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4 ups, 3y,
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Don't forget the Sean Penn's and Oliver stones of the world and their praises either.
4 ups, 3y,
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How could I have forget the driving forces behind movement of cattle in that direction, yes!
4 ups, 3y,
1 reply
You didn't, you just needed reminding.
3 ups, 3y
lol
0 ups, 3y,
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Because war is something that never happens in Venezuela, right? This is the propaganda you're trying to shovel here? Why don't you list all the wars that Venezuela's had since the 1800's instead of trying to twist their history to suit your butthurt Drumpfian agenda. Here, this is just since the late 40's:

Venezuelan Military Revolt (Oct. 18, 1945)-A military coup brought a Liberal government into power.

Venezuelan Military Revolt (Nov. 24, 1948)-A military coup led by Colonel Carlos Delgado Chalbaud, overthrew the Liberal governement of the Acción Democrática (AD) political party and restored Conservative rule followed by a repressive military dictatorship.

Venezuelan Liberal Revolt (Oct. 13, 1951)-Attempted rebellion by the Acción Democrática (AD), the party of the elected government overthrown by the military junta in November of 1948.

Venezuelan Military Revolt (Jan. 1-23, 1958)-A military rebellion ousted dictatorial President Marcos Perez Jimenez. Jimenez fled the country.

Venezuelan Communist Insurgency (1960-1965)-Low-level Communist insurgency.

Venezuelan Military Uprising (June 26, 1961)-A military revolt against the government failed.

Venezuelan Military Uprising (May 4-5, 1962)-A military revolt against the government failed.

Venezuelan Military Uprising (June 4, 1962)-A military revolt against the government failed.

Venezuelan Military Coup Attempt (February, 1992)-A military revolt led by military officer Hugo Chavez against the government failed.

Venezuelan Military Coup Attempt (November, 1992)-A military revolt against the government failed.

Venezuelan Coup Attempt (April, 2002)-An attempted coup against President Hugo Chavez failed.

Venezuela-Colombia Conflict (December, 2009)

Venezuelan Political Conflict (2014-Present)-Maduro's continued socialist economic policies provoked widespread protests, resulting in civilian deaths. In the 2018 presidential election, the incumbent Maduro won with 67.8% of the vote. Several foreign governments (Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Brazil, Canada, Germany, France and the United States), along with the Venezuelan opposition, claimed the results were fraudulent, and challenged legitimacy of the Maduro presidency. The opposition claimed that Juan Guaidó was the legitimate president. Maduro's foreign allies, including Cuba, China, Russia, Turkey, and Iran continue to recognize Maduro as president.

https://historyguy.com/wars_of_venezuela.htm
1 up, 3y,
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Looks like their problem has been communism and its slightly diluted form.

Although hasn't the CIA and it's earlier equivalence fomented most of the political trouble throughout STH America since at least 1945?

But regardless to that. Your suggestion to list all the wars of Venezuela bears little relevance to the Biden administration and the meme's content. The Biden Admin is attempting to skip through the often decades long "struggle" part of pushing socialism/communism upon an un-wanting population. The meme is highlighting the fact that the actual change happened within a generation.

Which country where socialism or communism has been pushed upon them actually wanted it organically? All as far as I can tell were manipulated into it as an alternative to whatever system was predominant. Whether it is forced upon peoples down the barrel of a gun or whether they sell it to the people through events like you describe as having happened in Venezuela. i.e many years of internal strife and conflict. The point is that once you look one layer lower than the glossy surface of socialism you realize it isn't what it's cracked up to be. And the further point the meme would seem to be making is that the Biden admin would appear to be attempting to push socialism upon America.
Are they not?
Biden is helping fulfill globalist plans, as in Agenda 2030 stuff. He's a puppet in a purer sense than most presidents because the senility is all too real.
2 ups, 3y,
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The meme says "it only took one generation of progressive leadership to plunge this country into civil war." My response is when were they not engaged in some type of civil war? From the looks of it, their military keeps trying to overthrow the government. You're comparing a country that's always been embroiled in civil unrest, going back to the 1800's, to a country that didn't have a civil war in over 200 years until Trump came along and decided to try to seize power when he lost the election.

Whatever becomes of Biden's policies, only time will tell. It's only been a few months. One thing we know for sure, is that we've already had socialism in this country for decades and that's not what plunged us into civil war on January 6.
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4 ups, 3y
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5 ups, 3y,
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"Correct, it wasn't properly implemented!"
4 ups, 3y,
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Pray tell, where in history was it “ properly” implemented?
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6 ups, 3y
I was being sarcastic..attempted to convey it via the quotes. My bad.

It never has been, and never will be, properly implemented.
3 ups, 3y,
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No pure form of any economic theory/discipline can be "properly implemented"
4 ups, 3y,
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Has communism been implemented to any degree of success?
1 up, 3y,
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Has Capitalism?
4 ups, 3y,
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Yes
1 up, 3y,
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In it's pure form? Where?
3 ups, 3y,
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Has capitalism ever been implemented in its pure form? Where?
0 ups, 3y,
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That's what I'm asking...
2 ups, 3y,
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Nope, but the US capitalism system has been successful.
0 ups, 3y
USA is not a pure capitalist society.
2 ups, 3y,
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United States is a great example of successful Capitalist where you want to accept it or not. Shit first country to put someone in the moon. You sure got some balls to discredit the many accomplishments United States has been having under capitalism.
1 up, 3y,
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If you do not like it move, plenty of non Capitalist countries elsewhere.
1 up, 3y,
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I'm fine here in the USA has the closest balance of socialism and capitalism that I like. :)
0 ups, 3y
But you are aware that the reason why USA has been successful is because of their Capitalist market, the very same the left is trying to destroy?
0 ups, 3y
USA has been successful due to its increased socialist programs. Before, we had child labor, for example. People were worked unreasonable hours for unreasonable pay. Progressive economic politics which are leftist policies. Other countries are begining to outperform the US as their base education is higher due to free college provided by the government. Free market only gets a country so far, just ask Haiti
0 ups, 3y,
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But lets pretend that the US didn't impose numerous sanctions on Venezuela, then we'll blame the socialism boogeyman
0 ups, 3y
I think you need to do your research Cerebrophage. Maybe take a good vacation to Florida and ask the people from Cuba and Venezuela living there no how really it is. I am sure they have some really good life lessons to share with you, something you wont get from your college professors. You know what I find funny, it is someone like you, who has not been anywhere and has not experienced pure socialism like I have, trying to tell me how it is. And when people like you can't argue with me, because my life experience living in Cuba does not mean shit to you, then you go cussing me and calling me names. Look I am not gonna change your mind, the brainwashing is deep. Face the consequences and go crying on someone's shoulders later on when it is affecting your life style.
0 ups, 3y,
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I think you need to do your research Cerebrophage. Maybe take a good vacation to Florida and ask the people from Cuba and Venezuela living there no how really it is.
>> you can be from a country and still be a misinformed idiot. Just look at any Trump supporter. Not saying you are, just starting facts.

I am sure they have some really good life lessons to share with you, something you wont get from your college professors.
>> you make the error of assumption.

You know what I find funny, it is someone like you, who has not been anywhere and has not experienced pure socialism like I have, trying to tell me how it is.
>> I find it funny that you're blaming it purely on politics and absolutism not considering any other factors that contributed to the state Venezuela is. Which i would like to refer to another meme i made which states no pure form of any economic practice has ever been and is currently successful. You need a combination of both.

And when people like you can't argue with me, because my life experience living in Cuba does not mean shit to you, then you go cussing me and calling me names.
>> so number one, that's kinda snow flakey. Number two, when have I cussed you out and called you names?

Look I am not gonna change your mind, the brainwashing is deep.
>> that much is clear.
Face the consequences and go crying on someone's shoulders later on when it is affecting your life style.
>> that won't happen lol
0 ups, 3y,
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I am just wasting my time here with you. Keep believing what suits you go cry at someone else shoulders later and go saying no one told you so.
0 ups, 3y
Translation
0 ups, 3y
United States is not pure capitalism. Your argument is invalid
0 ups, 3y,
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0 ups, 3y,
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It sure did kick our Capitalist ass, and it is already ruining USA, not that you care anyways because you are from Canada right?
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0 ups, 3y
Wonder where you got your education. Or who cleaned up your state parks. Or who funds your wars.
0 ups, 3y
well, glad you did not argued that you do not care about ruining USA, your only concern was me asking you in you were Canadian. Motives are clear to me PinkPixie.
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2 ups, 3y,
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Taiwan.
0 ups, 3y
Taiwan has social welfare programs for those in poverty. Another example of a socialist program would be their education system which spans from nursery school to university. So no, Taiwan is not pure capitalism.
2 ups, 3y
“USA is not a pure capitalist society”
Exactly
0 ups, 3y,
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How are you defining success?
3 ups, 3y,
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You dodge the question of communism by switching to its hated enemy instead?
0 ups, 3y,
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Its not a dodge as its relevant to my statement to which you challenged by bringing up one very specific facet of what my statement says. Communism in the context of his conversation is just as relevant as capitalism when challenging my statement. So, no, the dodge is yours.
1 up, 3y,
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You go first then.
0 ups, 3y,
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Go first what? Your question is a red herring to my statement. You have yet to make a counter claim
0 ups, 3y,
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All systems have not failed.
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0 ups, 3y
Try to avoid tu quoque. The difference between you and I, is that I circle back to stay on topic. You circle back to try and force the conversation to your red herring.

So if you disagree, give some examples. Show me an economic theory or discipline which has been practiced in its pure form that has not failed.

By the way, excellent use of a meme depicting a woman who doesn't fall for the barrage of right wing media gotcha questions.
0 ups, 3y,
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Give your answer to communism’s success anywhere.
0 ups, 3y
Doubling down in communism I see, almost as if you have some derangement syndrome for it. You can't speak about anything else. To answer your question, I will answer in the same fashion you're trying to lead this discussion, by repeating my statement: no pure economic theory or discipline has ever succeeded.

I welcome you to make a counter claim instead of agreeing on one facet which is politically motivated by the false assertion that the left wing wants communism.

Until then, I refuse to follow your red herring rabbit hole which is a loaded question as the definition of success is subjective to the interpreter.
2 ups, 3y,
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Pol Pot implemented it perfectly.
2 ups, 3y,
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What or where is that?
3 ups, 3y,
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Philippines. Pol Pot is a murderer. Surprise.
4 ups, 3y,
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Cambodia. My bad.
2 ups, 3y
Now I recall the name. 1960s?
2 ups, 3y
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