BLM leader shot and killed in England

Wow, you always make so much sense...

NOT!

It doesn't make sense. That's the point. Neither does:
SHE PROVED BLACK LIVES DON'T REALLY MATTER TO BLACK PEOPLE & WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE GUNS, ONLY CRIMINALS WILL HAVE THEM

Of course it doesn't when you're a libtard.
A black person killed a leader of Black Lives Matter.
It's illegal in England to own a gun? Gun control. Isn't that a leftist solution to eliminate gun violence?

The meme only works if you lump all black people together and assume that the people who shot her were somehow representative of all black people. Then you have to lump all liberals together and assume we all want to take guns away. Despite your slippery slope politics where you think everything is building toward no guns, that isn't what I or anyone I know wants.

BLM protests police violence. That has nothing to do with the actions of a criminal, regardless of race.

I'm sure this domed bitch had the same subtleties when it came to white people, right? Same twat who tweeted out whites will be slaves?

Second verse, same as the first.
That only works if you lump people together. Finding the dumbest or most extreme members of a group to dismiss the whole group is exactly what I'm talking about.

Right, she's merely the leader of Britain's blm. Why single her anti white racism out, amirite? It's okay to group every white person as a aggressive colonizer and blame them for all their problems, right?

(not disagreeing with you, just making a point about double standards)

BLM doesn't really have leaders. They are a decentralized group. They are pretty much a hashtag and mission statement.

BLM isn't anti-white. They focus exclusively on when the police kill a black person in a way that is not just. Sometimes they've been wrong about it being injustice. Being wrong isn't racist.

Every white person is a colonizer? Who says?

BLM doesn't have leaders the way Antifa is just an idea.

BLM and their CRT, that's who.

BLM doesn't have leaders - if I'm wrong it should be easy to prove. But the fact is, they don't need one. BLM is like remember the Alamo. Its a rallying call.

Antifa is just an idea - that's true too. There may be local chapters that form, but you should look up some of the investigations that have gone into them.

They are made up of people who are so strongly anti-authoritarian and poster children for "authority issues". Many of them are anarchists and aren't the types to play well together.

Okay, but was she? Anyone saying that about blacks would be cancelled right away.

I don't know the current status, but blm was started by, as Jesse Lee Peterson says who interviewed them, 'radical Marxist fat black lesbiannnnns'

You're describing more the people who agree that black lives matter and support all lives rather then the organisation itself, which is cancer.

And Henry Ford was an anti-Semite. Just because the founders were something doesn't necessarily mean that's what the organization is about. Movements have a tendency to outgrow their founders.

Was she removed...I'm not sure that's something BLM can do. Anymore than the Republican party can declare someone not a republican. That said...this is pretty much the only thing I see from her. I'm guessing she was chased off of social media.

BLM is not a cancer. All lives obviously matter, BLM is intended to flag the fact that Black lives are given less value than others.

Actually, blm does. A US blm leader just bought a million dollar house or two, off the donations to the organisation.

Pic related is a blm leader slag from Canada. Totally not anti white black supremacy, right?

Critical race theory.

And a casual glance at Twitter has people condemning her.

"Yusra K Ali needs to removed from #BlackLivesMatter

Racism & antisemitism have 0 place .esp when African Americans (where the movement started.. ) are attempting to change issues from 400 yrs back

She's not even from here.. (USA) and yet feels the need to rep AAs w/ Eugenics"

Leadership... So, I was wrong, at least in part. It looks like there is national 'leadership', though that is somewhat predictably limited to money and being a spokesperson. There isn't anyone giving marching orders at the top.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/black-lives-matter-organization-biden-444097

From the beginning, Black Lives Matter was a grassroots effort, born in the streets with no central hierarchy. The idea: to keep power concentrated in the hands of its members, the people.

That’s changing. After a summer of protests that made Black Lives Matter a household name, those atop the movement are making a series of moves to alter its power structure: organizing a political action committee, forming corporate partnerships, adding a third organizing arm and demanding an audience with President-elect Joe Biden.

The moves have triggered mutiny in the ranks.

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But I strongly disagree on BLM and Antifa having no leaders.

Then who are they? How do I get in contact with them? yeah, usually I just go back and reply to an earlier message.

Hahaha blm isn't against the family structure. Dude, you were doing so well.

I have no idea what you are talking about or what BLM has to do with the family structure one way or the other.

Yeah but these people get away with it today, while purporting to be anti racist.

Anyway, think we're at an impasse but enjoyable debate anyway. I just think there's a difference between casual supporters and those angling for power, through political means, Soros funding and mass donations that call for the abolition of the family and other Marxist garbage.

abolition of the family and other Marxist garbage - not a thing

Okay, you are ignorant about that. No worries, I don't think you're lying. You just don't know. I don't know about a ton of things. But the official blm spokespeople shat on the family structure. Sorry, you're unaware.

I think I found mention of what you were talking about, but it was deleted.

It isn't a stated goal even if someone said it; it doesn't concern me.

I don't disagree with you. At the same time, there is definitely something significant about her being shot by black men (as reported by CNN, of all outlets!). Lumping all whites people together doesn't work either.

You could argue irony I suppose. But I still say it requires an adversarial view. *Someone on her side shot her, isn't that hilarious? Jokes on her.*

And the gun control piece is weak. Lack of gun control isn't going to mean she would have been armed, and even if she were it doesn't guarantee a change of outcome.

It's significant because these blm leaders make it out like whites are hunting them down while in reality 90% of blacks in America are killed by other blacks. So maybe she'll address that from here on out... Naw, she'll still blame whites for all her problems.

I doubt she will do any of that, being dead and all.

That isn't what BLM is about. That isn't what they are saying. They literally only show up and protest when a police officer kills a black person in a way that seems like an abuse of power.

Yes, they've been wrong on occasion. Yes there are extremists. BLM is a freaking hashtag. Anyone can use it.

For a moment ignore whether you think their cause is just and admit that the people who support BLM believe it is just. People act on what they believe. People stormed the capitol because they believed an election was being stolen (I think they are wrong), BLM things that a minority is being denied justice. Ignoring them and demonizing them is only going to drive more people to extremes. So at least for a moment, ignore the people who are against BLM tagging the extremists, and ignore the extremists for a minute and listen to the voices of the vast majority. Because the reason we are here is because of them. Most things that can be done to address potential racial disparity in justice are for the good. Body cams, more transparency, better training of law enforcement...all of these things should make policing better whether the complaint is real or not.

90% - The black on black crime thing is an attempt to dismiss and say that "you don't value your own lives, why should we", but almost all homicides are within race. In 2018, the FBI reported that 81% of white victims were killed by white offenders, and 89% of Black victims were killed by Black offenders. That number is fairly consistent year to year.

Did she die? A shame, yet seeing that she tweeted that whites will be her slaves, I'll refrain from shedding a tear.

They never say anything when it's a black cop killing a black suspect. Or in major cities with the rash of black on black violence.

They showed up for months on end to protest for Floyd. Did looting stores do anything for justice? Burning buildings? How'd defunding the police work out?

No, it's not. It's to point out that their victim narrative gaslighting is bs. The biggest threat to a black person is another black person. As you say, that's the case with whites and Hispanics as well. But it defeats the blm narrative that blacks are being gunned down in the streets by vengeful whites ad nauseam. And it raises the question if they really do think blm, or just when killed by a white cop.

But once again, I'm addressing the organisation and hardcore activists.

Are we still talking about the girl from the meme? Because as it states -shot and killed.

Never say anything when its a black cop/suspect - well they don't march for all black people shot by cops anyway. Usually it has to look like excessive force. If there is a case that looks like they should have marched and didn't...then yes, that would be hypocrisy.

Did rioting help? Honestly? Maybe. I know I'm supposed to say no, but realistically it might have. The next time a DA is weighing whether to press charges against a cop in a similar situation, maybe he'll be more likely to let a jury decide. Maybe a city deciding whether de-escalation training is too expensive will decide it isn't in light of the damage done. I think the energy is that they've tried peaceful protests. They tried to draw attention, and nothing. At this point we all know what will happen if charges aren't pressed on arrest cops who break public trust. I think non-violent protests are more effective myself, but I wasn't asked.

As far as defund the police - too early to tell. It means different things to different people for one thing. I know the line is that crime went up in all the cities that cut budgets...but take another look. Crime went up across the board last year, not just those cities. Baltimore was one of the only large cities where it didn't go up and I believe they cut their police budget.

The biggest threat - not the point. In 2020 457 white and 241 black people were shot and killed by police. Black people are 2.5% more likely to be shot and killed by police. If the ratios had been even then it should have been 1142 white people or 96 black people. Pointing out that there are other threats is misdirection.

You really don't get what BLM is about. I can't decide if that is intentional or indoctrination.
Whether George Floyd was a good person doesn't matter. Whether Chauvin was acting on racism or was just a shit cop doesn't matter. The real issue is that the DA wasn't going to file charges - if a bad cop kills a black man it apparently isn't something that needs to go to court. Even with it on video. That attitude and underlying assumption that the police officer was somehow justified is the issue.

Naw, shot but not killed.

lol all their martyrs were resisting arrest. I saw actual cases where even I thought was excessive, yet they never were singled out. I don't deny cops screw up. And when they do, hold them to account.

So, President Biden weighing in on a case as it was being decided was a good thing? Has that ever actually been done before?

Defending defund the police. Yet every place it happened backtracked. Really. Don't even. Other hills...

You aren't factoring in how 13% commits approximately 50% of violent crime. No doubt they will come in conflict more often with police.

Riiight. Chauvin was arrested within days. Give me a break.

Trump recommended the death penalty and sending a guy to Guantanamo Bay prior to the trial starting he suggested a treason conviction and execution for Bowe Bergdahl. So yes, several Presidents have done so.

Have they backtracked? Not surprising. Knee jerk reactions are often a mistake. Somebody will take the time to plan it out and we'll see if the suggestion of paying more into social programs instead of police actually works.

Cops held accountable - that's just funny. The cop who shot Philando Castile (who wasn't resisting arrest) was found innocent. I think the cops who lied to get a search warrant on Breonna Taylor are still free. I could find plenty of others.

The DA announced there might not be charges; rioting started; he was arrested.

I thought that was the way it works,.. you know, all white people are inherently racist.

You thought wrong. That is a narrative meant to further divide us. The people susceptible to it are the ones who lump people together.

When you lump people together you end up assuming other people are attacking the same way. Its weird to me that Republicans' never seem to attack Democrats individually, its always a group condemnation. In assuming that others do the same thing, you can't accept criticism of anyone who is part of a group you belong to.

Its why we don't see talking about America's mistakes as attacking it. We can love the good and talk about the bad with no hypocrisy. There can be bad Americans and good Americans. Pointing out a bad cop is not an attack on all cops. It honestly weirded me out when I realized that not everyone is like that, but here we are.

Sorry you didn't pick up on the sarcasm. Would've saved you some typing.

Ah well. I type fast.