvenience?

" or they plan to start a family later in life,"
You thoughtless libs are priceless, are you not? If people actually planned in the first place, this debate would not exist. But hey, I didn't want to start my family for another 5 years, so let's kill the family I have now?

" or they already had 3 kids and can't afford a 4th,"
Ah, the ever important love of money. I want my things, so sorry junior, you gotta go! Of course, adoption to avoid the financial RESPONSIBILITY of procreating would be just awful!

" or the fetus has a genetic disorder,"
You would be surprised how many stories there are out there where doctors proclaimed someone's baby would live a horrible life, and they came out 100% healthy. Of course, even if they didn't, you would also be surprised how many people YOU would deem unworthy of life (genetic disorders) have a fruitful and happy life, and are loved by their parents. If you actually care to remove your head from your perverse, liberal derriere, LifeNews.com has many of these stories, along with stories from those who have survived an abortion. Those who have survived an abortion do more to incriminate the likes of you than you could ever imagine.

" yadda yadda. All things these Leftists love to yammer about."
Admittedly, I am a fan of being sublime, and while yours is extremely paper-thin, still, this is the most you have going for you. I urge you to consider doing better with your life though.

"It doesn't really matter what the situation is. Her womb belongs to the state - I agree with you!""
Of course, this is not the issue. The issue is that there are two bodies involved in this situation.

I forgot to list the underage pregnancies and failed birth control situations that these Leftist harlot-supporters love to trot out. You can debunk those too.

Survey Asked 5,577 Biologists When Human Life Begins. 96% Said Conception

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/07/11/survey-asked-5577-biologists-when-human-life-begins-96-said-conception/?fbclid=IwAR0yXgp87CZ3qm8zDm8CumOSJWfUp4b-qywhk8JbVVlqjtsu0uMlRq7hUYM

"If the baby was actually the cause of her blood poisoning, there were medical options that had nothing to do with abortion, but you have yet to establish this fact."

Medical options like what?

https://tinyurl.com/29tfmvb9

She tends to meander around for the first 5 minutes, but then gets to the point of your *one* example that wasn't an example.

"Medical options like what?"

Are you suggesting that there are no medical treatments yet discovered to deal with blood poisoning?

I'm not going to track all your inane comments down- have you found proof that the baby was the cause of the blood poisoning?

"Are you suggesting that there are no medical treatments yet discovered to deal with blood poisoning?"

I'm referring to medical treatments that could salvage the pregnancy

"have you found proof that the baby was the cause of the blood poisoning?"

That's what it sure sounds like

"I'm referring to medical treatments that could salvage the pregnancy"

As is your norm, you miss the point entirely.

There is no medical need that requires an abortion, period.

Take an ectopic pregnancy, where the new *human* life is stuck in the Fallopian tube- there is zero chance that the baby can survive there, and zero chance that they can (for now?) help it to implant correctly, but if allowed to proceed unchecked, this will kill the mother. In this instance, a surgery is necessary which will result in the premature death of the baby.

This is not an abortion.

You keep saying there are instances, but have yet to provide a single one.

"There is no medical need that requires an abortion, period"

So you're saying there are literally no serious complications that could arise with a pregnancy. You seem to think a pregnancy is the one circumstance where no serious complications could possibly happen.

"Take an ectopic pregnancy, where the new *human* life is stuck in the Fallopian tube- there is zero chance that the baby can survive there, and zero chance that they can (for now?) help it to implant correctly, but if allowed to proceed unchecked, this will kill the mother. In this instance, a surgery is necessary which will result in the premature death of the baby. This is not an abortion."

Abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy. An ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that must necessarily be terminated.

"Thankfully you never figured out which ones are mine."

It's cute that you think yourself worthy of the effort.

Never said I was

"Abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy. An ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that must necessarily be terminated."

This is why you fail so much- ALL of your definitions on important matters are wrong.

Abortion is defined as the murder of a human being. You use the dehumanizing language to avoid what it really is, but deep down you know.

Murder.

And since you vote (if you are actually old enough to vote- I do not believe a single thing you have said about your personal life, aside from the Brony nonsense) for Democrats, you are an Accessory to Murder.

While this won't land you in any human court, your trial date is set.

"Abortion is defined as the murder of a human being"

No, that's not what the word is defined as. Like so many conservative Christians, you have no problem lying when it suits your agenda.

"And since you vote...for Democrats, you are an Accessory to Murder"

And you worship Jehovah, which makes you an accessory to child rape.

"While this won't land you in any human court, your trial date is set"

In your magical court of make-believe? Oh no, I'm terrified.

The only thing more enjoyable than having you as my personal stalker, is having you stalk me across multiple logins.

You're the one who has multiple accounts in the first place. Thankfully you never figured out which ones are mine.

Certainly, since these "life-of-the-mother" situations are SO prevalent, you should have a massive list for us to look over?

I haven't the time but I bet you can Google it and find a host of Leftist fake media publications pushing this narrative.

"I haven't the time but I bet you can Google it and find a host of Leftist fake media publications pushing this narrative."

In other words, they do not exist to such a significant degree that the murder of millions of unborn children is justified. There is a reason why you leftist parrots can only regurgitate bumper sticker slogans when it comes to abortion, because the details do not exist to support your claims.

And the reason Democrats so oppose the overturning of Roe v Wade is because most of their immoral policies and laws would never pass an actual direct vote. They have spent the better part of 5 decades trying to avoid this, because they know that the closer to the actual public this decision is made, the more likely abortion will be made truly rare, if not totally illegal.

You are in the minority on this in the big picture, but you have been lied to by left leaning educators, and a one-sided media, that has made you comfortable in your casual depravity.

I would tell you to take heart, because biblical prophecy tells us that at some point things will get much, much more depraved and horrifying before they get better, but you don't go for such "nonsense". The day when evil will have much more free rein is coming- whether or not it will be in your lifetime is hard to know with certainty, but at least you can hold on to hope that it is.

I agree, the Left is pushing us toward total apocalypse if not revelation. In the meantime, they can keep their little abortion ghettos in the states they dominate till we get around to completely banning abortion nationwide which could be as early as 2025. All we know for sure is the battle between Godly men and women and evil will continue to rage.

"SO, the normal cause of action would have been to deliver the baby through induced labor, or treat her blood infection the normal way"

She was 17 weeks pregnant. If they induced labor, there would be no way to keep the fetus alive outside the womb. There is no medical technology to keep a 17-week-old fetus alive outside the womb. Try again.

Yes there are

"Yes there are"

Yes there are what?

Yes there are life-threatening conditions for which an abortion is the proper course of action