The Repackaging of Abortion: Like it Never Even Happened

Liberals are now calling abortions “playing”...because it brings out their inner child. And why do they call it “planned parenthood”? Shouldn’t it be called “unplanned parenthood”?

Planned unparenthhod

They never want to call things by what they really are. Always have to change the words around obscure what’s actually happening.

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Your sick joke doesn't work because there's no child.

It's obviously called Planned parenthood because they provide educational resources, support and facilities to allow people to make informed decisions about how and when to become parents.

You're easily confused, huh?

If they are providing “educational resources, support and facilities to allow people to make informed decisions about how and when to become parents,” why, then, are they murdering so many unborn children each year? You just made the greatest argument to pull their funding.

They aren't murdering anyone, stop talking nonsense.

Pulling funding from a much needed health care facility because you want to be able to control other people's bodies is fascistic and unethical.

If it’s not murder, why I’m I charged with a double homicide if I kill a pregnant woman?

It's not obvious?

The fetus is continuing to develop and will eventually be born.

Directly or indirectly stopping the development of a fetus inside your own body before a certain point is not murder.

Intent matters. Consent matters.

I also don't think the spouses of the terminally ill who consensually take their partner's lives should be charged with murder.

Huh? Are you for real? Quit just making shit up because it sounds good. I draft HIPAA authorizations and durable powers of attorney for healthcare (Advanced Health Care Directives) every single day as part of an overall estate plan.

The advanced health care directives is drafted so a terminally ill/ mentally incapacitated person who can’t make the decision, has his/her wishes for end of life decisions on paper so that their agent can make it in their place. The spouse isn’t making the decision. The sick person makes the decision & the spouse is simply adhering to the directive.

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wake me up when conservatives are willing to PAY for 18 years of QUALITY orphanages for the millions of kids nobody wants that can't be adopted.

So just because there are kids to adopt, means we can tear apart others?

That's hyperbolic bs! The vast majority of abortions happen in the first few weeks before there's any real development. The abortion consists of taking two pills.

Late stage abortions are rare and only carried out in some places if there's a serious medical reason.

That's hyperbolic bs! The vast majority of abortions happen in the first few weeks before there's any real development. The abortion consists of taking two pills.

>>So what? The fetus is quite developed and can feel pain at that stage, this is crazy. Just because the fetus is young does not mean murder is okay. Plus, most abortions are not through pills.

Late stage abortions are rare and only carried out in some places if there's a serious medical reason.

>>They are not rare. They happen all the time. "Serious medical reason." There is never a time when the baby being born WILL kill the mother. If it does, then you can C-section the baby, problem solved.

men should wear condoms or get vasectomies if they are against abortion. most abortions are once in a lifetime events for a woman, not repeats like trump's bankruptcies or bush's failed wars.

I don't care if a woman only does it once, it is wrong, and it is murder.

if animals don't feel anything when we kill and eat them, fetuses don't either.

You just assumed a shit ton. I never said animals don't feel pain...And even if I did, the fetus does.

whatever small pain the fetus feels is over very quickly and it doesn't "know" what's happening to it. not so for an animal.

"a zygot isn't an fetus. a fetus isn't a baby. a baby isn't an adult. an adult isn't god."

>>Your point?

aborting a fetus under 20 weeks is painless for the fetus and is ok to do.

"no it would not be ok for you to do that to me. but it would be ok if i did that to your baby in it's mother's womb if she paid me to do it as an abortionist in a medical setting. right?"

>>Why not? You can't feel pain.

>>No, it would not be okay.

fetus isn't a fully formed human.

"just taking your argument to a logical conclusion. if a fetus isn't a baby but aborting it is still murder, then masturbation is also murder because spilled seed should have fertilized an egg, leaving that egg to die. therefore rape is justified on the premise that it's saving the life of an egg and subsequent baby."

>>I still don't see your point...A fetus is not a baby for a simple reason: Of course, both are human and deserve the same care, but a fetus is a specific stage of the early human's life...A baby is another stage...It is just a term that society uses, but I am sure there is a more scientific name for this stage of life.

>>Aborting a fetus is wrong because it is a horrible and cruel thing, taking one's life without just reason, especially one so week and helpless.

>>Okay, again, you still haven't explained why masturbation is murder, you just explain that it may be similar in terms of morals...Do you see?

"then why did mormon utah mandate 20 weeks for anesthesia when aborting? don't religious people care about the pain of the unborn being "murdered" in their state?"

>>I don't know anything about that, to my memory, but please answer the question...Is it okay or not to stab you with pain killer, so that whatever happens next (which leads to your death) is thought to be okay (since you can't feel it)?

i'm not a fetus. a fetus isn't a fully formed baby. a fetus feels no pain before 20 weeks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/28/utah-bill-anesthesia-abortions-20-weeks

"a lot of people assume it's permanent. a fetus isn't a baby. masturbation is murder too then."

>>Okay. A fetus is not a baby, but is barely different. You still haven't explained that masturbation is murder.

just taking your argument to a logical conclusion. if a fetus isn't a baby but aborting it is still murder, then masturbation is also murder because spilled seed should have fertilized an egg, leaving that egg to die. therefore rape is justified on the premise that it's saving the life of an egg and subsequent baby.

"aborting a fetus under 20 weeks is painless for the fetus and is ok to do."

Incorrect. The fetus can feel pain even as early as 4 weeks...But, even if it couldn't, pain is not the standard for life...AGAIN, if I stabbed you with a pain killer, would it be okay to kill you?

then why did mormon utah mandate 20 weeks for anesthesia when aborting? don't religious people care about the pain of the unborn being "murdered" in their state?

"i'm not a fetus. a fetus isn't a fully formed baby. a fetus feels no pain before 20 weeks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/28/utah-bill-anesthesia-abortions-20-weeks"

>>You still haven't answered the question.

no it would not be ok for you to do that to me. but it would be ok if i did that to your baby in it's mother's womb if she paid me to do it as an abortionist in a medical setting. right?

"whatever small pain the fetus feels is over very quickly and it doesn't "know" what's happening to it."
>>Are you joking or something? You think a fetus cannot feel steel scissors cutting its limbs?

"not so for an animal."
>>How?

an animals brain and pain recognition centers are fully grown. a fetus's are not. https://www.livescience.com/54774-fetal-pain-anesthesia.html

"all vasectomies are reversible. i just put that word in there to assure guys it's true. if conservatives think they can mandate no woman have an abortion, i can't see why they can't mandate vasectomies."

>>Are they though? I feel that my parents would have that surgery if they could...

>>Mandating someone to do something so important with their own body and allowing a woman to do something so important (lethal) with another person's body is a big difference. The fetus is not part of the mother.

a lot of people assume it's permanent. a fetus isn't a baby. masturbation is murder too then.

Great, whatever, let's say you are completely right...Pain does not matter. Here is what I mean: if I ran up to you, and stuck you with morphine (pain killer) and then started to cut your limbs off, wouldn't I be justified in your logic, because the level or the lack of level of pain is gone? No, just because you can't feel anything anymore does not mean I have the right to kill you, same thing with a fetus.

A fetus isn't a fully formed baby. Should people be killed for masturbation or monthly periods? (unfertilized egg shedding) Male masturbation kills sperm which are alive and "half" a baby.

"The bible spoke against spilled seed. Masturbation is murder."

>>WAIT, HOLD UP......So, let's say you are right about the Bible speaking out against "spilled seed." How does that correlate to masturbation being murder?
The Bible spoke about uncleanliness in the camp of the Lord, and periods of time when you could not enter that area, but nothing about sperm being murder.

sperm that does not fertilize an egg is no better than aborting a fetus, according you your logic about being able to kill toddlers because they aren't fully formed adults.

"A toddler can feel pain. A fetus cannot."

>>I wonder why the fetus develops pain receptors, even if it can't recept pain...Huh...
Even if you are right, my same point still stands, lack of pain is no justification for murder.

write a check and pay for 18 years of quality orphanage care for millions of abortion then. or get the church to do it.

have you thought of mandating reversible vasectomies? it would drastically reduce abortion.

"sperm that does not fertilize an egg is no better than aborting a fetus, according you your logic about being able to kill toddlers because they aren't fully formed adults."

>>You don't get it...SPERM IS NOT A BABY, IT IS NOT EVEN A ZYGOTE. Get it now? The sperm is the means to START CREATING A HUMAN. It is the DNA of the father, and the egg is the DNA of the mother...

a zygot isn't an fetus. a fetus isn't a baby. a baby isn't an adult. an adult isn't god.

"A fetus isn't a fully formed baby. Should people be killed for masturbation or monthly periods? (unfertilized egg shedding) Male masturbation kills sperm which are alive and "half" a baby."

>>Thats now how Biology works. Sperm is half the necessary means to START a human life but is not one. Basically, it is not a half-human, or something...It is the means to create one, but not a life at all. And so what if the fetus isn't a fully formed baby? Toddlers aren't as formed as teenagers, and teenagers as adults...Do you see? I can't kill you because you are less developed than me.

A toddler can feel pain. A fetus cannot.

The bible spoke against spilled seed. Masturbation is murder.

"have you thought of mandating reversible vasectomies? it would drastically reduce abortion."

No, and is that even possible?

all vasectomies are reversible. i just put that word in there to assure guys it's true. if conservatives think they can mandate no woman have an abortion, i can't see why they can't mandate vasectomies.

have you ever had an abortion? i recommend minimal seasoning.

"when you eat an abortion, it should be cooked to a minimum to preserve the flavors. you don't want to add too many spices as that will mask the flavor you're trying to capture on your tongue and memory."

>>What the f.

or add spice if you want.

"have you ever had an abortion? i recommend minimal seasoning."

>>No, and I never will. I don't know what you mean by that.

when you eat an abortion, it should be cooked to a minimum to preserve the flavors. you don't want to add too many spices as that will mask the flavor you're trying to capture on your tongue and memory.

"fetus isn't a fully formed human."

>And neither are toddlers, neither are tweens, neither are teenagers, neither is anyone until about the age of 25...So, by your standard that "non fully formed human beings can be killed" anyone under and up to the age of 25 can be murdered...

You seem to have gotten confused about the difference between "fully formed" and "growing".

...Actually, now that I think about it, maybe you're right.
Who am I to claim that your brain has fully formed?

Your Conservative belief would explain a lot of the Conservative comments on Imgflip!

Wait, so someone born with 4 fingers should die? NOPE.

The fetus inside the womb is just as human outside, so is the toddler, and the teen, etc.

The vast majority of abortions happen in the first few weeks, the fetus is not even the size of a raspberry and does not have a developed brain.

People in this country are not forced to use their body as a host against their consent.

"The vast majority of abortions happen in the first few weeks, the fetus is not even the size of a raspberry and does not have a developed brain."

>>That is not true. The vast majority happen when the baby does have a beating heart, and a brain...But either way doesn't matter. It is a human being that needs time to grow, and should not be murdered.

"People in this country are not forced to use their body as a host against their consent."
>> No, most are not...If they have sex, that is complete and full consent, knowing that sex is a human version of reproduction. In the case of rape, there are three parties. One, the mother. Two, the Rapist. And three, the possible baby. We must see which one, and why, to kill. The mother is the victim, she shouldn't die. The rapist, some say should be executed, but he often gets 15+ years in jail. Now, the baby. The most innocent party of all. Why should we as a society, punish the child for the crimes of its father?

go kill them if you like. nobody's stopping you.

So you admit it then...It is okay to kill other human beings if you want to...

only the unborn.

"only the unborn."

>>NOPE, NOPE, I GOTCHU.
I clearly stated that if it is okay to kill a human being in the womb, as long as it has a pain killer in it is not right, nor is doing the same to a toddler, teen, or adult...Because every party (age group) can't feel the pain...You said: "go kill them if you like. nobody's stopping you."
Then, you stated: "only the unborn." Those to statements contradict themselves. Your logic is unsound.

kill whoever you want.

"kill whoever you want."

Oh, so it is okay to kill people now? Guess so! Let's start with you!

it is by your logic, my logic says it's only ok to kill the unborn. but you do you.

"it is by your logic, my logic says it's only ok to kill the unborn. but you do you."

Nahh, it's not my logic, because I make a point, and you seem to accept it, then when I bring your logic to its highest conclusion, you don't like that and say stuff like this...You are not connected to the reality of your statements.

One's an animal, one's a human life. Don't you see the problem with that?

what happens if superior beings come here and decide we're food cause of our attitudes toward other life forms?

also, there's more and more evidence showing we eat WAY too much meat that can be replaced with ever tastier vegan tech protein (not soy).

Times are changing. I eat meat, but not nearly as much as many people and I try to cut back as much as possible and change to alternatives.

egg whites for example doesn't kill the bird but is great protein for body fat control. many beans can replace meat and can be grown at home even indoors for less than buying.

growing a vertical protein garden is easy and just smart for anybody on a budget. and it reduces dependence on stores/transportation and frees up land/food for other uses/people.

Burgers justify killing babies?

Nobody is killing babies.

Do some research.

what are they doing then?

Aborting fetuses.

Anyone committing infanticide would be imprisoned.

Murder is murder, quit trying to defend it. They're humans and they're being murdered. What part of that doesn't make sense?

If they're a human, yes it is. If they're a human, it is their own body.

Their body is completely dependent on someone else's body, they also don't have a developed brain and can't make decisions.

The decision goes to the person whose body the fetus is in, not the fetus.
The decision does not go to you.

That's still a human in case you weren't aware.

Really? You sure about that?

It's definitely not an alien?

Where's a right-wing/conspiracy theorist venn diagram when you need one?

And you're ok with killing millions of humans?

Stopping the development of a fetus is not equivalent to gunning someone down in the street.

The fetus is inside someone's body, people get autonomy over their own bodies and what happens inside them.

Why aren't you promoting vasectomies to prevent unwanted pregnancies?

Yeah, aren't you?

You believe in aliens?

I don't see what that has to do with this, run out of relevant things to say?

You're the idiot that felt the need to point out that the fetus is human.

What the hell else would it be?

You've clearly run out of relevant things to say, Captain Obvious.

Then what would you call abortion?

This is an 8 week old fetus, it's the size of a raspberry. The vast majority of abortions are carried out before this point.

It's a false equivalence to say that preventing the fetus from developing further is the same as murdering a baby that's been born.

no, but the hypocrisy towards animal life just because we're at the top of the food chain should be examined. might makes right might not be right.

bottom line, when conservatives are willing to pay for 18 years of quality orphanage services for the millions of aborted fetuses that can't get adopted, let's talk about banning abortion.

Then do that, it's not ok to make a child just to kill it

so say some kid gets raped and impregnated, they have to go thru the traumatizing event of child birth at a extremely young age, yet your saying that its okay for said child to suffer

conservatives *aren't* doing that.

maybe those women shouldn't get pregnant?

true, some could have. other have birth defects and other conditions. and those men should have worn a condom or gotten a vasectomy (reversible).

Cool

Who do you think adopts the kids already?

And like I said, you shouldn't go out getting pregnant just to kill the kid

why are so many kids in foster care?

Cause people aren't responsible with having kids

then men should have vasectomies.

Aren't doing what, impregnating people or getting impregnated and then killing the kid?

aren't willing to pay for 18 years of quality orphanages.