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TWO "KEY WORDS" IN THAT AMENDMENT IS THE WORD "STATE" AND "PEOPLE" THE OTHERS ARE "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"; AND THERE ARE NO "EXCEPTIONS" CONTAINED WITHIN THAT AMENDMENT SO REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU "RATIONALIZE" THEM EVERY SINGLE GUN "LAW" IN AMERICA IS BLATANTLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL; LOCAL, STATE, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE UTTERLY NO GENIUNE AUTHORITY TO CREATE A SINGLE GUN "LAW' THAT RESTRICTS OWNERSHIP OF A GUN/GUNS; AND NO JUDGE OR "COP" HAS A GENIUNE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE SUCH "LAWS"; YOU CAN'T CLAIM TO BE A "PATRIOT" OR TO LOVE AMERICA AND THE CONSTITUTION WHILE CARVING OUT EXECPTIONS TO WHAT YOU ALSO CLAIM IS THE "LAW OF THE LAND"; IT TAKES A 2/3 MAJORITY TO ALTER THE CONSTITUTION SO UNTIL THAT HAPPENS ANYONE WHO IMPOSES OR SUPPORTS THE ENFORCMENT OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL "LAWS" IS ANYTHING BUT A "PATRIOT" OR LOVER OF AMERICA | image tagged in 2nd amendment,george carlin,sam elliott | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 3y,
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'Well-Regulated" in the 1790's meant being able to load and fire 3 rounds in one minute.
It did not, and DOES NOT mean what YOU think it means, aunty.
Nice try, but as usual, you FAIL
4 ups, 3y
We guess SCOTUS literally disagreed with you when it ruled The 2nd Amendment includes "modern" present day weapns such as AR-15's
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3 ups, 3y,
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It means for the love of all things please make sure people with guns are regulated and it is necessary.
3 ups, 3y,
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Utterly wrong you are purposesly ignoring the entire text. Your very bad interpation is a contradiction

1. If they "intended" this "militia" to the "ONE" entity to possess all "weapons" they clearly never made your interpation clear.

2. It clearly states the PEOPLES "right" Not the well regulated militia.

Here is the definitions of "militia"

militia
[məˈliSHə]
NOUN
a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
"creating a militia was no answer to the army's manpower problem" · [more]
synonyms:
armed forces · army · forces · services · soldiery · navy · air force · marines · special forces
a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.
synonyms:
armed force · force · military detachment · military unit · unit · platoon · brigade · regiment · squadron · battalion · company · legion · corps · troops · soldiers
historical
(in the US) all able-bodied citizens eligible by law to be called on to provide military service supplementary to the regular armed forces.

Current Non Governmental militias in America possess their own weapons as individuals. Our to poke fun of them they go play Army and then take their guns home.

The 2nd Amendment clearly intended for indivual Americans to possess guns. CASE CLOSED
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3 ups, 3y
Yeah, that'd make it the most notoriously poorly-worded phrase in legislative history or something. There's just unpossible!
3 ups, 3y,
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Actually in the language of the time, it was more about an individual being proficient in the use of a weapon.
2 ups, 3y,
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LOLOLOLOLOL. That is some top notch and totally unfounded BS
2 ups, 3y,
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There's suposedly two of yous and you can't try looking things up?
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supposedly*
0 ups, 3y
We did decades ago. It's called The Constitution and it is crytsal clear
0 ups, 3y
Actually not. What happened immediately prior to the Bill of Rights being written? The little underdog colonies whupping a tyrannical government that boasted the mightiest military on the globe by using mostly the citizen soldiers.

Why would the founders want to establish a military industrial complex led by their own tyrannical government? No, here's quick history of militia up to the time of the constitution: Among the Anglo-Saxon peoples of early medieval Europe, the militia was institutionalized in the fyrd, in which every able-bodied free male was required to give military service. In colonial America the militia, based on the tradition of the fyrd, was the only defense against hostile Indians during the long periods when regular British forces were not available. During the American Revolution, the militia provided the bulk of the American forces as well as a pool for recruiting or drafting of regulars. https://www.britannica.com/topic/militia

Want to go to a system of every able bodied free male (and female and whatever) required to give military service? Then we'll have a militia. I've already done my time in uniform. Come back at me when you've served, I'll wait.

Sorry OAE - I'm not directing this rant at you, more actually to antithesis. This is a strange day indeed, I find myself agreeing with you and Modda on 2A.
4 ups, 3y,
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bullshit.
do some actual research into the thinking of the Founders when they included that Right in the Bill of Rights, Skeezix.
You see, I HAVE. I know EXACTLY what the frame of mind the Founders were in when they promulgated that Amendment.
It was to protect us, the CITIZENS, from people like you
4 ups, 3y
No, it was to give right to get drafted for defense against invaders. For free!
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3 ups, 3y,
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The frame of mind was for the love of all things please make sure people with guns are regulated and it is necessary.
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You are pathetically attempting that you have specialized knowledge of what the founders were thinking.

It does not matter what they may have been "thinking" The only thing that "matters" is what they FACTUALLY wrote down
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2 ups, 3y
What they wrote down was for the love of all things please make sure people with guns are regulated and it is necessary.
2 ups, 3y,
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You up for a stop and frisk city wide crackdown in Chicago to remove illegal guns off the streets?
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3 ups, 3y,
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Sure, if you'll also stop selling them the guns completely legally down the street in Indiana. Like, literally down the street. You can take a bus ride, it is that close.
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2 ups, 3y
"Stop and frisk laws" are likewise blatantly unconstitutional. They violate the 2nd, 4th and 5th Amedments
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3 ups, 3y,
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Shall not be infringed. By order of GOD. So choke on it.
4 ups, 3y
The Second Amendment has two parts,
a prefatory clause:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"
and an operative clause:
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed"

The prefatory clause is the purpose, the reason.
The operative clause is how it's done.

Second Amendment gives you the right - or rather, duty - to get conscripted - as a volunteer, not only without pay, but you have to supply your own arms and bullets as well.
Congrats, you have the right to join your National Guard. For free. And don't forget, it's a BYOGuns!
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4 ups, 3y,
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Oh yeah? And which Bible verse has the words "shall not be infringed" in it exactly?
3 ups, 3y,
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It must burn you to no end that America was founded on Christianity LEL and you can never change that
4 ups, 3y
Considering the founders took the time to declare then write it down you are very mistaken.

America was not founded as a "Christian" nation or ANY religion. It was founded on the premise people can be WHATEVER they want.

Case closed no matter how much BS you spew about it
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4 ups, 3y,
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I don't have to. It was already not like that from the start.
2 ups, 3y,
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Haha keep coping.
3 ups, 3y,
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If you actually think America was "founded" as a "Christian" nation then go tell all the people of other "religions" they must pack up and leave because they founders intended America to be Christian

See how that works out for you.
1 up, 3y
"America" was never founded as a Christian nation because it's a hemisphere.
The United States of America which you seem to be referring to was never founded as a nation either as it is a federation, not a nation, currently consisting of 50 nations and territories.

While freedom of religion was granted in the First Amendment, the right to vote was given to common people, it initially was only granted to White Protestant land owning males over 21.
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"They are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"
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4 ups, 3y
Not only is that not in the Bible, that's also not a book chapter and verse citation. You've not understood the question.
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3 ups, 3y
To invoke "god" you must 1st provide factual proof a "god" exists in the 1st place. Then you must be able to prove that this "god" is the "Christian God"

There are more but just grasp that this unproven "god" you speak of is NEVER mentioned in The Constitution.

Freedom of Religion? The Amendment does not specify a "Christian God" or any "god"
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The reason your a utter ============= for posting this is

It is a parents job and responsibilty that such a thing NEVER occurs. Right wingers love ranting about such responsibilty the photo itself is just as dumb as your comment
2 ups, 3y,
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Judging from the number of deaths resulting from small children getting their hands on guns, I'd say parents aren't taking that responsibility seriously.
0 ups, 3y
Nope they are not but has ZERO to do with the 2nd Amendment
1 up, 3y,
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Proper grammar goes a long way when trying to fling such insults.
Not long enough, however, as your point makes no sense, you missed the point of that pic & meme, you misspell and don't use punctuation like you breath.
0 ups, 3y,
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The grammar of The Constitution is crystal clear
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It might seem that way to ammosexuals.
0 ups, 3y
Your pathetic attempt at logical fallacies don't change the text of the Amendment and never will.
0 ups, 3y
Giving "lock n load" a whole new dimension,,,
0 ups, 3y,
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Actually 18th Century language isn't necessarily always entirely clear to those not well versed in it in the 21st Century.
0 ups, 3y
Actually you can keep posting until your blue in the face it won't change what the text clearly states.

The only subject matter SCOTUS is utterly wrong about is their never ending "rubber stamp" of laws that are blatantly unconstitutional.

When they rule a law that is clearly unconstitutional as "constitutional" they are purposely going beyond their granted authority and basing decisions on thier "feelings" and "opinions"

NOT THE ACTUAL TEXT
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The key words, to me, are "FREE", "SECURITY" and "RIGHT"
It is our God-given RIGHT to be FREE and firerarms provide that SECURITY
3 ups, 3y
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" is its operative clause, the purpose; "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" is its operative clause, the how it's to be done.

AKA It is our State-given right to get conscripted. And for free. And the conscipts have to supply their own arms to boot!
2 ups, 3y
You are correct yet that does not stop you from supporting the people who violate the constitution daily. We are pretty sure we have spoken to you about this before.

All gun laws are unconstitutional. ALL OF THEM and that includes "felony restrictions"

1. There are all sorts of "felony" crimes that never involves a gun or any weapond at all. The term "felony" is legal speak for a "crime" that can be punished by more than a year in jail and theft crimes involving larger sums of money.

2. No unconstitutional gun laws will ever protect anyone. What is that old saying?? Oh yeah "criminals" don't obey they law.

3. If you actually believe people "give up" their "rights" when they commit a possible crime you are simply rationalizing your support for violating The Constitution

Even someone who has done "serious time" in prison has a natural right to DEFEND themsleves, family and home against others.
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'Well-Regulated" in the 1790's meant being able to load and fire 3 rounds in one minute.
It did not, and DOES NOT mean what YOU think it means, aunty.
Nice try, but as usual, you FAIL, TWICE!
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It means for the love of all things please make sure people with guns are regulated and it is necessary.
0 ups, 3y
If the libs back then argued like they do today. (Sorry, not all libs - as I said, I still can't believe that I'm mostly agreeing with both Modda and OAE on this thread.)
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    TWO "KEY WORDS" IN THAT AMENDMENT IS THE WORD "STATE" AND "PEOPLE" THE OTHERS ARE "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"; AND THERE ARE NO "EXCEPTIONS" CONTAINED WITHIN THAT AMENDMENT SO REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU "RATIONALIZE" THEM EVERY SINGLE GUN "LAW" IN AMERICA IS BLATANTLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL; LOCAL, STATE, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE UTTERLY NO GENIUNE AUTHORITY TO CREATE A SINGLE GUN "LAW' THAT RESTRICTS OWNERSHIP OF A GUN/GUNS; AND NO JUDGE OR "COP" HAS A GENIUNE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE SUCH "LAWS"; YOU CAN'T CLAIM TO BE A "PATRIOT" OR TO LOVE AMERICA AND THE CONSTITUTION WHILE CARVING OUT EXECPTIONS TO WHAT YOU ALSO CLAIM IS THE "LAW OF THE LAND"; IT TAKES A 2/3 MAJORITY TO ALTER THE CONSTITUTION SO UNTIL THAT HAPPENS ANYONE WHO IMPOSES OR SUPPORTS THE ENFORCMENT OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL "LAWS" IS ANYTHING BUT A "PATRIOT" OR LOVER OF AMERICA