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It couldn't have anything to do with a bunch of angry white people coming from a rally to stop a constitutional process, could it?
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Nope, since it wasn't a constitutional process.
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A whole bunch of constitution scholars would disagree. But of course you know best with that law degree from cracker jack.
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A whole bunch agree too.
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How do you figure?
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Since the state legislatures tried to recall and recertify in several of the swing states, pence should not have read them off for those states. Also many states violated the constitution when they changed how the voting happens without their legislatures being involved.
Clearly wasn't a constitutional win.
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Going to remember that you seem genuinely interested in debating the finer points without hostility, so I'll keep my irons down.

So, let's look at what states tried to recall their electors. Where does it state that this was a constitutional violation? Which states had done this?

Looking at general provisions under the US Constitution, I found this interpretation of the law from constitutioncenter.org:

"One unusual feature of the Elections Clause is that it does not confer the power to regulate congressional elections on states as a whole, but rather the “Legislature” of each state. The Supreme Court has construed the term “Legislature” extremely broadly to include any entity or procedure that a state’s constitution permits to exercise lawmaking power. Thus, laws regulating congressional elections may be enacted not only by a state’s actual legislature, but also directly by a state’s voters through the initiative process or public referendum, in states that allow such procedures.

The Court also has held that a legislature may delegate its authority under the Elections Clause to other entities or officials. A few states have chosen to transfer power to draw congressional district lines from their respective legislatures to non-partisan or bipartisan “independent redistricting commissions.” These states believe that such commissions can make the electoral process more fair by preventing voters from being divided into congressional districts in ways that unduly protect existing officeholders (“gerrymandering”)."

It appears to me, from the verbiage of this passage, that states do not inherently require the formal legislative body to determine how voting is accomplished.
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Non-legislative bodies cannot change it. It can be delegated, but people that are not appointed by the legislatures cannot make changes. That's still clear even after reading the 'opinion' of that judge you quoted.
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So, are you going to mention the states you were talking about? Do you have any sources to post to back what you're saying?
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What was the ratification of the electoral college then? You seem to have a law degree from Sam's Law School and Bail Bonds. You pop up all over here with one sentence zingers that never are on topic and always diversionary.
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You can read the law and understand it without having to spend 7 years in law school. See my comments above where I explain it.
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Fake news again. The swing state legislatures said Trump won, but it was too late, after the elector votes were counted.
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Sounds like logic to me.
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It will be a sad day for repubs if the electoral college ever gets nixed.
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Yup. I would agree with you, but voter fraud Has been found in every election for the past few elections. Check your sources. The News (CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Washington Post, etc) doesn't count. Watch real live, unedited, whole videos from the action with an open mind and you will learn a lot. Not just about voter fraud, but everything.

Have A Nice Day
-Roger Doofenshmirtz
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"Watch real live, unedited, whole videos from the action"

No idea what ^that exactly means. Trump's own cabinet said that fraud was essentially a nothing burger and they said it despite obviously being under pressure to say the opposite.
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Are you saying you would rather listeen to someone else's opinion than form your own?
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Those are not necessarily either/or concepts but you seem to be structuring the question as if they were. But basically no that's not what I'm saying.

For example at least one person here was of the opinion that millions of dead people voted this November. I listened to their opinion, did some research, and found zero evidence supporting that.. I didn't think I would, and their opinion on the matter didn't change mine.
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That's forming your own opinion. Good.
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You must not have done good research because the swing state legislatures certified that millions of dead people voted.
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The swing state legislatures certified that there were mountains of fraud and tried to recertify their electors, but it was too late.
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That's right. Old Joe was chosen by the electoral college. The funny thing is that folks said that election was rigged when Trump won last time
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21,000 troops and growing. Plus they are shutting down bridges. USA, USA, USA
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Do you seriously believe that presidents have to literally be unanimously elected by exactly 100% of the populace to be legitimate? I've never seen a stupider meme, and that's saying a lot given the state of the politics stream.
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PPE but he must be elected by real people not fake or multiple ballot voters
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Keep coping
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“Never underestimate Joe’s ability to screw things up.” We will be waiting.
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I mean, as a leftist, I won't be surprised if he does, but hopefully he doesn't.
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We will be waiting
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Fake is the news you buy whole hog. Step out of fantasyland for one moment and realize the steal was a lie. #WeStoppedTheSteal Jan. 6th was a marvelous victory of Democracy. Certified U.S.A. strong in the face of fascist crybabies.
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Fake is what the election was. Well that and your love of country is fake as well. Your probably a Canadian anyway. Hahah there was no serious attempt on Jan 6th you’re delusional. Play it up so you can use your fear to try and silence the opposition. The guy in the Viking helmet was no real threat of overthrowing the US government. Just more shrieking harpy cries of chicken littles like you.
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So true
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You get confused easily don’t you. Poor thing. The protests were not a serious threat to the US government. More evidence is already coming out. Lets see why the DC mayor refused the police request for troops 3 times prior to the event Even though the fbi warned of possible bad actors.
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I am a White, Christian, Straight, Male, Trump Supporter. I'm not afraid to speak my mind. I admit that there were Trump Supporting Rioters. Trump already called them a disgrace to America. I Second that. But I also know that there was antifa pretending to be Trump Supporters. There is video evidence of Trump Supporters staying outside the captol grabbing and stopping the "Trump Supporters" and saying stuff like "Stop Antifa, Your Not Fooling Anybody". But clearly they fooled half America. Sad😪.

Have a Nice Day!
-Roger Doofenshmirtz
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MAGAts are full of fear. That's why they support an autocrat to save them from themselves. Please, Canadians are nice!
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Haha the Democratic party of the Oligarchs will not work in your favor. Republicans only fear you idiots will ruin the country because it’s like giving a child a loaded gun and hoping no one gets shot.
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1. We don't cry when we dont get our way. Thats your job. I'll try to find a link for you. We cry in battle fighting for our country. You cry of emotion.

2. And no, we're not fascist. Fascism is where the government tells people what they have to believe and what their job is. No religious freedom, no freedom of speech(Censorship). Now who does that sound like?

3. How do you explain over 20,000 Military Ballots (all saying Trump) in the mail? And why would the people who counted board up the windows?

4. I don't watch the news. I find all the footage and pictures I can and make up my own mind. I don't let others do it for me? Because how can you trust anyone on the news? You Can't

5. If I watch the news, I watch both sides.

Have a Nice Day and don't Listen to others opinions, gain your own through good reasoning, and Common Sense
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-Roger Doofenshmirtz
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1. That's a whole lot of words to say that you cry when you don't get your way.

2. That definition is closer to that of authoritarianism, not fascism.

3. Bro these have been debunked months ago. Keep up with the times.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/05/facebook-posts/no-thousands-military-ballots-were-not-found-trash/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-videos-crowd-locked-out-detroit-center-lack-context/6195038002/

4. I guarantee you the sources you use are infinitely less reliable than mainstream media.

5. That's cap
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Didn't I say the news is unreliable. And, according to the Webster Dictionary

"Definition of fascism
1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

Now who does that sound like?
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Trump
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So your supporting our troops and officers? Classic Flip Flop Commie.😁
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Fascism is essentially socialism/communism, but more honest. Its totalitarian control by the government of the means of production. Same thing China does, but without the lies.
What happens in China when a group of workers decide to change how they work? They get thrown in work camps and are replaced by more compliant subjects.
Fascism is almost as far left as socialism and communism.
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WRONG!
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Care to prove it? No, didn't think so. It is a correct breakdown.
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