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2 ups, 4y,
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18 other states have filed amicus briefs to join with Texas.
3 ups, 4y,
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Its 22 now
0 ups, 4y,
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You mean the 22 states OPPOSING the Texas lawsuit?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/12/10/nation/mass-joins-22-other-states-territories-court-filing-against-texas-lawsuit-seeking-overturn-election/
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2 ups, 4y,
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Nice cherry pick there,
0 ups, 4y,
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What you mean? He's conflating two opposite things as one. That's a pretty big error on his part.
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2 ups, 4y,
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I mean it's 22 states in total against and with Texas.
1 up, 4y,
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The case got thrown out anyway lmaao
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0 ups, 4y
Yeah true.
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0 ups, 4y
Nevermind.
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2 ups, 4y,
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Sedition.

Sad watching you supporters of the president who have been gaslighted into believing that there has been a multi-state conspiracy to steal the election.
1 up, 4y,
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Suing four states for using Covid to ignore Election laws (which is unconstitutional) is not Sedition. Also, there is plenty of evidence of Voter Fraud.
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1 up, 4y,
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Read the court transcripts. There is no evidence of voter fraud and Trump lawyers haven't presented any to the courts because they fear being disbarred for lying- introducing debunked conspiracy theories and propaganda.

Also...

Texas has zero legal standing to challenge how other states conduct their elections. Elections -- including ones for federal offices -- are solely the purview of individual states. States set the hour that their polling places will be open. They decide whether or not a voter is required to show a form of legal identification in order to cast the ballot. They decide on what dates their primaries will be held. And yes, they get to decide -- as many states did in the face of the Covid-19 pandemic -- whether or not to expand mail-in balloting. It's also worth noting here that the Texas lawsuit runs directly counter to the long-held Republican belief that states, not the federal government, should have broad jurisdiction over how they conduct their own affairs.

Why should the "great state as Texas" have a say so on how other states administer their elections? Imagine if some other state told Texas how to conduct their state of affairs? They'd tell them to f*** off. Texas certified THEIR electors. So it is only fraud if Biden wins? But if Trump wins the votes are legal??

There is absolutely no legal or constitutional justification that gives the state of Texas standing to sue other states over the manner in which those states enforce (or refrain from enforcing) their laws. If Texas’s theory is right, then every state now has standing to sue every other state over the latter’s administration of its own laws in connection with its own citizens if it can articulate some collateral consequence that may affect the allegedly injured state in some way.

It's simple. Trump is unhappy he lost and has no qualms cheating, lying and stealing. The worst part is he is victim blaming, scapegoating the victims. Scapegoating is central to fascism.

I have a hard time believing the “Don’t Mess with Texas” State wants to live in the kinda of world you propose to create.
0 ups, 4y,
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State law? If an unconstitutional change in the rules effects the Presidential Election, then Texas has every right to sue because a Federal Election effects them. Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin changed their laws without the consent of the state legislature, which violates both their state constitutions and the Election Clause of the US Constitution, therefore Texas and the states that have joined them have legal standing against those four states. Fascism? Last time I checked, the Democrats are the ones who want to send Americans to "Reeducation Camps" and attacking people while dressed in black, not Trump supporters. Also, the claim that there is no Election Fraud is fake news. The Trump team presented witnesses and the video of three women pulling out suitcases full of illegal ballots from under a table and counting them after telling everyone to go home, yet the people who heard the testimony and saw the video call the witnesses "liars" and falsely claimed that the video was "debooked". Conspiracy theories and propaganda? You're a member of a party that spent four years screaming "Russia! Russia! Russia!", so you stop pretending you have a leg to stand on.
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0 ups, 4y,
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The SCOTUS just denied Trump's Texas lawsuit.

They REFUSED to even HEAR the case.

That includes ALL of Trump's SCOTUS appointees. That means know of them wanted to hear it.

Trump's own judges are in on the fix?

It's over. Cue the fat lady...Trump's our bitch and he's fat. So cue him.
0 ups, 4y,
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The Supreme Court acted like cowards.
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0 ups, 4y,
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Trump picked the judges that denied his petition (Kavanaugh, Goruch, Barrett) so what does that say about Trump...?
0 ups, 4y,
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Nothing. It only says that they're spineless cowards who are a disgrace to the Judicial Branch.
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0 ups, 4y
So, again, Trump has only himself to blame...so we should only blame Trump...?
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0 ups, 4y,
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So....it’s Trump’s fault for choosing them, yes....? Which makes his loss in the SCOTUS....Trump’s fault?
0 ups, 4y
Trump picked them because he thought they were solid. That they would protect our Constitution. Instead, the only Justices who stood up for the Constitution were Clarence Thompson and Alito (who I assume would be the Judas).
0 ups, 4y
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1 up, 4y,
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well that aged well, didn't it?
0 ups, 4y,
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Unlike you, I had faith in the oathbreaking cowards in the Superme Court. At least Clarence Thompson and Alito (who I assumed was the Judas" stood by the Constitution.
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What are you talking about? It was unanimous on the merits...as in NONE of the judges thought the seditious Texas case had any. Alito and Thomas could’ve properly dissented. They did so over a recent dismal as recent as this year.

TX asked for relief including expedited hearing. If Alito & Thomas would've denied injunction & expedited hearing, that's functionally dismissal, because case would quickly become moot. Plus it's key for public consumption that they avoided the D word, dissent.

Read it as 9-0.

All they said is/was something those two always say in the cases involving original jurisdiction, that those types of cases should “always be allowed to be filed” regardless of the merits, like the recent PA case that eventually was dismissed after days of internal debate. Alito and Thomas made it a point to say out loud that even had the case been taken they believed “no remedy should be allowed”. Rudy was livid at that part, as was Trump. What’s the point of taking a case if you say in advance you won’t rule in favor of it? Just to hear it??? Alito and Thomas also made it a point to say to MAGA-cultists like you that this dismissal shouldn’t be read as their feelings about the merit. Yet, by refusing to do a dissent like they did with a similar case months ago, you can safely infer that they don’t believe the case had merits since they could’ve easily disagreed but didn’t.

Again, as expected, Justices Alito and Thomas, who had previously stated that the Court does not have discretion to turn down the cases, would have granted the motion to file the complaint but not granted other relief and expressing that this wasn’t to be read as support for the merits of the case.

What’s important here: The court did say that Texas lacked standing because a state has no “judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.” This will turn out to be important in shutting down other attempts like this for one state to sue another. So if you are hoping then that Florida or Wyoming can jump in and do this again, then forget about it: the Judges could dismissed this case like the PA one and have said nothing. But in the TX case they went out of their way to say something because they don’t want more cases like this.

It’s over.
0 ups, 4y,
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With the exception of Clarence and Alito, the Supreme Court is a bunch of oathbreaking cowards. Who cares if they didn't want more cases? If a state changes the rules in a manner that violates the Constitution and makes it easier for a party to rig a federal election, then the other states have every right to pursue legal action. All the Supreme Court has done is tell America "Oh, you want us to do our job? F**k you. Our lives are more important than the Constitution. Now bend over" because they don't have the spine to tell four states that a pandemic is not an excuse to make changes without going through the State Legislature. They should be disrobed and charged with dereliction of duty for caving into Leftist intimidation instead of protecting Election Integrity.
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Clarence and Alito also refused to dissent and went as far as to say the case deserved “no remedy”. They agreed the case had no merit, all they wanted was for the case to be filed BEFORE it was dismissed, like the PA case. That doesn’t mean they wanted to hear it.

Not sure why you think they were not part of the 9-0 decision.

And remember....Trump appointed 3 of those judges. So he only has himself to blame. Blame Trump
0 ups, 4y,
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Nope. Those Justices swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and they chose to break their oaths to save their own skins. The fault for the Texas Lawsuit being thrown out is entirely on them. Also, I highly doubt that Clarence Thompson and Alito actually believe that the case had no merit.
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0 ups, 4y,
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You really are ignorant. By Alito and Thomas not only refusing to dissent but stay silent with the other justices, that’s their way of saying the case has no merit. It’s worse than that actually. They are saying “not only does the case have no merit...but it’s not worth our time, so we are tuning it out and ignoring you whiners for now on”.

Both Alito and Thomas went on record in the dismissal to say that they didn’t believe the case deserved “any remedy”. As in, DONT overturn the election. That’s what they said in legalize.

If the case had merit they would’ve said so in the form of a dissent. They did so in a similar case involving original jurisdiction just this year.

P.S. Nope to what? Lol

That’s how they ruled. You may not agree with it. But that’s what they said.

You are delusional
0 ups, 4y,
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I am calling it as I see it and what I see are a bunch of spineless cowards who threw America under the bus to save their own skin. Thomas and Alito refusing to dissent and being silent screams "we can't win this one" and them saying that the case did not deserve any remedy is just damage control.
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To be clear, so you don't confuse anyone more than you have...

FACT- Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas said in a statement that they would have allowed Texas to file the case on procedural grounds, BUT (a huge Kim kardashian one) they would NOT have granted any other relief -- making it CRYSTAL clear that they, too, rejected the substance of Texas' arguments.
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0 ups, 4y,
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Maybe. I would never sing their praises. But that to me sounds like "spineless cowards". I expect real men to stand by their principles and fall on the sword. Those two had no problems dissenting over case of less importance.

FYI- You are also doing damage control. Jus saying.
0 ups, 4y,
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Thomas and Alito are men who know when to pick their battles and they decided to save their strength. Also, damage control? I am only calling it as I see it.
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0 ups, 4y
What battles? If there is any battle to pick, it would've been this one. A fiery dissent could've given direction to Trump for where to take this battle next.

Waving the white flag is more like it. And joining with the other Justices who waved the white flag only serves to legitimize a Biden win.

You are talking out of your ass.
0 ups, 4y,
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your fault. looking up to people like they're jesus is a big mistake. no one is perfect
0 ups, 4y,
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When you swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, you are expected to uphold the Constitution. Refusing to do so out of fear of what might happen to you or your loved ones is dereliction of duty and there is a special place in Hell for those who break their oaths.
0 ups, 4y
yeahh-- no. they didn't break their oath lol.
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