LBGTQ mob disregards parental rights by illegally trying to indoctrinate children. . .

It sickens me that they subject kids to this

Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

The level of liberal fanaticism in CA is off the charts. I hope the lady wins her case!

This is literal heresy to god and what he has created....

Right? If we have to have private Christian schools (which I support), they should have their little private gay schools.

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Religion is a social construct, gender is a social construct. May I ask why they’re any differently

being gay in my religion is heresy, there you go, still what the school did wether I had my christian bias or not, is still f**ked up.

ok straight up god specifies multiple times that gayness is not what he had planned. In leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”[1] It is not a surprise that this verse seems to say that gay male sex is forbidden in the eyes of God. The dominant view of western Christianity forbids same-sex relations. ...

Bro. Breaking the law of god is heresy. also the bible only allows murder under the following conditions : If they are trying to KILL YOU, or they have murdered many others.
God.
Also, the forms of servitude and slavery practiced in a biblical context bear little resemblance to the tyrannical type of slavery found in the American antebellum South and in other modern Western countries. Certain moderate forms of “servitude”—for example, indentured (voluntary) servitude—were considered morally beneficial before God under certain circumstances in the Old Testament. Examples of this are seen in voluntary indenturement in order to earn a living or to learn a trade. It could also include the indenturement of a criminal in order for the offender to render restitution. But in none of these moderate cases, nor even the more extreme case of foreigners captured by the Israelites in war, would the so-called slave or servant be viewed as a mere piece of property without human rights. Nor would the time of servitude be constituted as a life term of bondage (Deuteronomy 15:12-13). Many slaves in the ancient world, and especially those held by the Hebrews, were able to earn their freedom.

The Israelites from the book of exodus where slaves and god brought down his wrath upon the pharaoh. and yes if you commit blasphemy, especially in front of a child, it would be better that you didn't exist. The scale of setting a child astray from god is unimaginably large, as that very child could raise generations of sinners themselves, causing the cycle to repeat over and over. and yes WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE RULES OF GOD! You guys try to dehumanize the bible and only look at the harshest parts.

I only have one question, have you read the bible? if you haven't where is the backbone to these horrendous statements? and don't tell you you got it from the internet, get a physical copy, read it, and understand our standpoint before trying to fight it with a weak thesis based off of small portions and bits, that you contort into some sort of evil.

He's right they're social constructs though

A mighty personal emotionally charged perspective on something you believe does not exist?

Not to mention the belief in which, that despite you misgivings, has given us the world we live in.
Saving BILLIONS of people from disease and famine - death that was the norm before Truman decided to recreate the world in our image, wiring it up, giving it tech - heck, them cute cuddly pandas in China would have been exinct generations ago if it wasn't for us, and they'd be dumping their waste in the ocean and burning the rest that didn't make it down the Yellow River at a rate that Al Gore's worst nightmare would look like a polar icecap in comparison to the Venusian one they would have wrought - according to the climate models, that is.

Even those rights you may say that have been held back by said belief, wasn't exactly an accident that it never occurred to other cultures to encode them into law. Sure, maybe in some small Pacific islands this, begging/servicing for change by the Ganges by that painted lot, but you got Cyrus the Great's declaration of human rights, you got the Magna Carta, and nothing before, in between, or after - other than us. Like it or not, the one God that made us custodians of the Earth ironically lead to us who had acted as if it was ours to do as we will to ultimately turn around and save it. In the entirety of the existence of the human species you'd be hard pressed to find any others ever even proposing such, let alone exporting it outside their borders, something no one else has ever done in history, and to this day barely do other than toss in some token pocket change into that collection plate while we do the majority. We even protect these barbarians from each other. That's a bit different from what Ukraine and Taiwan, etc, are on the precipice of courtesy of the other two world powers.
We're far from perfect, but the rest of the world has always been farther from anything that is remotely good till we conquered it.

Atheism has done the same

As if anything to have ever existed hasn't done what we may term "good" and "bad"?
Even the Big Bang sucked really bad for that big ball of primordial gas, and to the expanse it has been invading ever since.
The very act of life is parasitism. That is literally what defines something as alive - leaching as part of a process of sustaining the act of expanding and replicating.

hahaha, I just answered the biggest question of all time. And that one was a Mach II I just came up with!

do not discriminate against any sect or harass others, or otherwise make it less fun for other people.

Bible reading tip: Start with the New Testament first.

The NT was written Roman Pagans.

The NT was written by witnesses to Christ who may have been former pagans (Gentiles) and Jewish converts.

It was ALL written long after anyone who may have known Jesus DIED. Of old age.

The Apostle John the Evangelist (the one whom Jesus gave his mother Mary into his care) was still alive when the Apocalypse was penned. And alive when the Gospel of John was penned.

NONE of the Gospels were written by any of the Apostles (nor anyone who was an actual witness or cotemporary), and Revelations was supposedly written by John the Elder, although probably just a collection from various writers.

Must have been one old fella, as "the Apocalypse was penned" by Zorastrians centuries before.

NONE of the Gospels were written by any of the Apostles (nor anyone who was an actual witness or cotemporary), and Revelations was supposedly written by John the Elder near the end of the First Century AD, although probably just a collection from various writers.

Must have been one old fella, as "the Apocalypse was penned" by Zorastrians centuries before.

Immaterial "who" wrote it. The gospels were initially oral tradition before they were put to pen and paper. Like the OT 4000 years ago.

The Apostle John, who wrote the Gospel of John, was alive but extrememly old when he wrote it, as well as the Book of Revelation when he was an exile of Patmos.

If you don't believe that Jesus was the Son of God who rose from the dead and ascended to heaven this debate is fruitless. I have nothing further to say.

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You also should have some idea of the historical context and the harshness of the conditions and political environment that the Israelites lived in, where they were living tooth and claw fighting to survive against other hostiles. Their rules regarding slavery, which have certain protections for slaves and women, were compassionate for the time it was written and intended, even though they are considered barbaric by today's standards. The institution of slavery existed in the ancient world. The Israelites weren't condoning slavery when they created rules limiting punishments for slaves and provided limited protections for them which was quite novel for the time even though it has been construed as an excuse for slave ownership in the Pre-Bellum American South.

You can do it that way, but if you want to know understand the Bible better from the Christian perspective it makes more sense to start with the NT and then go to the OT for "the back story". I'm not trying to open a can of worms here with Bible literalists but some aspects of the OT are better understood as allegory. I would get a Bible with good study notes it helps a lot because context is important when looking at averse within a particular passage.

Mark 12:28-31

Actually it's not the first Commandement.
You CAN look it up you know.

Jesus knew what the Law was when he quoted it.

Deuteronomy 6:5 “And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.”

Leviticus 19:18 “You shall not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbour as yourself: I am the LORD.”

So what I said then? Not that that is an actual reply to my comment.

Do you have a question or are you trying to start a scripture war of Who Said What, and Where? Again, you must be either SDA, JW, or Jewish, or ex of any of those.

And where are you trying to take this? 'Thou shalt not worship graven images before me? (Anti-Catholic noise) Keep Holy the Sabbath Day (SDA noise/ Anti Sunday worship). This has aready been debated in other forums. This is not the stream for this, and you will not accomplish anything but to sow discord with some misguided quest of self-justification. Get over it.

Fella, FOUR replies since we exited this with you repeating that you don't want to argue what no one is arguing except you and your remarks aimed at offending what you claim are my religions?

Let me guess: Jewish (or former Jewish), Seventh Day Adventist, or Jehovah Witness. So Pharisaic.

I've taken to looking for translations by Jewish scholars from Jewsih quotes and reading what they have to say on their sites as opposed to Christian revisionist justification sites with lead sheethed biases.

Have you heard of repenting? You will get judged and do deserve any punishment if you don't repent after committing a sin. All you have to do is repent, don't do it again, and move on with your life, because while our god is harsh, he does forgive. Why do you think he sent his son to die, for us. People who have worshipped other gods, who have murdered, raped, and whatnot.

Yes we sin, but we must repent, if you don't and if you keep doing it without trying to stop it, YES you deserve any punishment justified by god. I don't really care if it isn't your cup of tea, just don't even TRY to send people the other way, let them chose, otherwise you are just as bad as the teachers who forced the girl to be gay.

Man...I don't even know, look. it seems you we can't find an agreement and you just want to live a life in blasphemy, so let us just respectfully disagree. Anything you comment back on. I just won't respond to, if you aren't gonna listen and just think that basic rules in any religion are wrong, but know that the church gave architecture, charity, the basis of economics, and a lot of things we use now adays.

If there is one thing we can agree on, it is that the teachers in this post are bad people none the less. setting any religious bias aside, it is just messed up.

Except the Book says only 144,000 Sainted Chosen plus a few Gentiles judged righteous by their works will enter the Pearly Gates - and that's NT.

Just a heads up
"He who is without sin throw the first stone"
The bible says we can't just kill unbelievers

Also a lot of the rules in America are based off Christian rules passed down from the puritans

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"

A practice American colonists not only used as an excuse to warrant the murder of the indigenous and slaves when they wanted, but even their own who they supected of engaging in the craft of...

Yeah humanity is evil

One person's "evil" is another's "righteous"...

yeah

No problem with the other comment, was more an op/ed/rant piece anyways.
I had redone it, as I missed one word and my response was skewed because of it! I omitted one nagging line too, in case you saw that, so never mind, all's good!

That's a new testament quote from Jesus actually

It doesn't though I think Jesus said something about those too

What it means is even if someone has done a blasphemous thing you shouldn't be too harsh for you yourself are still a sinful individual

"Would you rather live in a society where the rules are based on logic and reason, or one where the rules are based on some ancient holy book?"

In the late 80s, Japan made a deal with Argentina to allow it to 'harvest' one million penguins a year from a rookery of two million adults. Argentinians en masse protested this, finding such mass slaughter quite heinous, an annual killing that would soon extirpate the penguins as well. The Argentinian gov't then rescinded the agreement before ithe massacre began.

Why would the Japanese - one of only three countries that still hunts whales - engage in such wholesale slaughter? After all, Shinto - unlike Judeo/Chrisianity - teaches other species are equal to people, and should be treated as such. Which IS exactly why they kill them - land prone to devastating earthquakes and cyclones and tsunamis has taught the Japanese that life is a struggle, one they must fight for, therefore so should other creatures fight for theirs.
Welcome to real equality.

We admire how the Plains 'Indians' utilized every single bit of bison they killed. What most don't hear about is that after the introduction of horses and firearms - which made hunting easier - more bison were killed, and every bit wasn't considered that precious anymore as there was more to spare and spare it they did, discarded as waste.
Their culture was also framed by religious nature based philosophy that believes other creatures are the equals of people, therefore it was fair to kill them as you can because that's what they do too.
Welcome to real equality.

The Bible saying man shall have dominion over the earth and all its creatures means not just a privilege, but a responsibilty. That's why instead of exterminating every single last Japanese in accordance to their rules of engagement of the very war they started after they lost, we turned them into the second biggest economy on the planet (prior the ascendency of China).
Check out what the Nipponese did to the Ainu - the original indigenous of Japan - in the process of modernizing Japan.
Welcome to real equality.

So would you rather live in a society where the rules are based on logic and reason, or one where the rules are based on some ancient holy book that says we are custodians while logic and reason dicate that the rules are that it's an even playing field and all must fight for themselves or take what's coming when the more powerful stomp down and stomp down hard according to nature's way?

How can Shinto beliefs be the basis of their motivation when penguins have been unknown to the Japanese diet, being native solely to colder climes of the Southern Hemisphere and thus not something particularly known to visit the Japanese palette like ever? Plastic haute cuisine has been the motivation for a people racing to exterminate everything that swims from whales to tuna.
Not even hunger, just a nouveau riche-ish people doing their damndest trying to emulate the fine art of faux-fancy restaurant dining from the conquerors that had their Emperor announce to his chattel subjects that he was not a God when he opted not to kamikazi himself and country into a cloud of atomized particles.

Attitudes from Shinto beliefs provided the justification, or at least what framed their mindset and attitudes regarding that which isn't human. Remember, theirs is a more philosophical approach to life, not as mired to customs as dictated by a book of scripture and that's not just because they don't even have one.

EVERY single rights movement in Planet Earth's history began where by whom and why again? Even Rosa Parks on the bus got everyone going from Incas in Bolivia to occupied Northen Ireland to Australian Aboriginals.

Name one nation - other than Iran under Cyrus 2600 years ago - that GAVE instead of just TOOK from its conquered - and the USA in effect conquered or liberated the entirety of the planet threatened by the boots of Germany and Japan. Not to mention that unlike ancient Iran, we didn't tax our new minions.

Go ahead, ask your grandparents about life under a thatched roof mudbrick one room home where they brought the hogs and Bessie inside for the winter to help stay warm and borrowed a donkey to go miles to the nearest blacksmith to trade bushels of potatoes for a plow blade and the wonders of cooking dinner over dried cow pies. A mere THREE generations and people forgot how EVERYONE used to live pre-Post War before Truman & Co decided to give them all concrete and electricity and fertilzer and blue jeans and Rock n Roll.

Just because you have a disdain for a particular religion doesn't mean that despite, or even because of, the misdeads committed in its name nothing good came of it. Like it or not a lot, the best humanity has ever seen in history was wrought by its believers. And there ain't a dang thing anyone can pretend to say to change that,,,

I think we should combine both and reach an equilibrium. I am not saying you deserve to die, I am saying that if you live a life of sin without repentance, you could be cast to an eternity of suffering, do I want that to happen to people, HELL NO! That is why I have been trying to tell you that we aren't as toxic on the surface as we seem, The people you brought up that rape, aren't proper christians at all and lie as a horrible example. Look at the ten commandments and tell me if this is as barbaric as it seems.
“I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.”
This commandment forbids idolatry, the worship of false gods and goddesses, and it prohibits polytheism, the belief in many gods, insisting instead on monotheism, the belief in one God. This commandment forbids making golden calves, building temples to Isis, and worshipping statues of Caesar, for example.

“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
The faithful are required to honor the name of God. It makes sense that if you’re to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, then you’re naturally to respect the name of God with equal passion and vigor.

“Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.”
The Jewish celebration of Sabbath (Shabbat) begins at sundown on Friday evening and lasts until sundown on Saturday. Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christians go to church on Sunday, treating it as the Lord’s Day instead of Saturday to honor the day Christ rose from the dead.

“Honor thy father and mother.”
This commandment obliges the faithful to show respect for their parents — as children and adults. Children must obey their parents, and adults must respect and see to the care of their parents when they become old and infirm.

“Thou shalt not kill.”
The better translation from the Hebrew would be “Thou shalt not murder” — a subtle distinction but an important one to the Church. Killing an innocent person is considered murder. Killing an unjust aggressor to preserve your own life is still killing, but it isn’t considered murder or immoral.

“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
The sixth and ninth commandments honor human sexuality. This commandment forbids the actual, physical act of having immoral sexual activity, specifically adultery, which is sex with someone else’s spouse or a spouse cheating on their partner. This commandment also includes fornication, which is sex between unmarried people, prostitution, pornography, homosexual activity, and whatnot.

too me those seem really similar to modern rules. these are basic morals mixed with honoring god. is that so hard? Yes I think we should live off of the rules of a holy text. Here. let's keep it peaceful, I think if we set aside our bias's we could be friends. Meet me in the meme chat. But could you send the link I am new to this app and I don't know how to do that.

do not discriminate against any sect or harass others, or otherwise make it less fun for other people.

Good point

Harassment

Racist