It's A Joke

I see people, but I think you mean snowflakes.

I was trying to be polite!

The great thing is the people who want expression of any type banned can be dismissed as anti-freedom and distinctly un-American.

And we wonder by everyone is upright, high strung & and going postal?

I’m not mad that our senses of humor have evolved since the Stone Age

Well, some of ours

Says the guy who had to set up his own little room where he deletes comments for no reason other than disagreement. There’s a joke 😂😂😂😝

Hmm, looks like you don’t moderate any streams of your own so I guess you’ll just have to take me at my word when I say it’s a stream mod’s prerogative to create the kinds of streams they want on ImgFlip and they have no obligation to platform anyone else’s content particularly when poorly-conceived, abusive, or in bad faith

But anywho, back on-topic

This cartoon strike you as a funny or nah

Haha yup I don’t need a special room to play tyrant in. As far as the cartoon didn’t strike me as anything but boring.

I guess the old people like it. You guys probably remember when women got the vote.

Yeah, not sure why cartoons that are 100 years old making fun of women's struggle to get the right to vote is all of a sudden funny to the libs.

Do they want to go back to the way it was?

Why do liberals bring up anti-suffragette cartoons from 100 years ago?

Better question: why do alt-righties bring up anti-suffragette cartoons from 100 years ago?

Weren't you the one who brought it up first??

Yes he was, but that’s Commiekaze he seeds the conversation so he can take it in a different direction to avoid the subject.

In my experience he doesn't devolve to insults and utilizes logical arguments to defend his views, and I can't really ask more than that.

He is a petty tyrant and if he could he would delete any comment you made that scores a point as he does in the stream he moderates.

And if that were true I would have deleted your dumbass comment, wouldn't I? But the wonderful thing about freedom of speech is that there's nothing that says you have to agree with what the other guy says. Sure, I could do that, but it's SO much more fun to sit back and watch you make a total and complete asshole out of yourself.

Now do us all a favor - f**k off and die.

Don’t post deletion-bait (abusive, off-topic, harassing, content-free, fact-free or counterfactual nonsense), don’t get deleted

It’s pretty simple

PoliticsTOO isn’t politics; you won’t get away with as much

Indeed, I brought it into the context of the conversation about political humor. You might ask why I chose to do so

A better question would be why modern-day anti-feminists riff on 100+ year-old tropes

But if you don’t want to ponder either of those, and since you’re demonstrably interested in freedom and the American way

Does this kind of a cartoon have any legitimate place in the marketplace of ideas?

Did it ever?

Is the cartoon wrong and offensive? Yes, it obviously is. Do I find it funny? No. "Offensive" humor has to be done right in order for everyone to understand that it's a joke (Blazing Saddles is my example; it's so obviously satirical that nobody should be offended by it).

However, I think the divide between opposing a cartoon and saying it shouldn't be seen is impossibly large. If we truly believe in freedom then we can't suppress ANY individual expression. We uphold the right of people to burn flags even though doing so directly degrades the sacrifice of all Americans who have died for it.

To clarify: I think it's wrong to suppress speech even if we disagree with it.

Hear!hear!

A better argument would be... will your jokes still be offensive in 100 years like the anti-suffragette jokes or will they be more like Blazing Saddles be less offensive because, it's so obviously satirical that nobody should be offended by it?

It's not about whether or not a joke should be removed. It's about whether or not the joke will age well. Something that should be considered in political cartoons unless the intent is to not leave a lasting impact.

I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't think that's really an argument. Some people will obviously be hurt by Blazing Saddles today, whereas others today genuinely don't care (because they're above such nonsense as judging people by skin color or gender). Perception is never a homogenous entity, and that fractures even more when you take transitioning-over-time cultural norms into account.

I think the thing about Blazing Saddles is it’s so wildly absurd that it’s not difficult to read the actual target of its humor as the racism, bigotry, etc. that is hidden beneath old-fashioned American Westerns and other such shows. By blowing up bigotry, it exposes it. I see a lot of Quentin Tarantino’s work the same way.

This is what makes it “well-done” and humor that was on-point for its time and still on-point today.

And you're exactly right, but there are people who can't stand even such blatant sarcasm.

Obviously the posters were intended to offend (and succeeded), and as you noted they're not equivalent in their intent to Brooks' or Tarantino's works.

Total digression: They'd probably be a big hit on the dark humor stream.

Hahaha it irks you that you can’t control the delete button here doesn’t it. 😂😂😂

If that were true I would have deleted your comment, don't you think? So the joke's on you, asshole.

You can’t delete unless your a moderator in politics doofus.

Noice

funny story. i posted this image that i got off of a twitter account and offended almost everyone
imgflip.com/i/4eunld

Do you not believe the official account then?

of course i don't believe this image. it was posted from a twitter compilation account that showcases the worst of conspiracy-theory believers, and i have literally no idea what the meme was implying

Aight, I just wanted to be sure. I sincerely dislike those who are so deluded they think it was an "inside job" or whatever.

yeah, i don't believe conspiracy theories. i believe facts. the real deal is that 9/11 wasn't done with airplanes. it was done with snowballs

That's a conspiracy theory bro. It was obviously termites that the CIA mind controlled into literally eating the foundations away, and what everyone thinks was a 'plane' was a holographic projection.

Facts, bro.

actually the plane was a government-owned bird that looked like a plane due to distance perception

Tactical High-Explosive Pigeon