Imgflip liberals are miserable, unfunny and insufferable.

A picture is worth 1000 words. Well done, upvoted.

But, but..... orange man bad!

Oh boy we got a libtard here in the comments

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how many did you win 0 because you have no facts or evidence

I wont them all with facts and logic. Something you know nothing about, libtard

And all their alt accounts

We are offended by this statement.
:P

Do you prefer "delicate flower" or "sensitive baby"?

If it makes you any happier, I can call you a clueless braindead Leftist lemming.
Feel better, pal? Good. 😎

If it makes you happier but I'm not sure why it does.

Equally true

Yes I see the diarrhea of Libturds about once a week. I comment on a few to keep them motivated and for entertainment on who can be the most ignorant! The stupidity is amazing in Politics POO!

He's a 'nucular' scientist.

lol

haha

the attack on gaza was an act of war :)

The attack on Gaza was caused by the Rockets being launched into Israeli Cities FROM Gaza. They, the Terrorists, not the Palestinians, struck first.

What are ya anti semitic ya racist

Sorry this response is going to show up in your inbox, Octavia because this is not directed at you but I will never ever understand the criticism of Israel from the left.

They are a small country surrounded on 3 sides by a religion that has vowed the exterminate every last Jew on the planet. Yeah, every country makes mistakes, just like every person makes mistakes. No one is perfect but to constantly beat up on Israel, especially for defending themselves is just bizarre to me.

"No one is perfect but to constantly beat up on Israel, especially for defending themselves is just bizarre to me."

Right there is an illustration of your "defending themselves"

Not sure who constantly beats up on Israel, because no other country on Earth gets away with what they do, other than Russia and China and Mynamar, and those folks have ROOTS in their respective countries that go farther back than just their grandparents.

"I will never ever understand the criticism of Israel from the left."

That's a funny statement, given that from the Protocols of Zion, to the USSR, to Hitler, to the Jim Crow South, to the Alt Right, and whatever other constipated Conservative movements to strike the fancy of the retro masses, the "Left" has been called a creation of Zionism, a tool for this world domination that's going to happen someday reeeeeeeal soon but just not quite yet today. The latest fad date of the calender being the "Great Reset" which will usher in Socialism on a Globalist scale both of which are dog whistles signifying - you guessed it - that eternal bogeyman, Zionism.

"They are a small country surrounded on 3 sides by a religion that has vowed the exterminate every last Jew on the planet."

Israel is not located in Germany or Europe, so no.

"Yeah, every country makes mistakes, just like every person makes mistakes."

There's a crap ton of people - many dead - who might hesitate calling what Israel has continuously, repeatedly, and deliberately done to them since 1948 merely "mistakes." Now THAT'S bizarre.

Go figure.

"Yeah, every country makes mistakes"

yup. just like i spilt some water over the edge of a table, israel spilt some missiles over the edge of the israeli-gaza border. every country makes mistakes.

"They are a small country surrounded on 3 sides by a religion that has vowed the exterminate every last Jew on the planet"

it's basically a box for radical christians in charge of our foreign policy to stuff jews inside.

"No one is perfect but to constantly beat up on Israel, especially for defending themselves is just bizarre to me"

wait 'til you learn how we spend billions in taxpayer money defending and providing free cash to a country with a never-ending century-old conflict with decades of war and bloodshed as a result.

off topic, but it was kind of woodrow wilson's fault that we're in the middle east since he decided it was better for america to be this peaceful, holier-than-thou nation that no one would dare pick on, but could mediate peace. look how that turned out in wwi. now here we are spending more money on organizing the peace of never-ending wars, bringing our troops in the process, making more arabs hate jews and americans; all that is given more money than our infrastructure, healthcare, police reform, and/or education.

a lot of it has to do with the military industrial complex, from which so many of our senators and previous presidents have had their pockets filled with cash. lobbying our politicians -- all of them so we can't vote them out -- to keep our boots in the sand.

and every time anyone criticizes american-israeli relations and/or the amount of money it requires, they're simply silenced and called "anti-semitic" because, conveniently for the zionist movement, a guy named hitler once existed. anytime anyone criticizes israeli-orchestrated war crimes, zionists can happily point to a guy with a 'tache and say "omg you hate war crimes? well, these ones are done by a nation which has judaism as a state religion, and jews weren't allowed to commit war crimes in auschwitz. you're literally hitler." (even though hitler literally died 3 years before israel was created)

Whatever Israel does to protect themselves is okay by me. Even if they make mistakes. That same religion that has it in their sacred texts to exterminate Jews want to exterminate everyone else. They are a convert or die religion.

If that religion was a normal religion then there would be absolutely no problems between Israel and the surrounding countries. The Jews do not have a convert or die policy in their religion. They don't even have a proselytizing policy in their religion. They accept converts but they do not seek them out.

I don't know how much money we send Israel but I know that our government wastes tons of money everywhere. Our government looks at the taxpayer as a blank check with an endless supply of cash in the bank account. I am not using that as a justification for giving Israel or any other nation money but if our government is going to waste money it is better to give it to a country that is our ally and not to those who hate us. But I would much rather not waste any money at all. We seriously need to just stop spending altogether. It has gotten to the point where we just throw trillions around like it is pennies. We are going to suffer sooner or later for that.

Until Islam reforms itself into a religion that respects the rights of others and throws out the commandments to murder others then Israel can do whatever they want to defend themselves from these monsters. I typically very much dislike anyone who would very happily kill me, you and everyone we know and love.

Which is why those of that religion forgot to exterminate the Mizrahi who have been in the region since before there was anyone called "Hebrew" and Sephardim who escaped to there when the Catholic Spanish tried to make them disappear like the rest of Europe has been trying for 2000 years?

Mizrahi and Sephardics are treated like 2nd classes citizens in Israel. Which is better than Ethiopian Jews who occupy the bottom rung and Zimbabwe Lemba who are excluded from the 'Jewish Homeland' despite having a greater frequency of the Cohen Y Chromosome than the Ashkenazis.
In fact, many Askenazis claim the Ethiopians are merely converts, not being really Jewish on account of not having been chased around Europe for the last 2000 years and thus not looking like 'true' Jews do. Jews from Europe, that is. Germanic/Eastern European looking Jews.

There's that irony, and the one which the only people using their religious texts to wipe Jews out are Jews themselves, as it is Rabbis who determine whether non-European Jews are Jews.

Israel is the biggest foreign (they are NOT the 51st and #1 US State) recipient of US aid.
They, like all other countries, should be cut off. The German Wermacht is dead, the USSR is over, their neighbors are busy being our proxies against each other and themselves.
If they, or any other country, can't stand on their own legs, then maybe we should return the land to the brutally oppressed people they stole it from.

And just like that, turmoil centered around invaders and occupiers that began seven decades ago ends.
Strange how math works.

"Whatever Israel does to protect themselves is okay by me."

usually they're attacking other nations rather than protecting themselves, hence the suez canal crisis (the one that didn't happen in the last few weeks) and the U.S.S. liberty.

"I am not using that as a justification for giving Israel or any other nation money but if our government is going to waste money it is better to give it to a country that is our ally and not to those who hate us"

i'd rather spend it on improvements in america

After both Israel and the US conducted and investigation it was found that the USS Liberty was mistake for an Egyptian ship. I don't know if that is just some sort of cover up or not but this is not uncommon in war. Usually it is on a smaller scale, like a platoon being mistaken as the enemy instead of a big Naval cruiser.

Instead of spending that money anywhere, give it back to the people the government stole it from. They worked for it and earned and all the government did was steal it.

Yeah I have never understood the complete hatred overall of the Jewish religion and people. They are simply the most prosecuted on the planet strange too because they were chosen by Jesus as important. Really weird how much religion can turn into just plain out evil sometimes. Not the jewish religion either the ones that want to hurt them, I mean look at how far Germany took it my goodness. Oh yeah lets forget that happened uh no.....never forget or history repeats itself.

Exactly. As bad as the Jews have had in throughout history many Jews today are looking at what is happening to the Christians around the world, and even in this country, and telling us that we are getting worse than them now. I still thing the Jews are getting it worse. No country or group of people has murdered Christians in the millions.... yet. Unless you include the Christian Russians and Ukrainians that Lenin and Stalin killed. However, they were all killed just because they were Christians. Jews were killed just because they were Jews.

Muslims, ever since the beginning of their religion have been terrorizing Israel and Europe for centuries. They murdered in the hundreds of thousands of Christians and Jews but even they cannot hold a candle to what Hitler did.

They've kind of killed more than one waitor.

Anyone see my opuses?

Octavia I think we hit a rare moment when we agree on something. I didn't know or forgot about the Munich Olympic murders. But when I say that all nations make mistakes these are the kind of mistakes they make. Our nation has made horrible mistakes and still does. We decimated the native American population. We used to practice slavery. And for the last 50 years it is legal to murder your unborn baby.

But even with all of that most other countries, good or bad, have done very similar kinds of horrors. Many have done far worse than us and many still do. Muslims taught us how to enslave Africans and long after we stopped they continue doing it today.

There are more sex slaves in the world than all of the African slaves ever brought to North, Central and South America (we only got about 25% of the African slave trade).

But it like I said, governments, all governments, are only good at three things; enslaving, stealing and killing. Everything else they suck at.

And unborn baby at any stage after insemination is human life. It is living and it is human. It is not a frog.

Teaching us how to enslave Africans was just a figure of speech. It isn't like they held classes on it or anything but then again maybe they did, I don't know. Europeans just noticed what the Muslims were doing and decided they would jump on that bandwagon. And no, we would not have done it anyway.

Christianity does most definitely prohibit slavery. There are references in the Bible that tells slaves to be good slaves but that is only because slavery was an integral part of society back then. Every culture had slaves. Some were brutal and some were more like indentured servants where they could work off some sort of debt.

Those passages should be looked at today in an employer/employee relationship instead of a slave/slave master relationship.

Most of the founding fathers vehemently opposed slavery. Some founders owned slaves but realized it was wrong only after owning slaves. Our founding documents, common law and just about everything that created this nation relied very heavily on Christianity and the Bible. We didn't create a Christian nation, it is secular but there is no denying the heavy Christian influence on everything. All you have to do is compare the early writings with the Bible or with sermons that had been delivered going all the back to men like Martin Luther and William Tyndale.

It is only in the last century that we began to re-write history from an more atheistic view point and cut off anything that showed any resemblance to religion. Because of that we now have generations of people who see absolutely no correlation at all between this nation and Christianity. But like with everything, you have to go to the original sources to find the truth. If you just go to some Progressive historian you have done yourself a huge disservice and you won't have leaned the truth. Trust nothing but the original sources and open your mind to the possibility that what you have been taught in college and in high school may be flat out wrong.

re: Abbey's Luke 6:31 -

"Do unto others as you would have your master do unto you"

First time I heard it put that way, hahaha

"And if you think that verse applies to slavery, then it would also have to apply to things like same-sex marriage. If a conservative Christian wouldn't want to be denied the right to marry who they want, then a same-sex couple shouldn't be denied that right, either. Oh, and that would apply to abortion as well. If you don't want someone else telling you what you can or can't do with your own body, then you can't tell pregnant women what they can or can't do with their body."

Ironic that those who argue the birth of an unborn child should not be subject to the will of the mother tend to argue that the choices of individuals wishing to seek their own path or manner to fulfill it as they see fit should be subject to the will of those who claim an established status quo gives them the authority to deny them their individuality when it comes to whom they wish to share their lives with or how.

How can you love your neighbor if you have enslaved them? You cannot claim ownership of another person and call that love. You cannot force someone to work for you with or without compensation, that is also not love. You cannot steal the products of another person's labor and call that love.

No, the Bible does not say anywhere "Thou shalt not own another person". But clearly the commandments would have to make the average person with a brain realized that slavery is wrong.

I don't believe in forcing the labor of another person for your own gain. That type of slavery is completely unacceptable and evil.

"Not according to the Bible. The Bible makes it clear that there were other types of slavery such as buying and selling people as property and forcing captured soldiers to be your slaves and forcing captured women to marry you."

That's Old Testament. I was clear when I said "at the time of Jesus in Israel".

"Can you do me a favor? Can you name any state in the United States where it's completely legal for an employer to physically beat their employee as long as they don't die right away?"

Can you do me a favor and show me where slaves were regularly beaten all of the time? At the very worst a slave was treated like any other farm animal. If you beat a horse or mule so badly that it cannot perform then you lose a days work.

If you beat any animal or slave too much they lose all motivation to perform.

Most slaves were NOT beaten regularly.

BTW.... Stop putting me in a position where it sounds like I am defending slavery. I am not. I am defending the truth, not slavery. Slavery is one of the greatest evils ever committed.

"I didn't say it wasn't alive and I didn't say it wasn't human. But it's not a baby at the earliest stages"

There are several stages of a human life from zygote to senor citizen. It is human life at all stages. Picking and choosing at what stage a human life is of no value is evil. But that is what you can expect from a eugenicist and a Socialist. The life of the individual is expendable at any stage and their life only has value when it has been decided it has value by someone else.

The left is all too willing to go further and further down that road and I am not willing to even get on that road. Human life at any stage far more important than anyone can put a value on. A zygote may not be able to speak for him or herself but that won't always be the case. The potential a zygote has in society is immeasurable. Killing the zygote is no different than killing you or me.

"Show me the chapter and verse where slavery is 100% prohibited. And I mean 100% prohibited."

Luke 6:31:
"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."

Mark 12:30 - 31:
"And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

Much of what was slavery back then was not like what happened in America. In fact what happened in America was not always slavery. Many times people would voluntarily enter into servitude to pay off a debt. A lot of Europeans indentured themselves so that they could come to America.

Roman slaves were pretty much all indentured servants. And just like in the early history of this country people would voluntarily enter into servitude to pay off a debt.

That was the kind of slavery that existed at the time of Jesus in Israel. That is why I said that verses in the Bible that talk about slavery should be looked at as a employer/employee relationship because that is more similar to the type of relationship that slaves had back then.

Not like they were in a rush either, and that was only to end the trade, as the practice still continued throughout the Empire.

What you're saying is so fantastical, it goes beyong revisionist or retroffiting for the sake of a bogus narrative born out of the usual nonsense political agenda.

Even in the rare instance when you are saying something factual (for instance, in regards to unborn humans being, by definition and in accordance to basic biology, human) you have to muck it up by contorting it to suit partisan hack propaganda.

For self-descibed 'pro-lifers,' the life of the individual is expendable at any stage past 9 months of pregnancy and til they have value as cannon fodder when old enough to serve in the military. Between that it's on its own for medical assistance if needed, as well as education, food security, housing, access to jobs, right to vote, etc.

Likewise with prisoners on death row and those our soldiers risk their own lives to kill in wars whose causes and aims are not defensive. Or, as you pointed out the other day, those non-Jews who get in the way of Israeli bulldozers.

Those are the views of the Conservative, one that harkens back to Feudalism - the minions pleased with their place as serfs at the bottom and their value as nothing more than drones in hopes that in a few short generations a select few might reach the vaulted level of their lords.

Human slaves, of course, once occupied a rung lower than the peasants.

Your assertion that slavery in antiquity was nothing more than voluntary indentured servitude to pay off debt is so utterly beyong reality, one wonders if you're kidding.
Most slaves then were captured in wars or kidnapped from neighboring enemies. That includes the Hebrews, who also sold their own daughters to be sex slaves, something which wasn't intended to be a temporary position, unless the owner no longer felt she was worth keeping and thus had to release her to be free in accordance to law. As with Rome, Greece, Iran, Babylon, Assyria, Sumeria, Egypt, etc, slaves could be also born into slavery, providing that's what their parents were.

As for indentured servants sent to the colonies, transport to here was an expensive and risky proposition, as well as the added cost of maintaining them. Not many Brits were that indebted to anyone in America to warrant the need in the first place.
Indentured servants in the colonies were penal colonists, convicts, criminal class throways disposed of in a land not....

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Indentured servants in the colonies were penal colonists, convicts, criminal class throways disposed of to a land not many thought worth the risk to go to simply to do ardous labor others didn't want to do. Two birds/One stone - get rid of the unwanted, and get them to do the work nobody wanted to do.

As for this vote against slavery prior to declaring independence business, I've not been able to find anything on it.
In fact, concessions were made to please slave owning states so that they may ratify the Constitution. That IS why the Founders never put an end to it, as if that needed to be pointed out.
After all, anyone who opposed slavery was free to free their slaves, whether it be slave owning Founding Fathers or slave holding States.

The various rights they bestowed were initially only to Protestant males of British, Germanic, and Nordic stock who were monied land owners.

As for Christianity prohibiting slavery, from the preachings of Jesus to the corruption from Saul/Paul, slaves were told to keep the faith and be obedient, as their reward shall come later from the Lord...
Slave owners in the colonies used Christianity as justification for their 'inalienable right' to maintain the practice.

"I don't know that most of them opposed slavery, I'm sure some of them did. But if they realized it was wrong, they should have immediately released their slaves, but they didn't."

It was the majority. When we were about to go to war against England a vote was taken by state if slavery should be abolished or not. All but two states, Georgia and (I think) Virginia, voted against slavery.

It was very hard to make the case against England for freedom if you, yourself, were opposed to the freedom of slaves.

But because we were about to go war with England we had to have the support of all 13 colonies. As it was we only had about 10% support of all of the colonists living here in going to war with England. There were a lot of colonists who were loyalists. After it looked liked we were on the winning side we got up to about 25% support.

There were two clauses added to the Constitution to discourage slavery. One was the ending of importing slaves 20 years and the discounting of counting slaves as 3/5th of a vote. Causing slave owners not to have as strong of a vote. Of course when you tell people to today that the 3/5th clause was about the slave owners voting power they look at you funny. People are taught today that the Constitution look at slaves as just 3/5ths of a person but that was never what it was about. That is just how screwed up the left has destroyed our history.

There is freedom of religion in Iran (although many Jews have been getting harrassed, accused of spying for Israel. Bahis aren't regarded too fondly either, the religion looked at as a British creation to gain influence back in the day).

For example Christians - many of them Armenians who sought refuge there during Turkish persecution (Iran has more of that diaspora living there than any other country) and Jews are allowed to purchase, make, and drink wine, forbidden to Muslims.

Typical shill, JIDF pretending to be former US Military to the rescue but dodges it when I posted about the USS Liberty and Israel's anti-Semitic treatment of others from the region including non-European Jews.
I didn't even get to bring up how the fledgling state told Sephardim settling there that their children died while being processed when they secretly were being adopted out to Ashkenazis who lost their own in WWII to make up for THEIR sadness or their forced contraception by injection of Ethiopian women.

Since I zipped him up nicely, I'll post this here as you had addressed it as well:

"I think you are overestimating things. What screwed up the middle ages WAS NOT Christianity. It was people calling themselves Christian and ignoring everything Jesus taught. It was a bunch of power hungry people who used the churches as their power base. That is why it is important to note that a lot of the reformers also recognized that the churches had become power hungry. That is part of what they wanted to reform. Tyndale and Luther's bigger complains were the selling of indulgences.

It could have been any religion (except Islam) and the middle ages would have developed pretty much the same. If it was Islam the world would probably be living in a tyrannical theocracy right now."

Growing up where I did, it's odd hearing about this so-called "Reformation," which was just some slight adjustments to accomodate Teutons and Celts (with a couple of exceptions, ie Austria and Ireland) culture and has yet to be noticed by the majority of Christians, namely the over a billion and a half Catholics and Eastern Orthodox that created the religion.

That being said, understanding the corruption and blood soaked cast it lent throughout the world, it's also why Europe isn't an Islamic Mongol zone, having been the unifier that rebuffed the invasions of both.
It's also what kept the spark of Europe going, in terms of identity and economy.
While the rest of Europe dawdled in the wake of the fall of Rome - like NYC today, the engine that kept the region going - tithing money was still being sent to Rome, allowing the Church to amass property and riches.

Meanwhile the Silk Road had the Middle East floating nicely, the center of science, math, the arts, culture, and and economy which together with the Church helped Italy get the engine going, being the hub where that trade ended up on the European end.
China and the rest of Asia was also booming, while Europe rotted in.. tbc

... while Europe rotted in their shadow.

Other than Moorish Spain, that is, home to the the first and only universities in Europe, a well educated and literate society at a time when 99% of the rest of Europe (even kings) was illiterate. They also were advanced in the arts and sciences and agriculture and all that while the rest of Europe had to wait for Italy to recharge them engines.

Then Portugal found ocean routes to Asia that cut out the Silk Road middle men, Spain then followed, then France then England and we get the ascendancy of what is now the modern Western World while the Middle East and the rest of Asia dried up economically and thus everything else that that afforded, as progress and power and leadership is the luxury only afforded to the affluent.

"We have something in this country called the establishment clause which prohibits the government from endorsing or establishing any religion, including Christianity. If you think it's the governments job to endorse religion or tell people what religion they should follow, then you are advocating for a theocracy and you are no supporter of the United States Constitution."

The establishment clause of the First Amendment prohibits the FEDERAL government from endorsing or establishing any religion on a FEDERAL level.
This was to protect the right of state governments to endorse a particular religion should they so choose, as some States did (and still officially do) have a state religion on the books.

This was a measure with the intention of protecting the practice of religion, not prohibit it, as it clearly states.

"I went to public school in Northern California and graduated high school in 2001. My history class didn't teach me the kind of stuff you're talking about"

Most of what I have been talking about I never learned in school. What I was saying is that some of what I was taught in school about history and civics was not factual. It had been altered.

The years after I graduated that information has become more and more tainted until we are at a point now that if there is anything in history that is offensive it is stricken or changed. However, there is a type of history that has crept in that is offensive to the left. That kind of history is embellished to make whites more evil and slaves suffer more.

That is what the 1619 Project is all about. There is no truth to it. It is like Critical Race Theory. The entire purpose of both is to drive a wedge between whites and non-whites that is so huge that it causes a collapse of civility. It is the Marxist divide and conquer strategy.

My nephew is a liberal and he has a history degree and is a teacher. He and I have gone round and round about history and about David Barton as well. He thinks in order for it to be history it needs to pass peer review. And to a certain extent is he is correct but if the peers disagree with the source material then the are about as trustworthy as Snopes or CNN (i.e. not at all). Facts are facts. If George Washington wrote X and you can look at the source document and clearly read, in context, that he said X then no amount of peer reviewed history professors cannot say he meant Y.

There is no historical evidence of any kind that Benjamin Franklin fathered a child out of wedlock. By all reports he was faithful to his wife until the end. However, there was a politician who he ran against who tried to spread a rumor about him fathering a bastard child. It was just dirty politics. Sometime around the later half of the 20th century that politicians accusation made it into history books. Now everyone things that Franklin messed around. Until there is some type of documentation verifying that he did father a bastard child there is no reason to teach a political accusation as history. That is just wrong.

"You don't know what I was taught in high school"

You're right. But I do know what I was taught and what I was taught generally speaking is what most schools taught. I grew up in So. California (the LA area) and went to public schools. I graduated HS in 1976. Depending on when you were in school I may have had a less revisionist history class than you but then maybe not.

Better yet, if you have Amazon Prime go and look for a show called "The True Christian History of America." It starts with the reformation and they trace through the history and documents that were what the founders all knew about and what they forged this nation on.

It is real popular today to try distance the Christianity of our founders from our founders but you really cannot do that without changing history.

You can believe whatever you want but no one should ever change history. Unfortunately your side, especially today, is all about modifying history. Now you have all of them "cancel culture" idiots changing history just to make themselves feel good.

"Yes it's secular. And that's why it's a great as it is. If it was run by Christianity, it would be garbage, like medieval Europe or modern Iran, where freedom of religion is nonexistent. Also, you seem to be ignoring the heavy influence of Enlightenment values on this country as well."

I think you are overestimating things. What screwed up the middle ages WAS NOT Christianity. It was people calling themselves Christian and ignoring everything Jesus taught. It was a bunch of power hungry people who used the churches as their power base. That is why it is important to note that a lot of the reformers also recognized that the churches had become power hungry. That is part of what they wanted to reform. Tyndale and Luther's bigger complains were the selling of indulgences.

It could have been any religion (except Islam) and the middle ages would have developed pretty much the same. If it was Islam the world would probably be living in a tyrannical theocracy right now.

What you need to know is that all of the founders were very devout Christians. Even Jefferson and Paine, who were deists. They were Christian deists. Christianity was taught in our public schools. It was incorporated into Congress. And despite all of that the founders did not want a theocracy. They didn't want one religion to be favored over another and they specifically set the government up to be secular. That is what Christianity should look like. God will not force anyone into heaven so why should mankind operate any differently?

David Barton goes to the original source material. That is what any true historian should do. Nearly every history professor in college ignores the source material and references other history professors and then tells you that this is the correct method of analyzing history.

I know 2 other movies about America, they're called American History X and Birth Of A Nation

"How convenient. So when Christians do bad stuff, you can just say they aren't real Christians, even though they clearly were. If we had a time machine, I would be interested to see what happens next if you went back and told these people that they weren't real Christians."

It is not a convenience, it is a fact. If your actions are the polar opposite of what Jesus taught then how can you call yourself a Christian? You would be living a lie. These people used the churches and the states to gain power and control over other people's lives and claimed they were doing so under God's authority. They murdered, cheated and raped their way into these positions. How can you even call them Christians?

If I had a time machine and went back in time and told those people that they weren't Christians I would be burned at the stake. That is what happened to a lot of the early reformers for the exact same reason.

The Bible was withheld from the common man for centuries for the exact reason that if the common man ever found out that the actions of those in power were the opposite of what Jesus taught they would have a real problem on their hands. And that is what eventually happened. Churches that existed back in the middle ages and early renaissance had to do a complete 180. They are not the same churches as they were when no one knew what Jesus actually said.

"You do realize that during the Middle Ages, a number of Muslim scholars were making tremendous advancements in science and math, right?"

Yes and I also know that algebra is an Arabic word. Muslims figured out how to calculate where Mecca was so that they could bow to it from where ever they were in the world.

Not all Muslims are bad but those who aren't killing every one are not following the Quran. Allah is very specific on Muslims and killing the non-believers.

And don't try to compare the Bible with the Quran. They are not the same. The Bible is a history book, the Quran is a book of commandments. There were a ton of very bad things that were recorded in the Bible that were committed by Jews, Canaanites, Philistines, Babylonians and Romans. Just because bad things were recorded does not mean that we should do those things. Some commandments that God gave the Jews were only for that specific time. God told the Jews to wipe out the Canaanites but that never meant that the Jews were to wipe out all non Jews.

The irony being that to call criticism of Israel ," anti-Semitic," is itself, racist, since Israel is supposed to (officially) be a state, not an exclusive ethno entity.

Just a thought. Semites are descendants of Noah's son Shem. Semites are not just Jews or any of the other 11 tribes of Israel. They are also Arabs, Akkadians and Phoenicians.

The majority of people living in Israel are Jewish and Arabic. All other groups are in a small minority. In a general sense if you are opposed to Israel then you are an anti-Semite. It is only when you get into specifics that you cannot call everyone in Israel a Semite.

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For three days I've posted wall of text facts, and all you can do is basically reiterate what I said in a reply but through a fairytale filter for children? I figured you had blocked me. You didn't even toss in your usual [hiss in hair pull] "you people democrat leftist"

Semites are people linked by a language group. You forgot Sumerarians, Canaanites, and Babylonians, without whom there would never have been any Hebrews or Noah and the rest of those lovely Genesis tales. Egyptians had formally been lumped with them, but their language is more of a mix with different roots, as opposed to a branch. Somalis also have gotten their toes in the door, depending on who you ask.

Opposing Israel's oppresive murderous policies is opposing Israel's oppressive murderous policies. It's not anti-Semitic, especially considering said policies are used against people with a significantly higher degree of 'Semitic' blood than the recent diluted Eastern European imports who claim that race card for themselves.

Again, here, looks like you missed some notifications. Read something and learn:

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Scroll up and down for fun.

It's got to be slightly less boring than the same old battle of the semantics back n forth you've both been having with the other fella. I even included pretty pictures for the reading challenged.
You have my permish to use the quote from the First Amendment meme (which is a repost) and all that went with it for those whose reading comprehension is stuck at the garage for repairs.

I haven't blocked any one on ImgFlip. "You people democrat leftists" are so touchy. I was just explaining who the Semites and somehow you got your panties in a bind.

By the way your definition of what the first amendment means is a little wonky. There is NOTHING in the Constitution or in any founding document about "endorsing" a religion. In fact it is quite the opposite.

George Washington wrote this to the chiefs of the Delaware tribe of native Americans when three Delaware youths were to be trained in our pubic schools, "You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do every thing they can to assist you in this wise intention."

Washington also had also sent "ministers of the Gospel, to reside among the Delaware Indians, and instruct them in the Christian religion".

In addition Christianity was taught in our public schools probably until the early 20th century Progressives infested our nation... you know those "you people democrat leftist".

However, neither Washington or any of the other founding fathers "endorsed" a specific Christian religion as far as I know. They just endorsed a generic Christianity, one that is common in all Christian religions.

You are correct that the Federal government was prohibited from creating a state religion and you are also correct that some states actually did have a state religion.

Somehow the word "endorse" has crept into the discussion of freedom of religion, just like the phrase "freedom of religion" has been replaced with "separation of church and state". But that was the fault of the Supreme Court in 1947's Everson vs Board of Education decision where the pulled a letter written by Thomas Jefferson into the law and completely misinterpreted what Jefferson meant by his "wall of separation" comment. But they had an agenda and there weren't about to let the 1st amendment get in the way. Just like how now "you people democrat leftists" are not about to let the 2nd amendment get in your way.

Now THAT'S the long winded tripe I was expecting.

However, true to form you misrepresented what I said then went on to agree with me as PROOF that what I said must be in err because all you spew is fanfic.

So when I hit your nonsense about me on "endorsing," I skimmed past the rest but did catch the "You're correct therefore you're wrong because democrat leftist" part and at least now I know you're not the other Abbey.

Hey, as long as you get paid for shilling, right?

I was just looking at my notifications, and realized I hadn't even read your first lines either.
Since you went all defensive on Israel, it would seem the touchy one is you, but you're just a shill pretending to be. That you never react to the self-proclaimed neo-Nazis on this site sums it up.

Your ignorance about what is "Semite" was explained to you prior.
tl;dr vers: Ashkenazi are nearly 2000 years away from being Semites, and are thus the least Semitic of the residents of Israel. Even the Lemba exhibit a higher frequency of the Cohen Chromosome than they do, and they're all the way out in Zimbabwe.

Are you nuts??? I despise Nazism in any form (old or neo). And if I am "touchy" in defense of Israel then how on earth can you ever conclude that this makes me pro Neo Nazi? Nazis have a history of not just hating Jews but massacring them by the millions. That is some of the worst evil ever committed. Nazis, Socialists, Communists and Fascists are all evil ideologies and they are all based on the same evil foundation.

What are you talking about with my ignorance of what is a "Semite". In your first attack you accused me of just repeating what you had already said and now you are saying that I am ignorance of what a Semite is? Make up your mind.

If you had already explained who Semites are I never saw it. And having never seen it I did not repeat anything you said.

Plus I never said anything about the Ashkenazi or anyone else.

I really do not know what you are upset about. Is it because I didn't noticed that you supposedly already explained what I said? Well then I apologize for not searching every post you have ever made first. My life does not revolve around you.

Let's just end this thread. It is tiresome and annoying.

Are you ok? You seem angry.

I can see your reading comprehension is at par with your history's.
No one said anything about you being a neo-Nazi other than you. Guilty conscience much? How can someone be that and JIDF?

Nazis killed millions of other people also, including Americans, 'soldier.'
What do you want, it's a European thing, and a Christian one. Much blood has stained those pra/eying hands, more than all others in history combined.

Hope I didn't perturb you too much.

ImgFlip or someone disabled comments on that meme able native Americas telling Europeans to go home.

I saw part of what you said in my notifications but I could not see the entire comment because comments had been disabled. But basically you called me a liar and I wanted to set the record straight. I was born in Columbus, Georgia. When I was very young my family moved west, first to Utah and then when I was 5 to So. Cal. where I grew up. I met my wife while in college and her mother is from Mexico just like I said. I have not lied to you about anything.

However, you are free to believe what ever you want but I never lie.

"ImgFlip or someone disabled comments on that meme able native Americas telling Europeans to go home.

I saw part of what you said in my notifications but I could not see the entire comment because comments had been disabled. But basically you called me a liar and I wanted to set the record straight. I was born in Columbus, Georgia. When I was very young my family moved west, first to Utah and then when I was 5 to So. Cal. where I grew up. I met my wife while in college and her mother is from Mexico just like I said. I have not lied to you about anything.

However, you are free to believe what ever you want but I never lie."

So you didn't grow up in Jim Crow Georgia with daddy's successful business employing Blacks because they worked harder for less money and you da was so swell to hire them?

Are you kidding? All you do is lie, even when you tell the truth.

From that tactic I referred to previously where you agree with the person you're arguing against and post info vouching for their position only to flip around and add "but you leftist democrats so therefore you're wrong" to the other night taking what I said to Octavia about the 'establishment clause' and arguing against what I said even though it was in agreement with your position - you lie so much and so badly it would seem a pathology gone most awry if it wasn't just pass/aggr trolling.
Random quotes from the Bible totally unrelated to slavery which 'prove' "Be humble and obey your master" Christianity was anti slavery... that stuff would be entertaining if it wasn't so lazy and dull.

Put a lil' elbow grease into it, honey, we're - or at least, I'm - here for the laughs.

Jesus loves you!

I was using a leftist tactic. But I guess it went over your head?

they have nothing but leftist tactics on me